study, here's what he had to say. >> well, i knew that's why the american people are having such a hard time. that's why the idea of selecting as a campaign slogan forward is object sushd. >> mitt romney seems to be placing the blame on president obama. there's no doubt that that 40% drop is terrible. but what's lost in the comments is the fact the three years we're talking about are from 2007 to 2010. president obama didn't take office until 2009. so president obama and his supporters say you can't blame him, you have to look at the situation he inherited. you can agree with that or disagree. but in case you think i'm siding with president obama here, let me point out that president obama seems guilty of similar tactics. in a new campaign ad he zings governor romney for some bad ads in massachusetts. it could also be blamed on what he inherited when he took office. >> that is the key to all of this. if you ignored who the candidates were, here's the 2010 figure, $77,300 according to that study of the median family worth and by comparison what it was before in 2007, if you just look at those two numbers, this looks huge. it looks obviously like things were better here and here, but the key is you have to go beyond that and look at what's happening beyond it which is the question of this. what were we losing money on? the simple truth is we lost money on our jobs, we lost money on our savings because people weren't expecting that either, but the big loser is over here in the question of savings f home ownership, right there. that's where the big, big, precipitous fall came in terms of what people were owning and where they lost all of their family value. and look at this chart when that happened. if you look at u.s. home prices, the number one driving force in changing that change in value of net value, median home value, happened right in here. president obama didn't take office until about here, so you can see this gigantic climb in home values, huge fall off the cliff. he wasn't in office until here. so you're absolutely right to suggest that somehow it's his policies that lead the way to all of this is simply not true. the numbers say that's not the case. >> and mitt romney is certainly saying also that obama hasn't done enough to help get home prices back up, get people out of the water not fast enough. we mentioned tom in this intro that the obama campaign is now going after governor romney's massachusetts record using the same criteria they're crying foul against. >> absolutely. and you're right. republicans have a fair complaint to say that maybe the president should have stopped this sooner, he should have turned it around sooner. that's an absolutely valid complaint. but on the other side, the democrats are coming back at the republicans with the same tactics. they're saying romney the figure they love to driet over and over again, that he created fewer jobs when he was governor than any other governor in the country. they're right but what they're not bearing in mind, when he was in office from here to here, it's a one % gain. what they're not counting is the nature of the economy in the massachusetts. massachusetts was also hit by huge recession right before he took office, one that hammered technology companies and massachusetts has a lot of them. so the simple truth is both sides are using the same trick on each other. there may be more or less blame either way, but it's the same trick and it's equally unfair on both sides. anderson. >> joining me now to get into the raw tol particulars kevin madden and democratic strategies. would someone who heard the answer i gave this morning be able to tell that? >> well, i think that the governor is talking more about the divide right now between the president's posture on the economy, some of the rhetoric that he's using. and the real, the perceptions i think and the realities that americans are feeling every single day in this economy. the president has talked about that we're making progress and that the private sector is doing fine, but people are feeling very real anxieties about everything like tom said about housing prices and the amount of savings that they had as well as the rising costs that they're seeing whether it's at the gas pump or food prices or everything from health care costs to energy costs to education costs, all of those are rising right now. and that the president's policies right now. done enough to get us out of the economic doldrums that we've seen over the last four years and that's the reason we're having this election, we're putting a contest right now in our vision for the future and how to fix the economy against president obama's record and policies for the last three years. >> just for the record gas prices have been falling. >> they're still very high. >> the obama campaign is saying you should look at job creation under obama. shouldn't the obama account -- do the same thing. >> i think when we judge mitt romney's record in massachusetts, have you to look at what he did in massachusetts. the same sort of policies that he put in place in massachusetts are the same sort of policies talking about putting in place right now which is doubling down giving massive tax breaks to well think individuals by while raising fees. in our last 16 months we've had positive job growth in the private sector, for the last 16 months we've lost jobs of teachers and first responders and firemen. those are middle class jobs that count also. tactics aside, it's about the policies that mitt romney would implement if he were president, giving breaks to the wealthy. >> let me ask you about something that cornell referenced. the obama campaign has jumped on those comments that mitt romney made, saying that he wants to fire police, firefighters and teachers. romney is saying it was taken out of context. i want to play what he said. >> he said we need more firemen, more police men and more teachers, did he not get the message in wisconsin? the american people did. it's time for us to cut back on government and help the american people. >> isn't the implication there we don't need more firemen, police men and teachers and to cut government that's where you would fire. >> no the implication is we have different world views on how to spr economic growth. romney has made clear we need to put more faith back in the american people. >> when you say cut government and he's citing -- >> but he's citing teachers and firemen and police. >> we help spur the economic growth by putting federal taxpayer dollars into growing the size of government and hiring more government workers. the problem here in order to get the local tax base, the other thing to remember too, localities, local city governments and states, they're the ones that hire first responders. they're the ones that are primarily responsible for education funding. so what happens is we're not going to have a federal government write a check. what happens when that money is gone sm if you have a one-time hit, what happens when you don't have a local economic growth. if you don't have a growth in the local economic base, you can't sustain teach, firemen and police officers. so you have to grow the economic base. >> it sounded like romney is saying we don't need more teach, firemen or police men and we've got to cut government. is he saying to fire some? >> no. i think he's saying that when we're looking at growing the economy, the most important thing to do is grow the private sector. because when you have a very robust private sector, then you can sustain the jobs of firemen, teachers and police men. look, that's an important point that governor walker even made. >> is that what you think romney was saying. >> i think what you see is two different visions in all due respect to the other side on this. you see one vision where president obama is saying you know what? we've got to invest in those things that are going to empower the middle class. the idea that we're going to cut teachers and police officers and somehow that's going to lead to a more prosperous and stronger and safer future for americans, you have to scratch your head. what kind of thought process is it if i cut back on teachers i have less kids getting into college and cut back on first responders, somehow that's going to help our country grow and be successful. with all due respect, you have two very different visions. what about investing in those things that help the middle class grow and what about cutting the things that cut away the middle class in order to profit the wealthy. >> let us know what you think, send me a tweet. prosecutors calling two of their most powerful witnesses to the stand. the penn state coach who claims he actually caught sandusky in the courthouse. plus the latest on the deadly fire in colorado. 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>> based on courtroom reaction, anderson, it was extremely compelling. this is an 18-year-old young man. when he walked into the courtroom, he looked vulnerable. quite frankly, he looked scared. when he sat down and began to testify, he really became emotional when he described the abuse which he says began in 2005 at the hands of jerry sandusky. mostly occurring in the basement of sandusky's home. anderson, he said it always began the same way. started with a back rub. he went on to say, quote, after rubbing and cracking my back, putting his hands down my shorts and blowing on my stomach, he, he had -- then they paused for a moment, broke down and began crying. before he could finish, he looked directly at jerry sandusky who was sitting in the front of the courtroom. jerry sandusky looked at him. then he went on to say, he put his mouth on my privates. at that moment, i looked at the jurors who were sitting over to my left. juror number 9, she's an elderly woman in her 70s. if you recall, during jury selection, she was one of those who said, i feel as though it's my duty to protect children. she had her hand over her mouth during this testimony. so it clearly had a major impact on her. >> sarah, the sandusky defense attorney, joe amendola really pressed witness number one. inconsistencies in his grand jury testimony. how did he handle that? >> honestly, anderson, he broke down at one point. and looked directly at the prosecutor and asked him for help. he say, please make him stop asking me the same question. you know, it was interesting, because during cross examination, joe amendola was harping on the fact his story changed slightly. accuser number one said on the stand -- he was quite honest, i thought, with jurors. he said, look, i testified three times before a grand jury. i told my story to multiple police officers. every time, it was someone new. i didn't feel comfortable with someone new. i was embarrassed and i was holding back. i'm hear today telling the truth. amendola kept coming back at him with the same question. he just broke down at one point. you know, he's 18 years old. and he looked at the prosecutor. he got no help. he gathered himself. he answered the question one more time. then they moved on. >> how does that play to a jury? he's pressing a witness about apparent inconsistencies. is that a winning strategy? >> often it is. in this case, i doubt it. given the magnitude of these charges. given the number of accusers. given how embarrassing the information is. it would not be surprising if an 18-year-old kid told the story somewhat differently. look, amen dola is doing his job. i don't begrudge him that. think about how horrible this testimony is. what's mike mcqueary's incentive to lie here? he looks horrible. he's the one who didn't go to the police when he sees jerry is an san dusky r paing this kid. why would he lie about this? yes, it's possible someone would could have told inconsistent stories. but when you have so many witnesses, it just seems overwhelming. >> what did mcqueary say on the stand today? >> mike mcqueary has basically been saying a lot of what we've been hearing all along. basically, he said he went into that locker room during that alleged incident. heard rhythmic sort of slapping sounds. skin on skin count he says he allegedly saw jerry sandusky embracing a young boy. the young boy with his hands up against the wall. at one point that really seemed to grab the juror's attention. was when prosecutors put up a huge video screen and showed actual pictures of the show. and then put mannequins to position it exactly where sandusky was standing and where this young boy was standing. at a certain point, the defense tried to poke holes into mcqueary's theory. what sort of specifics were you telling others about this, university officials. but mcqueary seemed to stand by his story. saying all along i know what i saw. >> what about these allegations of new documents that were released today that alleged that officials at penn state withheld the evidence that was subpoenaed by the grand jury? >> it was actually part of the response that prosecutors filed because one of those officials, gary shultz, is trying to get his charges dropped. so prosecutors filed this response that said, look we just obtained these new documents that show more evidence in your case. they're using it to bolster their case. they're saying he kept some kind of file. we don't know the contents of the file. only it was some kind of file about allegations made against jerry sandusky. we know shultz, this defendant, is one of the only people that knew about several different allegations. because he was the director of the police department. and there had been a report to police in 1998. and then he was also involved in the report that mike mcqueary is involved in. >> i understand we just got a response from his attorney. >> that's right. i'm reading it to you right now. it's just come to me on my blackberry. this comes from tom ferrell. he represents shultz. he said, mr. shutz did not possess any secret files. all his files were left behind after he retired and were available to his secretaries and his successor. the only, quote, secret, information revealed was the privileged grand jury information inaccurately described by unidentified law enforcement sources to the media. that statement coming to us just a few moments ago from tom ferrell, gary shultz's attorney. anderson. >> how long do you think it's going on? >> a few more weeks. he said -- the judge has said he's going to do this quickly, in a couple weeks. i just find it hard to believe it's going -- you can get that much testimony in that quickly. >> do you think sandusky will take the stand? >> i think it is out of the question. i just don't see how he can possibly respond to all this testimony. >> jeffrey toobin, appreciate it. coming up next, stunning new report levels some serious allegations against the syrian government, saying they're specifically targeting children, torturing them, killing them, using them even as human shields. details ahead. corporate caterers showed how to better collaborate by using a mobile solution, in a whole new way. using real-time photo sharing abilities, they can create and maintain high standards, from kitchen to table. this technology allows us to collaborate with our drivers to make a better experience for our customers. 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