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indiana, remember back in january a pence attorney discovered about a dozen classified documents at the former vp's home. and just yesterday, the special counsel subpoenaed pence. jack smith's office wants him to hand over documents and testify under oath about interactions he had with trump leading up to the 2020 election and the attack on the capitol. cnn's senior justice correspondent evan perez joins us now. let's start with what you know about this search at pence's home. >> reporter: well, victor, this was a search that the former vice president and his legal team consented to. this is something that the justice department, that the fbi and the pence team had been working on for several -- for a couple of weeks at least and today's finally the day you see there the pictures, the state police blocking off the driveway and they're doing a search there, trying to find -- trying to see whether there are any more classified documents. for the pence team, they want to try to get this over with. they are hoping that at the end of this, after this search, that there are no more documents found, we expect that there is going to be another search of his office, a think tank office he has here in washington, right across the street from the fbi building, in downtown washington. and if at the end of this there are no more documents found, they hope that the fbi can wrap up this investigation without launching a full blown investigation, without going to a special counsel, that's something they're hoping to avoid because as you know, victor, the former vice president has some political aspirations, he wants to go to iowa, wants to start beginning the conversation about a possible presidential run. >> sure, sure. tell me what you know about this subpoena from the special counsel jack smith. >> reporter: it is absolutely a historical milestone that the special counsel is taking, the justice department certainly doesn't do this very often. but the vice president, the former vice president is an important witness in everything that happened in the leadup to the january 6th attack on the u.s. capitol, everything from his meetings in december of 2020, where he laid out and talked to trump about trump's plans to challenge the elections as well as some important meetings, key meetings in january of 2021 where they talked about this plan of theirs to try to have pence put aside the election results and to try to impede essentially the transfer of power. those are things that are at the center of this investigation. and we know, victor, that there have been negotiations back and forth between the pence legal team and the justice department as to how to do this. a key part of this is the fact that mike pence published a book in november where he talked a lot about these things, so now obviously the justice department wants him to talk about this and possibly more. victor? >> evan perez for us in washington, thank you very much. elie honig, cnn senior legal analyst, former federal prosecutor. let's start with the search. if there is no additional classified document found in this search or let's say at the office in washington, that search will be coming soon, you think a special counsel is necessary for the dozen documents that were discovered by pence's attorneys? >> no, victor. i think if this turns up no further classified documents, we will not see a special counsel. you really need two things if you're the justice department, the attorney general in order to appoint a special counsel. you need some kernel of evidence, some reason to believe there might eventually be proof of a crime and you need extraordinary circumstances, which would be a conflict of interest. if there is no evidence that pence had classified documents other than the ones he turned over, if he's not declared a candidate for office, i don't see either of those things and this could be the end of it if there is no further documents found. >> this subpoena, there are obviously political considerations here. we'll talk about those with the political folks later. but legally, what are the options for the vice president as he decides how to respond? >> so, vice president mike pence has really three opentions here he can comply, go in and testify in front of a grand jury under oath. second of all, they have been negotiating up to this point, but you can continue negotiating. sometimes the actual service of a subpoena will spur those negotiations along. it is actually not at all unprecedented. we saw bill clinton negotiate with ken starr for his testimony, and we saw donald trump negotiate for robert mueller. they agreed to written testimony. we could see ongoing negotiations. the third path is we could see a legal challenge. it is important to note, that could come from mike pence who says i don't want to testify as to certain things for executive privilege. that could come from donald trump as an outside third party saying i was the president, i am the holder of executive privilege and i want to block mike pence's testimony, if we see that kind of legal challenge, victor, i think the law here, the precedent favors the prosecutors, there is a balancing that will have to be done by the courts, but that certainly will take time. >> so, evan mentioned the book that the vice president wrote, released just before the midterms, how much does the publication of that book and the discussion of the conversations and what have been around the election, the attack on the capitol, influence what happens next. >> well, that's going to be an important factor, if there is a legal fight over executive privilege. prosecutors are going to argue waiver, they're going to say he's already talked about this, publicly, your honor and therefore he's given up the right to keep it secret, even if what he said was only sort of partial, even if he doesn't tell the entire conversation. that can be construed as a waiver. if you're mike pence, once you have come out and started discussing these things publicly, then there is an argument that you have given it away. donald trump may have an actual interesting counterargument, he doesn't control the privilege. that's my privilege. i'm the former president, so maybe he does whatever he did, but that shouldn't be held against me. that will be an interesting and really unprecedented issues for the courts. >> one more this is for robert o'brien, trump's former national security adviser, who has been subpoenaed, not only in the investigation surrounding january 6th, but also the documents discovered at mar-a-lago. how much could he offer to the documents investigation? >> so this one is really interesting. he really has the same options we just discussed with mike pence. he can testify, he can try to negotiate, or he can fight it in the courts. but it did catch my attention that the former national security adviser was subpoenaed in the mar-a-lago documents investigation. i mean, i suppose prosecutors want to know what do you know about these actual documents, what do you know about how they got to mar-a-lago, was this run past you, did you approve of this? and i think his answers could be really interesting there, whether he did or didn't know about it, whether he blessed it, whether he believes there is a security risk posed by these documents being at mar-a-lago. so i think that's where prosecutors are looking with him. >> elie honig, good to have you. have a good weekend. thank you. >> all right. the number of those killed in turkey and syria continues to climb. now it is the deadliest earthquake in at least a decade. more than 23,000 people have died from that 7.8 magnitude quake on monday, more than 80,000 are hurt. in turkey, the president said about 141,000 rescuers are there, on the scenes, ten provinces they're working there, all of which have declared states of emergency. the world health organization estimates 23 million people are impacted by this catastrophe. and the u.s. pledged $85 million in aid with dozens of nations offering to help as well. still, more than 100 hours later there are miracles. often involving the tiniest victims. now, this is a warning that the video you're about to see is graphic. anderson cooper takes us to the front line for rescue workers there in syria. >> feet away, they move the woman's arm, and find a toddler named hamuda she was protecting. his eyes closed, no sign of life, they pick away the concrete, but then -- [ crying ] the cry of life. >> wow. cnn's selma abdelaziz is in inta istanbul. tell us what you know about the rescues that we're seeing, that so far outside of what is called this golden window that are still happening. >> reporter: it is incredible, isn't it? what a feat of humanity in those many, many rescue workers on the ground, fanned out across that earthquake zone, still digging through the rubble of these homes, working almost without sleep, without rest because every time they begin to hear the sound of life, as you said, they have to work tirelessly. and we have a couple of stories to bring you with some video to show you. i think the one that is really playing out here today in turkey is the story of two sisters two teenage sisters who were trapped in the rubble of their homes, they were rescued around the 100th hour of this crisis. one of them, i found out after a ten-hour ordeal, rescue workers are trying to keep her spirits up that whole period asking her what she wanted to ice, she said ice cream, they asked her what flavor, they're playing music for her, eventually she was pulled out safely. her sister as well shortly afterwards, we also saw the story of a family helped, six, all pulled out alive. parents and four children. their images that we can play you there of one of the sons just standing by crying in disbelief that his family, his whole life is -- his loved ones are okay. but, victor, these stories of survival, unfortunately, are rare. they are far and few in between. overwhelmingly what we are seeing on the ground is anguish. actually recovery operations. families just huddled in the cold entering the fifth day, for days, waiting, waiting to pull out the bodies of their loved ones so they can bury them. the staggering death toll, 22,000, so mind boggling, it is difficult to fathom and it keeps rising as they pull these bodies out from the rubble. entire families gone. but it is aid, help that is also needed on the ground. that's the warning from authorities, they're saying there are fears of a second crisis, a second disaster, and that is unfolding right now. you have to think of the hundreds of thousands of homeless people who have absolutely nothing. and it is volunteers like the ones around me here, packing boxes, as quickly as they can, with basics, with food, warm blankets, everything they can that are filling that gap on the ground. there has been a great deal of criticism toward president erdogan for his response, did he act quickly enough, were buildings built up to code, could lives have been saved? he's been dogged by these questions. he's promising to pay the rent for one year for any survivors, promising to get housing, but, look, help can't come soon enough. lives are on the line, children are sleeping cold on the streets tonight in that earthquake zone. >> selma abdel aabdelaziz, than for the reporting. joining me is the founding director of the turkey program at the middle east institute. her book "erdogan's war: strong man's struggle at home and in syria" came out last fall. i want to talk about the response in just a moment. first, i want to talk about your family. you were actually in turkey at the time of the earthquake. are you okay? tell us what that was like. >> well, i am okay, thank you. i was a few hour drive from one of the worst hit areas in the country with my family. we had cracks in the building that we were staying in, but we received a phone call from my sister's husband, saying that the city had been leveled to the ground. and his entire family had been trapped under the rubble. >> and i read that he had actually initially found his father who was alive at the time, right? >> that's right. he went to his childhood home, and the building had been -- had collapsed, but he got his father out of the rubble with his bare hands, but his legs were stuck under a large concrete block, and he waited and waited and waited for hours, 48 hours before the rescue workers showed up, only to tell him that he had -- that they had received instructions to focus somewhere else. and that's why he lost his loved ones, and so the thousands of people there. >> i've been wondering as we watch the video of people searching, trying to find people, the tens of thousands who are injured, where do they go with the thousands, literally thousands of buildings in turkey alone that are heavily damaged or collapsed? and you, i've read, you're angry, you're disappointed by the response. what would you like to see that you are not? >> well, help didn't come on time. this is not the first earthquake t tragedy that the country witnessed. we had another major earthquake in 1999. at the time i was part of a student organization that went to the earthquake area to help the victims. and what i saw there was totally different from what i saw. in 1999, there were organizations, volunteers, the turkish military had been dispatched fairly quickly. and there were civil society organizations, aid agencies, rescue workers, all on the ground helping the victims and helping efforts, the search and rescue efforts. now on the other hand, it took 48 hours for rescue workers to show up. so the response was not fast enough and i think it is part of a larger problem with erdogan's turkey. >> you believe that it is a domestic problem, not a global community reaction problem? >> no, not at all. i think it is mostly the corruption and misrule in the country that made monday's earthquake far deadlier. so erdogan basically hollowed out institutions in his 20 years at the helm, he wiped out civil society organizations, but most importantly he granted government infrastructure projects through the construction companies that have little regard for safety regulations and building policies. >> gunol tol, our condolences to your family, considering all the loss of life, and the struggle that undoubtedly will be ahead. thank you so much. for more information on how to help the victims of the earthquake, go to cnn.com/impact. let's go to the white house now, john kirby is speaking there about the president's plans as it relates to ukraine. >> -- states in a region that is also critically important region and allies we work together to address common challenges throughout the world, quite frankly, not just in this part of it. president has personal experience working with president -- with his time as vice president and they met several times and had multiple calls. and we already held a number of high level engages since president lula's election. he called him shortly after he was elected to congratulate and began identifying areas where the two could work together. national security council adviser jake sullivan traveled there and there was a presidential delegation to brazil for the inauguration. of course, following the january 8 attack on brazil's democracy, president biden was quick to call president lula to convey the united states' unwavering support for democracy in brazil. the two have had or they will have a path here to discuss issues that are important to both of them and to the region and the world. that includes combatting climate change, stimulating economic development, strengthening democracy, promoting human rights, and inclusion, as well as managing irregular migration. this meeting between the two leaders will strengthen the relationship between the united states and brazil, and will help set the stage for upcoming high level engagements between the two countries. one more note before we jump into questions, an update on u.s. efforts to respond and to help provide assistance to the people of turkey and syria in the wake of those devastating earthquakes. we are ramping up our assistance to these earthquakes that have now killed more than 20,000 people. turkey and syria, including, that we know of, at least eight american citizens. this is a terrible tragedy, obviously, and our hearts continue to go out to all those impacted. we remain in close contact with our turkish allies at every level of government, including a phone call between president biden and president erdogan. yesterday, we announced that the united states will provide $85 million in life saving assistance to provide shelter to the displaced as well as food, medicine, and other desperately needed aid. in turkey, a usaid disaster assistance and response team is already on the ground. and two of our most highly trained urban search and rescue teams are conducting operations in support of turkish rescue efforts in one of the hardest hit areas inside the country. these teams have nearly 200 personnel combined between them, specialized equipment and canine support dogs as well. they have been able to expand their operational reach with the support of u.s. milititary blackhawk helicopters. ground transportation, i think you can understand, is pretty challenging. they will continue to run airlift operation, transporting rescue personnel to sites most needed to conduct operations. the dart teams as we call them are also conducting structural damage assessments of many buildings and infrastructure. to date they have been able to cover more than 630 sites across the area. in syria, our humanitarian partners scale up response efforts to reach people in need. that work will include or has included chartered flights that are transporting essential medical supplies and teams distributing hot meals and other food. as of this morning, the united nations and its partners successfully completed its second cross border humanitarian convoy into northwest syria and one of our humanitarian partners delivered 14 additional truck loads of supplies through the crossing, totalling now 20 trucks of critical medicines, food and water to people in need over the last two days. to underscore that u.s. sanctions will not prevent or inhibit prohibiting humanitarian assistance in syria, yesterday the department of treasury, you saw, issued a broad general license to provide additional authorizations for disaster relief assistance to the syrian people. we already were able to deliver humanitarian assistance without this general license, but we wanted to underscore the importance of humanitarian getting in so the treasury went ahead and issued this license as well. this license will be in effect for six months. u.s. humanitarian assistance is delivered directly to the syrian people, no matter where they live. and we're determined to do all we can to help those affected by th