here's a little of what the un chief antonio guterres had to say as he arrived in delhi. we today resemble a rather dysfunctional family, we today resemble a rather dysfunctionalfamily, tensions we today resemble a rather dysfunctional family, tensions are blaring and trust is eroding. which together raises the spectre of confrontation. this fracturing world would be deeply concerning in the best of times but in our times it spells catastrophe. that best of times but in our times it spells catastrophe.— best of times but in our times it spells catastrophe. that was the background _ spells catastrophe. that was the background to _ spells catastrophe. that was the background to the _ spells catastrophe. that was the background to the summit. - spells catastrophe. that was the background to the summit. i - spells catastrophe. that was the i background to the summit. i spoke spells catastrophe. that was the - background to the summit. i spoke to john bolton, former national security adviser and i asked him if it could be the last hope for multilateral listen. i’zfe it could be the last hope for multilateral listen. �* , ., , multilateral listen. i've been to my share of t20 _ multilateral listen. i've been to my share of t20 meetings _ multilateral listen. i've been to my share of t20 meetings and - multilateral listen. i've been to my share of t20 meetings and i - multilateral listen. i've been to my share of t20 meetings and i do - multilateral listen. i've been to myi share of t20 meetings and i do not know— share of t20 meetings and i do not know what— share of t20 meetings and i do not know what function they perform. the most important product that emerges is the _ most important product that emerges is the bilateral meetings that president biden has had with the indian _ president biden has had with the indian prime minister narendra modi and others _ indian prime minister narendra modi and others will have bilateral meetings, you could do that at the opening _ meetings, you could do that at the opening of— meetings, you could do that at the opening of the un general assembly in new_ opening of the un general assembly in new york two weeks from now so i don't _ in new york two weeks from now so i don't expect — in new york two weeks from now so i don't expect much from the conference and i think putting hopes in groups— conference and i think putting hopes in groups like the g20 to accomplish much _ in groups like the g20 to accomplish much is _ in groups like the g20 to accomplish much is misplaced. but in groups like the 620 to accomplish much is misplaced.— much is misplaced. but isn't there some sort of _ much is misplaced. but isn't there some sort of symbolic _ much is misplaced. but isn't there some sort of symbolic relevance, | much is misplaced. but isn't there i some sort of symbolic relevance, for instance, the fact that the russian president and the leader of china are not at this meeting, is that of any concern at all? it are not at this meeting, is that of any concern at all?— are not at this meeting, is that of any concern at all? it should be of concern to — any concern at all? it should be of concern to russia _ any concern at all? it should be of concern to russia and _ any concern at all? it should be of concern to russia and china. - concern to russia and china. vladimir— concern to russia and china. vladimir putin probably decided not to come. _ vladimir putin probably decided not to come. i— vladimir putin probably decided not to come, i don't think he has come for the _ to come, idon't think he has come for the last— to come, i don't think he has come for the last two and may be more g20 meetings _ for the last two and may be more g20 meetings. 2020 was virtual so nobody came and _ meetings. 2020 was virtual so nobody came and he _ meetings. 2020 was virtual so nobody came and he spoke and so did xi firming— came and he spoke and so did xi jinping but — came and he spoke and so did xi jinping but i think vladimir putin has missed several in a row, he probably— has missed several in a row, he probably does not want to embarrass himself— probably does not want to embarrass himself or— probably does not want to embarrass himself or the indian government by having _ himself or the indian government by having protests of people he think he ought — having protests of people he think he ought to be arrested. like the chinese — he ought to be arrested. like the chinese premier did not appear, i cannot— chinese premier did not appear, i cannot answer. it seems to me to be from _ cannot answer. it seems to me to be from his— cannot answer. it seems to me to be from his perspective a political mistake — from his perspective a political mistake to snub the indians. but whatever— mistake to snub the indians. but whatever their reasons, he is not there _ whatever their reasons, he is not there but— whatever their reasons, he is not there but it's a catch 22 here. if you didn't — there but it's a catch 22 here. if you didn't have g20 meetings nobody would _ you didn't have g20 meetings nobody would he _ you didn't have g20 meetings nobody would be snubbed if they did not appean — would be snubbed if they did not appean |— would be snubbed if they did not a- ear. ~ ., i. ., would be snubbed if they did not auear. ~ ., ., ., ., , appear. i know you have already exoressed _ appear. i know you have already exoressed a _ appear. i know you have already expressed a pretty _ appear. i know you have already expressed a pretty dim - appear. i know you have already expressed a pretty dim view - appear. i know you have already expressed a pretty dim view of i appear. i know you have already - expressed a pretty dim view of what the 620 expressed a pretty dim view of what the g20 achieves but how different might the summit look to previous 620 might the summit look to previous g20 meetings? india is taking this very seriously, they have also said they have consulted much more widely than any other t20 convener has in the past with countries in the global south, country usually at the periphery of these discussions? i periphery of these discussions? i think from india 's perspective it provides— think from india 's perspective it provides an opportunity to show a larger— provides an opportunity to show a larger role — provides an opportunity to show a larger role on the global stage which — larger role on the global stage which given the size of their economy— which given the size of their economy and the population, something that i think it's very much — something that i think it's very much in — something that i think it's very much in their interest to do. and they— much in their interest to do. and they are — much in their interest to do. and they are spreading that word around they are spreading that word around the world _ they are spreading that word around the world and i am sure it fits well into their— the world and i am sure it fits well into their diplomacy and i perfectly understand why they would do it and if we were _ understand why they would do it and if we were in their shoes we would probably— if we were in their shoes we would probably do the same thing but in terms _ probably do the same thing but in terms of— probably do the same thing but in terms of what will be decided, there is nothing _ terms of what will be decided, there is nothing that indicates t20 even with expanded guests and there are a lot guest— with expanded guests and there are a lot guest countries in the g20, this isjust_ lot guest countries in the g20, this isjust a _ lot guest countries in the g20, this isjust a smaller version of lot guest countries in the g20, this is just a smaller version of the united — is just a smaller version of the united nations. isjust a smaller version of the united nations.— isjust a smaller version of the united nations. , , , . united nations. even less effective. i was united nations. even less effective. i was speaking _ united nations. even less effective. i was speaking to — united nations. even less effective. i was speaking to former _ united nations. even less effective. i was speaking to former us - united nations. even less effective. l i was speaking to former us national security adviserjohn bolton. my colleague christian fraser sat down with european council president charles michel ahead of the summit, and asked him whether progress can be made, despite the absence of the chinese and russian presidents. cani can i take you back to the summit in bali last year, there was an awful tussle over the language in the final communique and i imagine what landed in the communique in the end was seen as a success but does that tell us something about what we are likely to get this year? it tell us something about what we are likely to get this year?— likely to get this year? it will be difficult to form _ likely to get this year? it will be difficult to form a _ likely to get this year? it will be difficult to form a communique | difficult to form a communique especially with the situation in ukraine and you have described it in bali, we had a successful meeting and outcome and today we have mixed feelings. 0n the one hand we see it from some delegations, it is difficult to follow the same language and approve the same language and approve the same language we used in bali but on the other hand we observe for instance in saudi arabia, an important meeting initiated by ukraine with the support of saudi arabia, more than a0 delegations present, china was present, to discuss the peace formula proposed by president zelensky which is based on the un charter and the sovereignty of ukraine. is charter and the sovereignty of ukraine. , , :: , charter and the sovereignty of ukraine. , , i: , ., ukraine. is the 620 still relevant because is _ ukraine. is the 620 still relevant because is not _ ukraine. is the 620 still relevant because is not here, _ ukraine. is the 620 still relevant because is not here, nations - ukraine. is the 620 still relevant because is not here, nations dol ukraine. is the 620 still relevant i because is not here, nations do not support the language on ukraine and ijust wonder if support the language on ukraine and i just wonder if the ukraine support the language on ukraine and ijust wonder if the ukraine row over at the language is at the very fundamental of the split and if it splits the sites it holds back progress in other areas? the splits the sites it holds back progress in other areas? the 620 is a very effective _ progress in other areas? the 620 is a very effective format _ progress in other areas? the 620 is a very effective format to _ progress in other areas? the 620 is a very effective format to allow - a very effective format to allow these changes. i had the occasion some months ago to meet the chinese prime minister in paris and it means this is the occasion to discuss the international best order to see what we can do to make the world a fairer place for everyone and this is the debate leading to the reforms of the multilateral development bank, a very important institution for the future, i am absolutely convinced and climate change and the eu side. we have decided to play a leading role because we are convinced you can observe the situation today everywhere across the world, we can see the concrete and dramatic consequences of climate change. ianthem consequences of climate change. when it comes to climate _ consequences of climate change. when it comes to climate you _ consequences of climate change. when it comes to climate you will _ consequences of climate change. when it comes to climate you will be aware that the environment ministers met in chennai injuly and they came away with very little consensus, not even about peak of emissions by 2025 so do you think the target, the goal of 1.5 celsius is now practically unachievable? i of1.5 celsius is now practically unachievable?— of 1.5 celsius is now practically unachievable? ~ unachievable? i disagree. ithink we all understand _ unachievable? i disagree. ithink we all understand that _ unachievable? i disagree. ithink we all understand that it _ unachievable? i disagree. ithink we all understand that it is _ unachievable? i disagree. ithink we all understand that it is very - all understand that it is very important to be ambitious and to put in place the measures needed but what i feel this lack of trust because of so called western part of the world and so—called global south and here i think you explained a very important role. why? for many years we delivered on our promises and i think it is important also the other countries show that they are ready to deliver on their promises. some quick points. you said you talk to anyone at the summits and you try and convince people but are you happy at a summit like this to sit down with the crown prince of saudi arabia? taste down with the crown prince of saudi arabia? ~ ., arabia? we have political links with saudi arabia _ arabia? we have political links with saudi arabia and _ arabia? we have political links with saudi arabia and saudi _ arabia? we have political links with saudi arabia and saudi arabia - arabia? we have political links with saudi arabia and saudi arabia is - arabia? we have political links with saudi arabia and saudi arabia is a l saudi arabia and saudi arabia is a member of the g20. saudi arabia and saudi arabia is a member of the 620. it does not mean that we do not have our own principles and vision and we know what the european position is but what the european position is but what matters in my opinion is this working very hard for a motor collar world and i feel there working very hard for a motor collar world and ifeel there is working very hard for a motor collar world and i feel there is a threat for the future, for the next generation and there is the risk to face a situation of a bipolar approach. i think the eu has a role to play because the world will be more stable, more predictable, with a multipolar approach. the more stable, more predictable, with a multipolar approach.— a multipolar approach. the same is true with no _ a multipolar approach. the same is true with no render— a multipolar approach. the same is true with no render it _ a multipolar approach. the same is true with no render it moody, - true with no render it moody, someone you will speak to this weekend. would you talk to him about your concerns about press freedom, human rights in india? is that a conversation you would have? ihdia conversation you would have? india is a democracy _ conversation you would have? india is a democracy and _ conversation you would have? india is a democracy and the _ conversation you would have? i�*ic 5. is a democracy and the eu and india are very large democracies and the human rights, the democratic principles are systematically part of the relationship we have with our partners all across the world. before i let you go breaking news that the uk is rejoining the horizon programme and the copernicus projects. it's been a long—running issue, it has to be ratified, the prime minister tonight scientists could apply for grants and projects with certainty. should they have any concerns that it has not yet been ratified? ., ., ., ~' concerns that it has not yet been ratified? ., ., ., ~ ., ., ratified? no, look, i do not pro-empt— ratified? no, look, i do not pro-emptthe_ ratified? no, look, i do not pre-empt the formal - ratified? no, look, i do not. pre-empt the formal decision ratified? no, look, i do not- pre-empt the formal decision that pre—empt the formal decision that needs to be taken but one thing is clear. it is a choice made by the british people, the brexit. as you know, today i am more than happy to observe the united kingdom and they would like to rebuild more ties with the european union. you would like to rebuild more ties with the european union.— the european union. you think this is the direction _ the european union. you think this is the direction of _ the european union. you think this is the direction of travel? - the european union. you think this is the direction of travel? i - the european union. you think this is the direction of travel? i don't i is the direction of travel? i don't want to talk _ is the direction of travel? i don't want to talk about _ is the direction of travel? i don't want to talk about things - is the direction of travel? i don't want to talk about things within | is the direction of travel? i don't i want to talk about things within the united kingdom. but it is interesting, let's be diplomatic, it is interesting to observe that on the one hand they decided to leave and we should respect for the decision, it was not our choice but i can observe on many topics, we feel the cooperation is needed for them, for us and in the eu side, we want good cooperation with our friends in the united kingdom. he said you gave him a better deal, did you give them a kick in a club rate deal? it you give them a kick in a club rate deal? , ., ~, ~ you give them a kick in a club rate deal? , ., my ,, ., deal? it is systematically like that when there _ deal? it is systematically like that when there is _ deal? it is systematically like that when there is a _ deal? it is systematically like that when there is a deal, _ deal? it is systematically like that when there is a deal, it _ deal? it is systematically like that when there is a deal, it is - deal? it is systematically like that when there is a deal, it is a - deal? it is systematically like thatj when there is a deal, it is a better deal! i suppose it is a better deal for the eu, ifeel if there is a deal it is because it is good for both sides. deal it is because it is good for both sides-— deal it is because it is good for both sides. ., , ., both sides. that was my colleague christian fraser _ both sides. that was my colleague christian fraser speaking - both sides. that was my colleague christian fraser speaking to - both sides. that was my colleague christian fraser speaking to the i both sides. that was my colleague | christian fraser speaking to the eu chief charles michel and christian fraser will have more than the g20 summit in delhi live in the context and that is coming up at the top of the hour. now it has emerged elon musk sabotaged a ukrainian drone attack on the russian navy. he acknowledged not acting on a request from kyiv to activate his satellite network which would have been used to guide the drones. elon musk said his company would have been complicit in an act of war had he agreed. the incident is revealed in agreed. the incident is revealed in a new book on the tech mogul. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. you are watching bbc news. north korea claims to have launched its first submarine capable of carrying out an underwater nuclear attack — though there's no evidence yet of its operational ability. these pictures were released by north korean state media. the vessel was reportedly unveiled in a ceremony on wednesday, presided over by the country's leader kimjong—un. a report in state media said the submarine strengthened the country's nuclear deterrent by "leaps and bounds". live now tojoseph dempsey — research associate for defence and military at international institute for strategic studies. good to have you with us. let's start with what we know on what we are yet to find out about the submarine.— are yet to find out about the submarine. ~ ., , ,, ., ., submarine. we actually know quite a bit about the — submarine. we actually know quite a bit about the submarine _ submarine. we actually know quite a bit about the submarine because - submarine. we actually know quite a bit about the submarine because it's| bit about the submarine because it's not the first time