deal going. the tragic death of andrew breitbart, his controversial life and his tv appearance on the show two nights ago. >> just as herman cain was known as the 999 candidate, they made santorum the 666 candidate and worried about satan and all that far type of stuff. >> love him or loathe him, he always had something provocative to say and the people who knew him best pay their tributes. and only in america, feel the need, the need for speed but not for a is he kwel. why do we need top gun 2? shouldn't hollywood leave some blockbusters alone? this is "piers morgan tonight." the big story, politics, all lies on super tuesday with ten states across the country voting. this is rick santorum on his strategy for the big day. >> i said from the very beginning this is an episode of survivor. we just need to stay on the island, not get voted off, keep plugging, stay on message and have hopefully the grassroots of conservatives that support us and i think you are seeing that now. >> certainly stayed on message is ron paul. how long can he stay in the race? i will ask him in the piers morgan interview and the life and times of a man who loved controversy but died too young at 43, andrew breitbart, a regular on my particular panel and i talked to him on tuesday night. >> is it a real possibility? >> it now real clear politics, it is up to 20% when it was down in single digits before, and it will be interesting how they interpret tonight's numbers to see how they look at the polls for next week because if there is a genuine sense that mitt romney can't close the deal people are going to start getting nervous. >> we begin tonight with the big story, politics, ron paul has a steep hill to climb on super tuesday. he has 38 delegates so far and ten states voting next week and 427 delegates at stake the candidate has high hopes and dr. paul joins me now. welcome back, dr. paul. how are you? >> thank you, thank you, pierce, nice to be with you against. >> how are you feeling about super tuesday? what is your realistic aspiration for the ten states? >> well, we're working harder in, you know, a few of the states like washington and idaho and alaska and a couple others, but realistically i don't have a number. we'll just do our very best and it is a real challenge because we don't have bragging rights yet when we're running against the other republicans, but what really is encouraging is when they compare my votes against the president. if we do better than the rest of them, so that's one of the arguments the republicans used for a long time, you know, is we need somebody to beat obama, and the fact i do better doesn't seem to interesting them too much which i find interesting. >> now, you have been mr. nice guy this campaign so far. now you're getting down and dirty. here is your latest attack ad. watch this. >> one is a serial hypocrite who lobbied for freddie mac before the housing crisis, and for the individual mandate before obama care, and another a counterfeit conservative who opposing right to work, massively increased spending, and funded planned parent hood. finally, a flip flopper on all sides, supported bailouts and provided the blueprint for obama care, three men, one vision, more big government, mormon dates, less freedom. >> like a promo for mad max. serial hypocrite, the counterfeit conservative, the flip flopper. >> you know, i think your description is over the top, down and dirty, that's around for several months now. we put that out before and we wanted to resurrect it without spending more money. i think it is legitimate if somebody is all over the place and voted for big government and the other three candidates have. they have represent big government. i am challenging them so i am going to keep pointing the record out because i think republicans pretend they want limited government, and they haven't -- they don't have a good record. when you think when republicans have taken over, when we had the house and the senate and presidency, we didn't shrink the size of government and the deficit still exploded. i think i have a role to play and i would hope the republicans would come around. >> there is a theory going around that you are going easy on mitt romney and there are all sorts of potential reasons for that which i won't bore you with but is it true, are you and mitt romney in bed together? >> no. one of our ads right now challenges him for, you know, being a flip flopper, but then that is in a way -- i think you guys are desperate for news if that's the big news because there is nothing to it. i thought governor pawlenty answered it pretty well when they asked him and said, okay, was there a back room deal with mitt romney and ron paul. he says ron paul is the last guy in the world making a back room deal. now, there is nothing to that. just because you talk to somebody doesn't mean you have a deal going. so, yeah, i talk to them because we have known each other for a long time and we just disagree on policies and we do have pretty strong disagreements, you know, in the foreign policy and war on drugs and civil liberties and these things. there is definitely a difference and of course i disagree with all three because i want to actually cut some spending and that's a preposterous idea these days? >> if you are barack obama watching the attack ad who is best served to the conservatives to take on barack obama, the hypocrite, the fake or the flip flopper? >> well, i think the people that are help the best are the voters to find out whom they're voting for, if they're voting for somebody that says i am the conservative and he is really a fake, people need to know that. i mean, this pretend is hypocrisy and no doubt about it. they get away with too much over the years. people vote one-way and go home and vote liberal and washington goes home and arch conservatives and for the most part they have gotten away with it for a long time. >> the point i was getting at is i wonder how damaging it is to the republican cause come the real battle when the nominee takes on barack obama? such motive language is being drilled out on an ahourly basis in these ads. if you are barack obama, calling people hypocrites, frauds, flip floppers, it is meat and drink to the democrats. they can replay this stuff. >> well, do you think it was a love fest between hillary and obama? they after each other pretty hard and he puts her in one of the most important jobs in the cabinet, secretary of state. i would say that politicians pretty much come together sort of like a family and the old saying that you can fight with your siblings but don't let the neighbors come in. >> rick santorum had a tough week and his debate performance was one of his weakest and he was caught with a double whammy trashing a jfk speech and coming out with a line people going to college and somehow it was a snobbish policy by president obama to encourage kids to go to college. what did you make of it all? >> well, i can't interpret all of that. i don't know what he was meaning. it certainly didn't do him any favors. sometimes what your mind is thinking and you're saying things in certain context and heard a different way and certainly didn't do him much goody don't believe. >> on the assumption at the moment that mitt romney may end up being the nominee, would you serve under him if he asked you? >> well, it depends on -- he is not likely to do that. i mean, we get along and friends and we talk to each other, but to be in a position, you know, i wouldn't think that would be likely to happen. there are certain issues that i feel very, very strongly about, you know, and i have been talking about it and trying to change people's minds on it for 30 or 40 years, so if somebody was serious, a president or anybody else asked me seriously, you know, now that the monetary crisis is much worse and it is going to get worse, what do you think we ought to do, if they were honestly seeking my input, why would anybody turn that down? as far as being in that administration, i have to wait and see. maybe i will have to ask him whether he wants to help me out when i get in. >> i think you should certainly be be re reasonable doubt with aed. i know i am making an assumption you are not going to be a nominee and that may be unfair at this stage but given people seem to think it mighting mitt romney now, i would be staggered if he didn't reflect your popularity, particularly with young people on social media, the energy and drive you brought to your campaign. i mean, i think they would be mad not to use you in some serious way. >> you know, these last couple elections, you know, i was third or fourth. we didn't do all that well, but somebody just sent me a note you always look for the positive thing and almost every state i think essentially every state i always win between the 18 and 30-year-olds. i always win that. i think your point is well taken. if they're thinking about the future or the fall election, i mean, young people are very, very important, and i am the one person that can take young people away from obama, but nobody is in leadership ever comes and says, ron, what is is that the young people like about what you're doing? i think they're afraid of the answer because it might be maybe a little less war and less spending and maybe balance the budget and maybe we shouldn't be -- maybe we shouldn't be walking into people's houses without search warrants. i don't think they want to hear that. why should they write everybody off under 30? the only thing i am thinking about doing, the don't like all the laws but i am thinking to propose a law nobody ought to vote over 30 so if i could narrow it down to people could vote under 30, my number woos go up. >> let's take a little break. we'll come back and talk about two favorite topics, the fed and iran and maybe birth control as well. look, every day we're using more and more energy. the world needs more energy. where's it going to come from? ♪ that's why right here, in australia, chevron is building one of the biggest natural gas projects in the world. enough power for a city the size of singapore for 50 years. what's it going to do to the planet? natural gas is the cleanest conventional fuel there is. we've got to be smart about this. it's a smart way to go. ♪ home protector plus, from liberty mutual insurance, where the costs to both repair your home and replace your possessions are covered. and we don't just cut a check for the depreciated value -- we can actually replace your stuff with an exact or near match. plus, if your home is unfit to live in after an incident, we pay for you to stay somewhere else while it's being repaired. home protector plus, from liberty mutual insurance. because you never know what lies around the corner. to get a free quote, call... visit a local office, or go to libertymutual.com today. liberty mutual insurance. responsibility. what's your policy? you took over the fed in 2006. i have a silver ounce here, and this ounce of silver back in 2006 would buy over four gallons of gasoline. today it will buy almost 11 gallons of gasoline. that's preservation of value. why couldn't people save -- put this in a mattress and get four or five times as much of the value in a few years? >> ron paul earlier this week taking a break from the campaign trial to return to his job on capitol hill. tough questions for fed chairman ben bernanke and ron paul is back now. you really stuck it to him with the silver coin, i know controvert i believe evidence if stuck it under the mattress you would have done better with the money. >> what if you put the dollars ai with a, they lose value, the paper values lose value because if he was saying the only people concerned about inflation are only the ones that put their money in the mattress and concern the about and my point is there is a lot of people concerned and inflation rate is much higher and people on fixed incomes are hurting and the people in the middle class, they hurt a lot more with inflation of prices than do the people in wall street, you know, if you're making millions. what do they care about what the price of gasoline is? the middle class does. the people on fixed incomes do. it is very dramatic when you look at the value of money and gold and silver isn't money because i think it is money. it is there because it became money 6,000 years ago. paper money is the artificial government money and they always destroy it. this is why we're in the crisis. this is what we're facing in europe and bernanke promised we will bail out europe because our banks are involved and we are in the derivitives market and it is sovereign debt. the american people are likely to end up owning greek debt at the rate we're going, and that has to devalue the dollar, and i think that devaluation of the dollar and the increase in prices is just beginning. >> let's turn to iran. i know your views about this, and you're quite right i think to warn people about the precedent and iraq and so on and not rushing head long into more conflict and so on. let me ask you this. would you feel comfortable with ahm a.j. ad having a nuclear weapon. >> i wouldn't want that to happen. i wouldn't feel any more uncomfortable than when i was drafted in 1962 and the soviets had 30,000 of them and had a nuclear weapons in cuba. it was uncomfortable then. we used containment and worked with it and negotiated and assist ruthless as those thugs were in the soviet union, kennedy was willing to talk to them. we're not willing to talk to the iranians and they don't have a weapon. our own government has no evidence they have it or they're on the verge of having it and yet the more drums are beating hard. they're ready to go. just listen to the other three candidates. i mean, they don't hesitate for a minute to be militant and go into syria and iran and do whatever you can and our own administration should have most of the knowledge, they're trying to soften this and i got that information a little bit out of hillary yesterday before the international relations committee. >> do you understand why israel in particular feels very, very vulnerable right now with almost every country around it having the air ab you uprising and given the outspoken comment, do you understand why they would feel vulnerable and be so anxious about him having a nuclear weapon capability? >> right. that's why they should reclaim their sovereign at this rights. they can't do with theirers, either peace treaties or defend without getting permission from us but we create more problems for them because we propped up mubarak and gave him 40 or $50 million and created the blowback so al qaeda is both in libya and in egypt and as a matter of fact al qaeda is in iraq, and the al qaeda from iraq is going over into syria, so it is want helping israel. you know, panetta is not anxious to go there. none of them are saying let's go, we need to bomb these sites. i can't imagine. the only people that seem to be doing that are some of the republican candidates who seem to think that in order to look tougher than anybody else, we're ready to go, and i think that's dangerous. i think that is careless. it is inflammatory and not a good way to try to bring peace to the world. that's the way you bring war to the world. >> a final question on birth control. you obviously delivered 4,000 babies in your life. you have cared for women's health for four or five decades. did you agree with the senate's decision on not allow any exemptions to obama's birth control rule? >> the insurance business, the whole idea that the government can tell the insurance company what they should give and people now when you talk about mandating and birth control pills in insurance program, that nong longer is insurance. that's a mandate. it is an entitlement. so traditionally i remember when i first bought my first insurance policy, the question was do you want to have ob care under your policy. i said yes. they said that will cost so many more dollars each month. how can it be insurance if they don't know what they're insuring you for. to say that you have to have on this policy with no increase in pricing you are going to give out birth control pills, that becomes a welfare issue and a mandate and a cost to the insurance company. i just don't like the government in this business. i am much stronger and believe in the market works these things out because then it gets the kind of argument that we're into now. i think it is a rather silly argument about who is going to get free birth control pills. i mean, that is way beyond as far as i am concern zd dr. paul, thank you very much indeed as always. >> thank you. >> moving after break to the tragic and untimely death of conservative blogger andrew breitbart, his close friend arianna huffington leads the tributes. ♪ ♪ wow... ♪ [ female announcer ] sometimes, all you need is the smooth, creamy taste of werther's original caramel to remind you that you're someone very special. get free birth control pills. tributes. ♪ werther's original caramels. to help protect your eye health as you age... would you take it? 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