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anywhere. we did get word from police, at least one police officers was hit with a projectile. he had to be taken to the hospital. told he is going to be okay. but for the most part we have not seen violence break out but police are standing by in riot gear. we don't have word of whether or not they are about to move in and try to get people out. we did get word a short time ago -- at least a local paper, police are now telling people you need to get out of the streets or face arrest. again, we have been watching these pictures throughout the morning and we are five hours past that deadline for people to leave the encampment. but yes, it is 5:00 a.m. local time and people are still out in a stand-off with police. earlier i talked to one of those protesters, who's been a part of of the occupy demonstrations in portland for the past six weeks. her name is kerry coe. listen to what she told me. >> what we're doing here in occupy portland and the occupy movement globally is we are bringing to the forefront issues that desperately matter to people. talking about inequality of wealth and power. talking about homelessness and foreclosures. talking about issues that matter to people's lives, and the mayor can order us to leave, but we have the right to freedom of assembly, we have right to free speech and we have the right to be in these parks and we're not going to back down and leave the parks just because it's inconvenient for the mayor to have us here. >> kerry coe -- i want to remind you these pictures on your screen are from our local affiliates there and all of these are live pictures. this is not video from earlier. but yes, it is 5:00 a.m. local time and people are still out in the streets in some sort of stand-off with police. joining me on the line right now is lieutenant robert keene with the portland police department. sir, i know it's been a busy night and this night continues for you all. we got word from the "oregonian" saying police told protesters to leave the road or face arrest. >> that's the position we're in now. earlier tonight one of our officers was injured. he was struck in the leg by some object. he's been transported to an area hospital. thankfully with non-life threatening injuries. but after following that incident, a large group of people, hundreds, maybe thousands of people, have made their way into the street and so we've taken a sort of position and established a line and there are just a large number of people that are now in the street kind of blocking the intersection. so we've been asking them to move out of the street so we can re-open the street and get the city going. but this has been going on now for hours. and we're in a position where obviously we're likely to have to act. >> lieutenant, you gave people -- at least the occupy demonstrators who were in the encampment -- until midnight, five hours ago, their local time to get out of these encampments. i understand that many of them did pack up and leave. is that true? and if so, how many actually were part of that encampment and left? >> well, a lot of people packed up and left today. that's one of the things that's di disheartening about this. hundreds, maybe thousands of people came down here tonight who have not participated in the occupy movement at all. it is just if they came down to watch a possible confrontation with police. so many people moved out complying as we asked them to. many people came down tonight and were peaceful and it's just a handful of people who were intent on a confrontation with police that ultimately has brought us to this point. >> lieutenant king, sounds like -- correct me if i'm wrong, but is it fair to say for the most part the people causing you problems this evening have not been part of the occupy demonstrations the past several weeks. we even heard one person say the bars closed at 2:00 a.m. and people just flooded out into the streets. is it fair to say troublemakers are not necessarily affiliated with the occupy movement? >> i think that's true, too, to some degree. the folks who are a part of occupy portland here in the last 35, 36 days have been engaged in non-violent protests. but tonight there is an escalation in the crowd, drums are being pounded on, people are singing, chants. it's not here we are, 4:00, 5:00 in the morning. it is not deescalating. people are not leaving as we've asked them to, it is in fact escalating and they are just becoming more and more i guess excited, unfortunately. >> lieutenant king, it is certainly good to hear that your officer is going to be om but is it fair to say for the most part peaceful this evening? >> i think tonight so far with the exception of the injury to one officer, that, yes, by and large, tonight has been peaceful. it's been peaceful in the way that the occupation here in portland has been really since it started. and so that's one of the things that we think is sort of tragic and disappointing and unfortunate. we work closely with occupy for over the last month and this was never about a confrontation with police. occupy movement here locally and around the country and around the world has been about something all together different. so for us at the end of what's been a difficult and expensive road, we think it is really unfortunate that we're in this situation where it appears as if the resolution to at least occupy here in portland is going to result in some sort of confrontation with protesters. >> and sir, as i let you go here, you said you are getting to a point where you might have to act. have you all given yourselves some kind of a deadline given the protesters who are in the streets -- or the people i should say maybe in the streets, some kind of deadline to clear out or you will have to move? >> we've not laid down a deadline. but you know, at a certain point in time, it is going to start to get daylight. people are going to start making their way around the city. so inevitably this time ultimately, either we'd like for people to leave or something along the lines of a confrontation might happen. we genuinely hope this matter resolves itself peacefully but we're genuinely concerned in light of some of the things that have happened tonight. >> lieutenant king, that night for you all actually continues right now as it is about ten minutes past the hour, 5:00 a.m. local time. sir, thank you for your time. we'll check in with you again and keep an eye on things. we will continue to watch live pictures out of portland. you are hearing there from lieutenant king. he said it is getting to a point where they're going to have to possibly act in some fashion. they've been warning people get out of the streets or face arrest. so we are standing by. he said he's hoping they don't have to come to that. seven minutes past the hour now. portland is not the only city that has been moving on some of the occupy protesters. we have seen many pictures, many scenes like this one in oakland but really all across the country. this is oakland here. some of the biggest clashes we have seen have been between police and protesters in oakland. also we've seen some similar scenes in denver. also governments -- city governments in atlanta, as well as st. louis, have made moves to tell people you've got to leave these encampments or face us coming in and forcing you out. to politics now -- but we won't go too far away from what's happening in portland. but to politics now and national security. that was the focus of last night's republican presidential debate this south carolina. eight candidates up there trying to set themselves apart in the minds of voters. we've just got two months to go now before people start voting in those iowa caucuses. i'm going to take you through some of the highlights from last evening, if you will. the issue of torture came up. torture for some, enhanced interrogation techniques for others. depends on who you ask and also the issue of waterboarding came up and the candidates clearly had different opinions. >> if i were president, i would be willing to use waterboarding. i think it was very effective. it gained information for our country. >> waterboarding is torture. we dilute ourselves down like a lot of other countries and we lose that ability to project values. >> i would return to that policy. i don't see it as torture. i see it as an enhanced interrogation technique. >> torture is illegal and by our laws it is legal by international laws. >> and i am for using the techniques not torture, but using those techniques that we know will extract the information to save young american lives and i will be for it until i die. >> meanwhile, michele bachmann's campaign are a little bothered by something that happened last night surrounding the news debate. it had nothing to do really with what she said during the debate but how much she was allowed to say. you see, there was an e-mail chain. we've had all this issue before. you accidentally hit reply all and someone who wasn't supposed to get the e-mail gets the e-mail? well, this is that situation. the e-mail was sent out by cbs' political director john dickerson. in a larger e-mail about post-debate interviews he had this to say about bachmann's role in the debate itself, and i quote, "she's not going to get many questions and she's nearly off the charts." well, he hit reply all on this e-mail and it actually went to one of michele bachmann's campaign staffers. now this is what bachmann had to say about that e-mail message. >> it was targeted to me. i don't know if it was targeted to anyone else but each of the candidates are invited to come here and each of the candidates have something to say and i have something to say about foreign policy as well and i think it is only respectful to allow the candidates to speak and not intentionally ahead of time make a decision to limit candidates' opportunity to speak to the american people. this isn't about -- this shouldn't be about media bias. clearly this was an example of media bias. this should be about an effort to get all of the information on the table. >> now, for the cbs part and dickerson's part, he says, tho, this wasn't meant for a campaign staffer but it was a private e-mail between a couple of cbs employees but still staying by what he said, essentially, hey, she's polling at 4%. of course she's not going to be the focal point of this particular debate. meanwhile, michele bachmann is using this maybe as a campaign rally, maybe as a ploy to raise a little more. much more on this and the rest of this on candy crowley's "state of the union." but now we turn to penn state. the football game that was supposed to be the beginning of a healing process. students came out to support their team and to remember the alleged vic titims of the sex ae scandal but a nice moment before the game. both teams, penn state and nebraska, their coming together before the game now in the middle of the field to say a prayer. now penn state ends up losing the game, 17-14. but that's just part of the story. mike galanos has been reporting from campus for us this weekend. mike, hello again. was the fact that penn state lost the game really the most insignificant part of the day yesterday? >> reporter: almost, t.j. almost. that's well put. because it was so much more, about so much more than football. you wonder what did everybody go through as we watched this unfold? number one, what was the alleged victim thinking? let's stop and think of that. because these alleged victims are about the same age as the students now. what were they thinking as they were watching in hopefully they found support as they were honored an remembered and over $20,000 was raised in beaver stadium behind me. you also wonder about the significant players in all this. what were they going through. penn state takes the field without joe paterno as head coach for the first time since 1966. although there was a paterno on the sidelines. his son, assistant coach jay paterno. and imagine what he has gone through this week. a son hearing his father besmirched losing his job and i think he wanted to cry out probably throughout the week and we saw a glimpse of those emotions right after the game. let's watch that. >> joe's always taught us about the blue line of practice and when you cross the blue line, the only thing you control is what you're doing right there. so we just had to imagine there was a blue line coming in to this stadium and once we were here we were focused on the task at hand and just a little short. dad, i wish you were here. we love you. >> boy, that says it all. those kind of emotions i'm sure were team wide. the players talked about how hard it was to play without their coach, joe paterno. t.j., they left bus 1, seat 1, always there for joe paterno, they left it vacant in honor of their coach. he said, hey, don't worry about me, i'll be with you in spirit. has that healing process begun? i think the $20,000 donations from beaver stadium was huge. >> mike galanos, thank you this weekend. there's also some similar soul searching going on at the citadel. university officials now admit they should have done more when allegations of inappropriate sexual conduct surfaced there a few years ago. a former cadet and camp counselor was arrested last month on charges of criminal sexual conduct and attempted lewd acts with a child. but it was back in 2007 that a red flag was raised about his conduct at the citadel. the university stopped investigating after their attorney said they couldn't confirm any acts of abuse had taken place. as we are at quarter past the hour on this cnn sunday morning, let us say good morning to our reynolds wolf. you still keeping an eye on the rockies? >> absolutely. to be honest, in light of some of the stories we've had this morning, seems very minimal. but yes, a very big storm has been rocking parts of the central rockies, talking about potential wind gusts approaching 70, maybe even surpassing 70 miles an hour. on top of that, several feet of snow. in atlanta, however, things look good. this is a great shot outside. little bit of mackerel skies out there but should be very nice, mild highs in the 70s for today. >> reynolds, thank you. talk to you again shortly. it was supposed to be a football game. but it seems like football was kind of the last thing on a lot of people's minds. we're going to go back to penn state here in a moment, talking with a leader of the student government there about yesterday's game. and if that was really a good first step to heal. when you have diabetes... your doctor will say get smart about your weight. that's why there's new glucerna hunger smart shakes. they have carb steady, with carbs that digest slowly to help minimize blood sugar spikes. 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