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kay owes in cairo. a spinning move parliament illegitimate and the military announced it was over. the same parliament egyptians have spent months voting for in their first votes ever. one tweet from a human rights activist said, egypt just witnessed the smoothest military coup. we'd be outraged if we weren't so exhausted. chaos erupted in the streets of cairo and tahrir square as people gathered. it comes just two days ahead of the presidential election. now this election pits a mubarak loyalist that the military supports against a muslim brotherhood candidate. that it doesn't. it doesn't seem to be a cowibs dense that the brotherhood was the single biggest party in the parliament dissolved today. how did america get egypt so wrong? i remember being in cairo covering the revolution not even 18 months ago. it was inspiring and it was uplifting. it was a moment i'll never forget. president obama, like so many other americans, was moved. by a revolution that toppleled a dictator who had ruled for almost 30 years. >> we can't help but hear the echoes of history. echoes from germans staring down a wall. indonesian students taking to the streets. gandhi leading his people down the path of justice. >> gandhi leading his people down the path of justice. today a far cry from when the president said that. when he said the word tahrir means liberation. this weekend's election is going ahead and the military promises it will be fair although the eurasia group tells us it is now, quote, clearly perceived to be rigged. the two candidates, ahmed shafik, the last prime minister under mubarak himself, is the military's favored candidate. and mohamed morsi is the muslim brotherhood candidate. they're powerful men invested in a status quo that can be damning. we showed you this. an egypt where eighth grade social studies today, this year, that students are learning from, teach students that, quote, treason and treachery are key attributes of jewish people. a country where 91% of women have experienced genital mutilation. a country where one young woman told me recently that islamists tried to shut down her nonprofit organization because it tried to help single women get jobs. they said, why would you do that? why would a woman be single? you're telling women to not get married. she should be at home. that's where she belongs. a country where at a rally last month for the muslim brotherhood presidential candidate, mohamed morsi, this happened. [ speaking foreign language ] >> banish the sleep from the eyes of the jews. that was the cleric that was introducing the presidential candidate mohamed morsi. now we face a volatile country in a volatile part of the world. this man has covered egypt extensively. with me along with the reporter of the american enterprise institute. in so many levels, this is, today, what happened, seems to be very tragic. how did it happen? >> airngs democratic transitions are marathons, not sprints. we supported the orange revolution in ukraine. almost a decade ago to this day. one of the champions of this is sitting in jail on a hunger strike. what happened in egypt is perceived as a setback. it's as if the last year of progress they've felt has been wiped away and this soft coup has taken place. they're exhausted, as your tweeter said, but they're going to keep the pressure on, to make sure the military doesn't completely, you know, grasp power forever. >> danielle, there's a great irony in this. the mubarak era judges and the military that were behind what happen today, their candidate, shafik, is the candidate most people would acknowledge the west and the united states wants. the west and the united states isn't really excited about the muslim brotherhood candidate. the guy who was introduced with "banish the sleep from all the eyes of the jews." i mean, this is an irony, isn't it? >> well, the irony is, you know, as i think prag said rightly that we are sitting by while egypt's revolution has been turned backwards it the biggest part of the problem is west and the arab world have all sort of averted their eyes as egypt has returned to a modicum of authoritarianism. the problem is the military has been taking back power for some time now. and everybody has been a little bit quietly applauding. >> that is the kind of dirty secret about it. the west wants the military's guy. the nondemocratic side of this in today's news to win. >> haven't we already learned the hard way when you think your guy, your man who holds power, he's actually in control, that in fact he isn't? we have to learn to play all sides and to understand that the people have a voice, that constitutions matter. the parliament is going to be very influential. whether or not it's controlled by the brotherhood. because whoever's in it is going to demand that there be a new kind of government, a separation of powers. something we should be supporting. >> danielle what should the united states do about this? because you can play this out and say there are many, obviously, some sympathetic to the muslim brotherhood today who are saying this is a disaster. this could be the first step towards egypt becoming an iran on steroids. that is obviously coming from one political side of the spectrum. how real is the risk? >> well, i think the problem is that it's not one political side of the spectrum or the other. you know, for many country, it's far more comfortable to deal with a dictator. everybody likes one-stop shopping. the problem is we really do rely on this one guy. and we continue to embrace that model. we've done very little over the last year and a half to help egypt institution build. we've done very little to help all of those people who were in the middle of tahrir square actually build political parties. the biggest failure here has been that egypt has been divided between mubarak retreads and islamists. there really isn't anybody in the middle who represents the liberal, the people who actually led part of this revolution. that's the tragedy. >> of course, that is what takes a long time, the country that's not been a democracy for -- ever, thousands of years of history. what really is the risk to the united states if this goes deeply wrong? most populous country in the arab world. if it does go -- i mean, wrong, if democracy leads you in the direction that is much more radical? >> right. it's not that it's going to taint democracy per se because we know these transitions take a very long time. obviously there is many countries, in the persian gulf for example, that will say, look how we maintained. whether this arab spring storm maintains stability and economic growth, this is a better model, something that's more technocratic -- >> what's the risk to the u.s. if it goes awry? >> already we see the tendency in the egypt foreign policy, a much harder line on israel, and it's resistant to u.s. pressure. we don't want to be overly meddling. if we're seen as supporting mubarak too much or shafik too much, that will lead to a backlash. we have to lay low. >> thanks very much to both of you. for everyone out there, it's the -- shafik, the guy who's run, the military guy, it was under him, that textbook being about treason being attributes of jewish people. and the brotherhood guy is the one saying banish the sleep from the eyes the jews. hard to see who's the good guy. still ahead "outfront," the president has a big meet ing with supporters tonight. why is he shy about it? 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why not let everybody see who's going into your event? after all, we're going to be able to see their donations on paper if we want to look that hard. >> i would challenge the premise a little bit. i think the president does allow most of his fund-raising events to be pool press, maybe not the rest of the time where he's out shaking hands or the q & a. most of them have formal remarks as pool press or at least photographers. >> we couldn't get any of the 19 celebrity ones. >> i think probably -- more eager to see george clooney and sarah jessica parker than barack obama at some of those fund-raisers. but let's look at romney. who didn't have his first open fund-raiser of any kind till may. till last month. it was the first time he had an open fund-raiser. so mitt romney has been incredibly secretive not only with fund-raisers but with his bundlers and also with his tax returns. he only let out one year. meanwhile, my last point, he met with sheldon adel son the last time he was in nevada. sheldon adelson today or yesterday, sometime this week, $10 million donation to his super pac. the president has 19 fund-raisers. raised $50 million. romney has one meeting with one billionaire, $10 million, then his super pac. i think it's a bigger deal there than sarah jessica parker. >> he had his pen out, squibble scribbling, looking very distressed. >> there was a little off the record fund-raiser obama had in 2008 at which a roort reporter for the huffington post said obama talked about voters who are bitter and cling to guns. a white house that leaks like a sieve. i could see why he would be more open. again, someone might leak from them. better to be prepared for that prospect -- >> couldn't resist, huh? leaks like a sieve? >> who knows what else is going to be said? a wonderful report which showed when you look at the small dollar folks who raised money for obama in 2008, about 90% of them have not opened their wallets this time around. so of course president obama is going to cling as tightly to celebrities as pennsylvania voters cling to their guns and religion, because needs to raise money. >> well constructed. you worked on that one, didn't you? >> that's why the pen was out, the scribbling. >> all doodles. >> politicians rely a lot on hollywood for fund-raising. i think it's true in this circle as well. wall street becomes the republican's hollywood. the irony in all this, we've only had one literal hollywood president and it was ronald reagan. >> hold on one second. let's not blow past the fact that mitt romney does not release his bundlers. barack obama does release his bundlers. romney is raising billions of dollars from this oligarch billionaires. while the president has not been able to do that with the wall street folks. the celebrities is all fun and interesting. meanwhile, these sort of shadow which businessmen who are giving money -- >> when you heard they auctioned off dinner with anna wintour, did you do a little fist pump? >> no, because i saw "devil wears prada," i admit it. >> the numbers on romney. hollywood to the president is actually more important, jamal, numberswise, than wall street is to mitt romney. that's actually not -- we'll look at the other screen, the financial industry one. mitt romney, $29.8 million. 3.4 for barack obama. the number from hollywood for obama was 51. kind of interesting, john. >> hollywood is an important export industry for the united states. >> yes, it is. >> we should respect it. >> could be our greatest export. >> absolutely. i don't think there's anything intrinsically wrong. but certainly the optics are problematic. seems as though the president enjoys spending time with his celebrity fans. and also -- when you're looking at the small dollar donors -- >> who doesn't? i mean, mitt romney -- if you got to hang out with angelina jolie -- >> when you look at the small another commentary on the state of our larger economy. you know what i mean? >> final word to jamal. >> let's just have a little perspective. hollywood did not almost tank the entire global economy in 2008 and 2009. >> just global culture and society, jamal, that's all, hey, you know. i'm kidding. i'm kidding. separate issue. >> -- wall street in 2008. >> george clooney was not responsible for, you know, taking -- >> you know president obama's happy to raise money from wall street in 2008. >> he's raising it for -- they don't really want to give it to him. >> i'll take it. >> you're running for president, you take it from almost anywhere you can get it. there's got to be somebody you'd say no to. please. still ahead, the apple number that will amaze you. and what you should know before you buy your next computer. a doctor with a military background on the run from police after his ex-girlfriend died. those running the manhunt, how they plan to catch him. 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