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0 18-year-old man. and we've also seen protesters. but not a lot. a number of people who are there with signs, who were perhaps hoping for a different outcome here. but the jurors, they looked at the law, they looked at jury instructions, they reviewed several pieces of evidence as they were deliberating over the course of four days, 25 hours. not guilty on all charges. the end of the kyle rittenhouse trial. the news continues right now with alisyn camerota. hello, everyone, i'm alisyn camerota. welcome to "newsroom." victor is off. we do have breaking news. minutes ago a jury acquitted kyle rittenhouse on all counts. rittenhouse was 17 years old when he fatally shot two men and wounded a third with an ar-15 style rifle that he brought to racial justice protests in august of 2020. he was charged with homicide and reckless endangerment. he could have gotten a life sentence but will walk free today. rittenhouse took the stand during trial, testifying that he acted in self-defense. the jury deliberated for roughly 25 hours. >> the first count of the information, joseph rosenbaum, we the jury find the defendant not guilty. as to the second count of the information, bridget mcginnis, we the jury find the defendant kyle rittenhouse not guilty. as to the third count of the information unknown male, we the jury find the defendant kyle rittenhouse not guilty. as to the fourth count of the information, anthony huber, we the jury find the defendant kyle rittenhouse not guilty. as to the fifth count of the information, gaige grosskreutz, we the jury find the defendant kyle rittenhouse not guilty. >> members of the jury, these are your unanimous verdicts? is there anyone who does not agree with the verdicts as read? we wish the jury polled? >> yeah. okay. >> we have a team of the reporters on ground in kenosha. first let's go to sara sidner oust outside of the courthouse. you were inside of the courtroom for the verdict and we just watched the video of kyle rittenhouse collapsing behind the desk. so describe that moment that the verdicts were read. >> reporter: for each of the verdicts, you could see him starting to choke up. you could see his neck moving. you could see his head bobbing a bit and when the final verdict was read all of them were not guilty. he did collapse there in a show of emotion. as you might imagine, this is a person who is years old and was facing you know life imprisonm for some of these charges. we also know that behind him you would see his family and i noticed his mom, she -- there was an audible gasp from her in the first not guilty and as this went along her hands, her head fell into her hands where she appeared to be crying and relief after this. and as you know, this means that kyle rittenhouse is now a free man at 18 years old. he could go about his life. he could not be tried again for these crimes in this case. from what happened in august, you're seeing then again one ever his attorneys just helping him up. he is obviously -- this is been extremely stressful for everyone involved in this. not only obviously kyle rittenhouse, but the families of those who were shot by kyle rittenhouse. two of whom were killed, one of the people shot took the stand and was a key witness in this case. i do want to read you something that we just received, our producer jason received this from the family of john -- of mr. huber. and as you know, huber, anthony huber was one of the people, the second person shot and killed that night in august by kyle rittenhouse coming at him with his skateboard and making contact hitting kyle rittenhouse. the mother and father of anthony huber said this and i'm going to read it to you so that it is accurate. they said we're heartbroken and angry that kyle rittenhouse was acquitted in his criminal trial for the murder of our son anthony huber. there was no justice today for anthony or for mr. rittenhouse's other victims, josen rosenbaum and gaige grosskreutz. he was shot but did not die. his bicep was blown off and he did take the stand in this case. we should also mention that the mother and father of mr. huber, anthony huber, were not in the courtroom watching all of this and they explained why, they could not take the emotional toll from sitting in trial however members of anthony huber's family were there. his aunt for example was in court watching all of this the machinations of this court and waiting for the jury's discussion. but you hear there from a family who felt that their son was trying to do something valiant and they feel like justice was not served here. you'll hear the complete opposite from kyle rittenhouse, his family and his attorneys who feel that kyle rittenhouse as the jury also decided was innocent of all of these shootings and did so in self-defense. i do want to talk to you a little bit about some of the things that we learned in this case while the trial was going on. that was not public knowledge or whats not widely known publicly. one of things that we learned is that there is this drone video, a high resolution drone video that many folks had not seen including the prosecution and the defense until five days into this trial. and that high resolution drone video was taken by a civilian who had not i guess handed it over, they could not find him. both the defense and prosecution looked for him before the trial. could not find him. it ended up getting into the hands of the prosecution by someone from the civilian who had taken this drone video and that was very clear. you could see what was happening in the first shooting that night where kyle rittenhouse shot and killed joseph rosenbaum. now we also learned that the ar-15 style rifle that rittenhouse carried that day in the streets was legal for him to possess. the judge saying that it has h to be a certain measurement for it to be illegal for him to be hold of and that was dropped right before the jury went to start deliberating in this case. the prosecution's comments on that, they didn't seem to know that the measurements made a huge difference here. but indeed the judge decided that is exactly what was the case and so that was never adjudicated by this jury. the judge dropped that. we also learned that kyle rittenhouse's father and other family members lived here in kenosha and he was here in kenosha the night before he went out into the street. there has been a lot of politicians an there have been a lot of folks on social media saying that he came over with his gun, crossing state lines with that gun. that is not the case. we learned that in this trial. that indeed the gun was actually here in kenosha at the family of a friend's house who bought that rifle for him and that he ended up with it that night. not taking it across state lines to come to the protest. but taking it from his friends' family home. we do know that in this case that there are high emotions everywhere. that politics has played in this with the right and left going at it over what they think should happen. and we're seeing that play out on the steps of the courthouse as well. >> yeah, sarah, thank you for all of that. stand by for us. obviously we'll dock back to you because there is a lot happening outside of the courthouse right now. we want to go to shimon prokupecz, also following this trial every day for us. and i understand that you talked to the defense attorneys this morning and were they confident, were they anxious, how were they feeling after almost 25 hours of deliberation? >> reporter: i think there certainly was some anxiety from them. because they for both of them, the two defense attorneys, they've never waited this long for a verdict. they've been attorneys for a long time. mark richards an attorney for 30 years, this is the longest he's had to wait for a verdict. they thought they put on a strong defense, having rittenhouse testify. that was a big moment in this case. i was in there for some of the that testimony. the jurors at one point felt some sort of sense there was some compassion for him. his testimony was clearly effective. the other thing certainly, you know, for them this morning, they can't understand what was taking so long. they thought maybe there was one or two holdouts. they were very interested about what happened here yesterday with that juror who wanted to take the notes home -- the jury instructions, that she wanted to take those home. they were worry that might work against them but it may in the end have helped them because maybe this was the one holdout or something. so maybe we'll find out, maybe not. but this morning for them, they were going about their business. we saw kyle rittenhouse into the courtroom. he's not in jail. he's been out and able to move a little bit around the courthouse. he has security around him. so we got to see him today. they were certainly some anxiety but they were confident and they put on a really good case. and when you look at this case, and the way that the prosecution presented it, they have problems with the beginning from some of the witnesses who, remember, somehow were better for the defense. these were prosecution witnesses but once they took the stand, certainly they sounded and they gave this sense of such chaos on the night of the shooting because it wasn't just about the moment when kyle rittenhouse fired his weapon, it was always about the lead up to that and the events that were going on. and really the video painted such a picture. such a chaos, such a scary scene in some ways for some of the jurors. they didn't amazing job bringing the jurors back from that night. they're from the community and they remember it and that is something that they did very, very well and clearly the jurors here believed it. and they understood it and so they clearly now have made their decision and so it is an acquittal on all counts. we do think we'll be hearing from one of the defense attorneys at sp point. he would talk to the media. prosecutors, we don't expect to hear from them but we do expect to hear from the defense team and that should happen hopefully sometime later tonight. >> it is also possible we'll hear from some of the jurors, the judge there at the end gave them basically permission or reminded them that they have permission to speak if they wanted to. to the media. i think that was his message to them. >> reporter: right. >> stand by if you would. we want to go adrianne broadous, live in kenosha. you were in the thick of the emotions right after the verdicts were read. so tell us what is happening on the ground? >> reporter: you know, it's peaceful and calmed down from the moment that you witnessed earlier. listen, today is november 19th, it is a day of relief for some and for others in this community it is a day of sadness. behind us on the steps of the courthouse you have a few supporters. folks who have been here throughout the past two weeks in support of kyle rittenhouse. you also have other folks who told me just moments ago that in their eyes justice was not serviced today, including the uncle of jacob blake, justin. now is who jacob blake. we have to take a step back and look at why we are here. what led to this moment. that night in august, there were protests if kenosha, folks were out protesting what they called police brutality after jacob blake was shot multiple times in the back by kenosha police. last year in january, on january 5th, jacob blake's uncle justin was here. that was the day that the officer who shot his nephew was killed of all wrongdoing and when he heard the verdict he said today, november 19th, was worse than that day in january. he described it as layering a cake and he said the layers on the cake get thicker and thicker and he said it is hard to bear. but he encouraged everyone to remain peaceful and go home and rest and pull their bootstraps because they have work to do and when he talks about work, he's not only talking about the work that he believes needs to happen here in kenosha but work around the country, referencing to what is playing out in georgia where the three men are on trial for the killing of ahmaud arbery. but today was a disappointing day for the family of jacob blake and their thoughts and prayers and hearts are really with the deceased family, the two men who kyle rittenhouse shot and killed. >> stand by for us. thank y thank you very much. we want go back to sara sidner. we remember the summer when after jacob blake was shot certainly after george floyd was shot and the protesters, the grass root protests of people who felt that there were so many injustices basically and they took to the streets. and so how -- was that back drop present through all of this? >> reporter: absolutely. absolutely. it is present here outside of the court, as i mentioned jacob blake's uncle who is just walking behind me was here every single day in support of those who were shot and killed or shot and injured by kyle rittenhouse. there were folks who would show up who, as you just heard adrianne say, who were here in support of kyle rittenhouse. the racial undertones are here. there are black folks here in town who will tell you that they believe that he was going to get off and that it is all, you know, set and ready because he happened to be a young white child of 17 at the time. and there are folks here who believed that he would be found guilty because of his color and because he had a large ar-style gun and they're upset about the second amendment. there are so many thingsly that play into this in the minds of folks who are out here. but i will say this. many of the folks who were out here on the steps were not l list -- listening to the trial every day and they were not in the courtroom every day listening to all of the details. they were outside. sometimes listening, sometimes arguing, sometimes coming up with their own ideas of what has happened and that also has played out on social media as it has played out in every single case in every single political you know argument that we have seen ever since twitter and facebook and all of the rest have existed. and so you are seeing this play out in america online and in a very different way than it played out inside of the court where you are watching every detail and learning every detail of what happened and watching all of the video which i have watched over and over and over again. some of the new video, the drone video was very important, and some of the video that we've all seen of people chasing after mr. rittenhouse. but there are still very raw emotions here. because there is a lot of talk about if he happened to be black, what would this be, how would this havended. and those discussions are going to be going on in america for time in memory um and that is not something that this court was trying to concern itself with. it was trying to get the jury to see things very plainly with the evidence that was in front of them. and they did so. they looked at it. we know that they were diligent because they spent 25 hours every single day for five, six hours a day, looking at this video trying to discern what the truth was here and trying to make a -- come up with a verdict they felt was just. of course people not everyone is going to feel this is just. there are two people who are dead and there is one person who was terribly injured in all of this. one thing that we learned that night in august when the shooting happened is that a lot of folks had guns. someone fired before mr. rittenhouse fired, there is someone who had a gun that was not permitted at the time. there were a lot of folks who were armed. and what we also learned is that having the gun strapped across their chest and there were quite a few people that came to kenosha or that were in kenosha. it actually ended up causing instead of them saying this is defense and it cause the consternation and arguments where there were folks that were no pun intended triggered by the fact there were these large war-looking weapons out in the street. but it is legal to carry here in kenosha and in wisconsin. and people have been doing so, but this has also called into the light, the fight over the second amendment as well. and so there are a lot of different political angles here. there is a racial back drop here that is playing out. but it has, i want to reiterate, it has remained calm. throughout this two and a half weeks of the trial and now the jury, deliberation and verdict, it has remained calm. there have been a couple of scuffles and arguments, there have been some detentions. and there so-- have been a coup of problems but a couple. it has been cordial and i saw people arguing and agreeing on a few points even though they were on opposite sides of the spectrum. so there is discussion that is going to be have h about this for years i assume to come. >> sarah, you make such great points. obviously there is strong feelings and there is emotions but that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the law and whether or not a conviction is warranted and you listened to the evidence as the jury did and this is what they have come up with. shimon prokupecz is also standing by for us. shimon, tell us what you're seeing and the points you want to make? >> reporter: so, we're getting some information regarding the jury. and just sort of some color there. there are pool reporter who just put this out who was obviously in the courtroom saying that the juror, some jurors looked fatigued in the jury box as the verdicts were read. some with their hands on their chins or rubbing their eyes. others appeared ill at ease, shifting in their chairs or folding arms across their chest. so this is just some color. this jury, it is been incredible to watch them. specifically during the deliberations. a few times that we got to see them, because they did deliberate for quite sometime. when you think about the 24, 25 plus hours that they were deliberating, we didn't hear much from them. they didn't ask for much. i know there was one day where they have several questions about the video. and video seemed to be -- this is the main thing of this case. this video. but it was the drone video that they asked for that the judge cleared the courtroom for and played for 45 minutes. the prosecution really thought this was going to be sort of like their smoking gun, like this video would help them. and the defense was worried about it. that is why they wanted it thrown out. they were worried that this video was going to prove for the prosecution that kyle rittenhouse was the instigator, that provocation charge. so they were worried about that video. the jurors did not have a lot of questions other than that one day c concerning the video and then for the most part they just worked. they kind of quietly worked. did their jobs. last thing they did today was order lunch and then within an hour after that wed getting indications that somethings with going on and that there was in verdict. obviously there were a lot of key points in this case. the other thing is on the prosecution side, when their witness, one of the witnesses testified, grosskreutz, who had a weapon, that seemed to really shift the case for the prosecution. once the defense got him to admit that he pointed his gun, he had a gun on him that night, a handgun, he had his gun on him that night and that he pointed it at one point towards kyle rittenhouse, it was pointed at him, and then rittenhouse, that is when he opened fire. you could start to sense that things were shifting in this case almost immediately after that. because even when the prosecution tried to rehabilitate him and did a redirect examination and were asking him about that, he admitted that he had the gun. and then the other issue was that the defense made a big issue is that he who had a handgun, did not have a license, a concealed license to carry a weapon. he was never charged. so there were all of the

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