before we do that, we want to run through the evidence. there's a lot of evidence suggesting that so many people so early on knew so much about such revolting allegations, yet seemingly did so little about it. tonight joe paterno is out, so is the university president, he's out. last night a lot of students did a lot of venting about that on campus calling for joe paterno to play one last game this weekend. they overturned a tv truck, chanted one more game and the university cheer we are penn state. the past few days a lot of people have been asking what is penn state. overnight joe paterno looked and sounded like the image he enjoyed for so many years, the no-nonsense, academics first do the right thing approach. he told protesters to go home and hit the books. >> go get a good night's sleep. study. we still have things to do. the phone call put me out of it but we will go from there. good luck, everybody. thank you. >> we love you! >> thank you. >> thank you for everything. >> one thing, and pray for those victims. >> it's that image of a coach so revered and so at odds with the sickening details of that case and the details really matter in this case. we will tell you a few excerpts from the grand jury finding of fact. i want to read you one of them. while in the shower sandusky approached the boy, grabbed him around the waist and said i'm going to squeeze your i guts out. this allegedly happened in 1998. when his mother learned about it, she went to the university police and confronted coach sandusky who was at the 0 time joe paterno's defense coordinator. they let police eavesdrop on two conversations she had with the coach. she asked him if his private parts touched victim six and sandusky replied, i don't think so, maybe. he tells victim six's mom mom, i was wrong. i wish i could get forgiveness. i knowty weren't get it from you. i wish i were dead. >> police say he admitted wrongdoing to police. and he said at the time his investigation included a second child who he said was subjected to nearly identical treatment by coach sandusky. serious allegations in more than one of them what happened next? according to the grnl finding, not much. the detective advised sandusky not to shower with my child again and the coach promised not to. he promised. the local district attorney was notified but decided not to pursue charges. six years ago he vanished. he hadn't been found since. the loek afl d.a. is a see fit to prosecute and warned the coach not to do it again. what about pennsylvania child welfare authorities? they were notified and did nothing. keeping them honest we asked them why and got no answer, just a statement from spokesman a ail anne bale. the law doesn't allow us to confirm or deny an investigation when it involves a child. the victim's mother and campus and local police knows, child welfare knows and essentially nothing happens. coach sandusky wins assistant coach of the year for 1999 and retired. he was 55 years old, a prime age for coaches. he could have written his own ticket, right. reportedly he got no job offers from elsewhere which raises the question did others, especially outside of state college know about jerry sandusky's alleged transgression and if so how could it be joe paterno's bon boss, his mentor and close friend did not know in 1998 which what was going on? he said he first learned of trouble in may of 2002 in sandusky. a professor allegedly raped a boy in the shower. according to the garage report, quote, he saw a naked boy, victim two whose age he estimated to be 10 years old with his hands up against the wall being subject to anal intercourse by a naked sandusky. it is sickening to think about this but it is important to know what we are talking about, the details and the violence of this. the graduate assistant left. apparently told his father and then told joe paterno what he had seen. according to paterno left out explicit details. not sure how he could have done that. paterno said he notified the university athletic director tim curley. a week and a half later, the graduate assistant told his story to curley and shultz, who is penn state's vp for finance and business who oversaw the campus police. despite that the grand jury found that no one ever notified campus police and never sought information on the 1998 allegations. what they did bar jerry sandusky from bringing anymore kids from the second mile program in to the football building. shultz said his memory was hazy about what the graduate assistant told the told the two of them. quote, the grand jury finds that portion of the testimony of tim curley and gary shultz are not credible. portions of the testimony not credible. cites them for making materially false statements under oath. as for the grad student, his name is mike mcqueary. he is now penn state's receivers coach. the grand jury found his account highly credible and found what he witnessed should have been reported to law enforcement and child welfare if not by mcqueary shultz, curley or many are saying joe paterno. there is breaking news from jerry sandusky's attorney jason carroll, jason? >> reporter: i spoke to him an hour ago, anderson. he is extremely frustrated. first off he disputes and his client, he says, disputes all of the allegation being made. i asked him about the case and he said he is in the infancy of building the case. trying to find witness and information that will help his client. but i really have to say, anderson he made it clear he feels as though jerry sandusky is already been tried in the court of public opinion here at penn state, being made out to be guilty before he has had a chance to prove his innocence in a court of law. anderson? >> did you ask about the grand jury testimony? >> oh, absolutely. once again, he denied all of the allegations that are made in that 23-page grand jury report. he specifically talked about that understand dment 1998 that you mentioned and i think by now a lot of people have heard about. victim number 6 is identified in that particular incident as 11-year-old boy. apparently sandusky does not deny he showered with this boy, but he says no sex actually took place. his attorney wanted to make that very clear. he said hopefully he will get a chance to prove that once again when he gets an opportunity put his case together. >> did he say how his client feels about his role in bringing down joe paterno? >> yes, absolutely. he basically told us that sandusky, at this point, feels devastated. another word he used is destroyed. obviously these two men were very close, sandusky and coach joe paterno. they had been connected for many, many years. he said quote, it is eating him up that these allegations have brought down a man that he called a legend. anderson? >> did it -- i mean, is it fair to say -- i mean -- i guess some people hearing that will say is this guy more upset about the affect on joe paterno or what is alleged to have happened to the young boys or the affect on these young boys? do you get a sense that he is taking it more seriously? >> that is a fair question. that's a fair question and i think based on the conversation that i had, this man feels like he's upset on all fronts. first and foremost, he feels as though he is tried in the public, in the court of public opinion, if you will, being made out 0 to be guilty, not just i here in penn state but the media as well. so that's first. and second, i think he also feels deeply hurt that because of all of these allegations that are being made about him, a man who he respected has been brought down. anderson? >> jason, thanks. let's turn to corey giger former the prosecutor sunny hostin and in session correspondent jean casarez. what do you make of what the attorney said for sandusky? he is going to fight the charges. >> certainly it is unfortunate he is going to force these young children to get on the stand and testify against him. because it's always -- not young children but they are older now. it is difficult for victims of sex crimes to come forward and testify in front of the person that's accused of doing these things to them and in front of a jury and in front of a packed courtroom. i think at the first level, they need to think about these young victims. we're not talking about mere accusations from one person. we're talking about, at this point, i believe there are nine victims that have come forward, anderson. that's unfortunate that it looks like something that is going to go perhaps to trial. >> sunny, he's out on bail f. a guy is arrested for this, are they able to seize his computer and look in to search his home based on these charges? >> well certainly that's typically something, anderson, that happens before arrest. you get a search warrant. if you have probably cause to believe what crime has been committed n. this case, since you have a grand jury presentment, a grand jury finding there's a preliminary hearing coming up. my understanding is that the investigation iston ongoing. that is part of an investigation. certainly they are looking in to all of these things in terms of jerry sandusky's alleged behavior. >> jean, there's an nbc news report out tonight that joe paterno has hired a criminal defense attorney. a family spokesperson said an attorney has not been obtained. if you were joe paterno would you hire an attorney it seems like a logical step. >> they said there would be no charges for not reporting alleged child abuse but for perjury, objection of justice, not outside of the realm of possibility and the civil suit could in the future absolutely mount toward him. i think eight victims may be just the beginning. >> this is a dumb question but why was there a grand jury and why did it take three years? if there were children who had come forward or allegations made why didn't -- why isn't a grand jury panel opposed to police investigating and bringing charges. >> i was asked that question earlier today. i don't think there is an answer. the official answer is it took the investigation that long because they had to be so careful. but, anderson, look at the years that have transpired and the grand jury proceeding, you are right, december, 2010, we are almost at december 2011. >> i know you are covering the status of mike mcqueary and that's where a lot of focus has been from people. he was a graduate assistant and allegedly saw jerry sandusky raping a boy in a locker room shower. full on rape. he reported it to joe paterno. didn't call police. he is still employed as a coach by penn state and a lot of people are wondering why if joe paterno failed a moral test by not calling police, didn't mcqueary fail as wul? >> absolutely. mike mcqueary's actions in that shower are appalling. to do the decent thing would be to help the young boy. you have to wonder what's happened to that young boy's life. why did mike mcqueary not take him out of that situation? why did he not protect him. i know he was stunned and probably shocked to see jerry sandusky in this act, but my gosh, anderson, you have to protect the young child. you have to take him out. we don't know who the child is. we don't know if he is alived. we don't know if he has been scarred for life. there's clearly a tremendous amount of vilify case of mike mcqueary. >> questions i would like to have answered and i don't know if you have thoughts on this, but he went to work for this the program. if you have witnessed something like that and you have reported it, you would think that you would constantly be following up, every single day saying, what's happening since i reported this rape of a child that i witnessed in the locker room. what is happening and get he seems to have continued in whatever fashioning to work and be elevated through this football program. >> you have to wonder how he has lived with himself all of these years. and one thing, anderson, college football coaches spend a lot of time together and talk about a lot of things. hours upon hours, deep in to the night. it is hard for me to believe other assistant coaches on penn state's staff didn't know about this and the 1998 incident. when you talk about the scandal, who knew, who knew what and who knew it when, i have to believe as the days and weeks go on, we are going to find out that many, many more people knew about the 1998 incident and the 2002 incident. it is common sense that would lead you to believe that somebody might tell somebody and tell somebody else and one thing that would be devastating would be if we were to find out that officials with the second mile organization knew about the allegations and these incidents in 1998 and 2002. because the second mile has been a tremendous help to a lot of young kids at-risk kids. but those officials knew that gary was involved in these things in '98 and 2002 you have to ask why they didn't come forward. i believe this scandal is in its infancy at this point as all of the national media con vernals here on state college. they are going to continue to dig and dig and everyone should be afraid of what they might potentially find. >> i want to ask you about a report that a penn state student, a sister of a boy allegedly molested by jerry sandusky says there is a joke campus about being sanduskied. students are making fun of this. we saw the writing that took place chx the violence that took place yesterday during the demonstrations on the penn state campus. what do you make of the reaction of so many students at penn state about this? it seems they don't get something or they are not seeing the big picture here. >> i would agree with that. i talked to a lot of students today. they were very, very frustrated and outraged because they thought all of us in the media and around the country made this all about joe paterno over the past couple of days. let's be clear. villain number one is jerry sandusky. i have had from so many students who were really furious that there hasn't been more focus on sandusky the past couple of days opposed to paterno because the students rightly or wrongly, they felt that paterno was vilified when sandusky started the mess. now we are beyond the paterno era now i think the scandal will get back to the focus of the deviance or the lchblged deviance. i think that is where the frustration from the students came in yesterday. >> i would arguing what we have been looking at is all of the people who had some level of information about this. and whether or not i they fulfilled their obligations morally and legally which is why paterno has understandably been brought up in all of this. but, i understand their frustration, as well. appreciate you joining us tonight. sunny hostin and jean casarez as well. follow me on twitter. i will be tweeting tonight. jerry sandusky is accused of multiple counts of child sex abuse over a 15-year time span. we will have more on why it took so long for law enforcement to take action and more on the charity that sandusky. >> it is three agencies of government that when i got there are gone. commerce, education and what's the third one there? 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