powerful allegations about murray's actions and inaction. let's go to ted rollins in los angeles. what's the latest, ted? >> well, joe, it was a compelling day in court so far. it continues this afternoon here in los angeles. all day, it has been alberto alvarez, the director of lodgistics for michael jackson and he has taken the jury inside the jackson house during those critical moments of chaos while jackson was lying on his bed. he describes the scenario where he gets a call, rushes in, sees murray in the room. sees jackson laying there with his mouth open. he also testified that murray asked him to help him collect bottles of propofol. >> i believe dr. conrad murray had the best intentions for mr. jackson, so i didn't question his authority. at the time. i knew it was a medical emergency, so i proceeded to follow mr. conrad murray's instructions. >> okay. what did you think -- when did you think these items were being packed up for? >> i thought we were packing, getting ready to go to the hospital. >> alvarez would testify that when he first walked into the room, murray told him, get an emergency response here. we need help. call an ambulance, but he said he didn't call right away. he said he reached for his phone, then was distracted by the jackson children. he detailed for the jury how he took them away because they were watching their father. he said that paris screamed out, daddy, daddy, and was crying. another one of those emotional point of the case where the jackson children were the center of attention and it made an impact not only on the jackson family, but also the jury. >> paris screamed out, daddy. >> when you heard paris scream out daddy, was she crying? >> yes, sir. dr. conrad murray said -- don't let them -- don't let them see their dad like this. don't let them see their dad like this. and i proceeded to turn around to the children and kind of ub usher them out and said, kids, don't worry, we'll take care of it. everything is going to be okay. >> and testimony continues, joe. we did see catherine jackson leave for the day, presumably. she's been the mainstay, the one family member who's been here from beginning to end, but she did leave. we know she is taking the children out of los angeles, out of the united states for a couple of weeks, going to europe in preparation for the michael jackson tribute concert scheduled in wales. joe? >> ted rollins in los angeles tonight. let's talk more about today's testimony with sanjay gupta and sanjay, as you listen to all of this, does this sound like a doctor attempting perhaps to cover his tracks or something else at work here? >> well, it's hard to say. we focused really listening closely to the whole description of the cpr, where this is a cardiologist by all accounts who was essentially performing cpr with one arm at times, one hand and on a soft bed. this sort of violates some of the most basic rules, basic things you're thought. it's not just doctors, nurse, all sorts of people learn this. whether it was someone who just panicked or whether it was somebody who already thought his patient frankly was deceased, it's hard to say. but there were a lot of mistakes that were made there and some of the ones, so basic in terms of the nature of the mistake. it's hard to comprehend. >> does it raise any questions for you as to whether the doctor actually knew how to perform cpr in the first place? >> that's an interesting point because if you listened a bit to the testimony today, which i did, they made a big point of the fact the doctor said does anywhere here know how to perform cpr. i think the prosecution was trying to make the point he didn't. that dr. murray did not know how to perform cpr. i think what you will hear, is that he was essentially asking someone else to perform cpr so that he could start doing mouth to mouth resuscitation, so it was essentially trying to find someone he could work in tandem with. i think it would be very hard to believe that he did not know how to do cardiac compressions. i think it had more to do with one of the two things i said earlier. panicking or didn't think there was anything he could do because his patient was already dead. >> as you know, there is some suggestion or a theory here that michael jackson may have injected himself with the fatal propofol. there's also testimony in evidence that michael jackson was wearing a catheter. you being a doctor, are those consistent notions? >> well, you know, i mean, i feel like i've been giving this answer a lot, joe, which is possible, but not likely. you know, this type of medication is something that certainly can be injected from what i understand. he had a what's called a port. you can sort of think about that as an indwelling iv and it is possible. i heard this particular one was in his leg area. it is possible to you know, reach down and inject medication into that, but you know, what's a little bit harder to believe, you have the catheter in part because you're laid out, unlikely to be able to get up and go to the bathroom and now saying he's doing all these other things, walking around the room. possible, joe, but not likely. >> dr. sanjay gupta, thanks so much for that. now to what's become the deadliest outbreak of food bourn illness in a decade. to stop the spread of bacteria tainted cantaloupes, but new cases of listeria keep popping up. let's bring in lisa with details. this is a very scary story and not perhaps just for people who eat cantaloupe. >> yeah, this is a huge one. and no doubt about it, there have been 13 deaths so far. this number is expected to rise. so far, most of the deaths have involved people older than 70. federal regulators are teaming up with scientists to figure out how the bacteria could have gotten into the melons, which have a thick skin, but as of now, they have few clues. the tainted cantaloupes with linked to colorado. at least 72 people have become sick. 13 deaths reported in 18 states. >> it's just been pure hell. devastating. unreal. i can't believe that a cantaloupe would make somebody that ill. >> her husband is among those clinging to life in a hospital after eating a deadly cantaloupe. the elderly, pregnant women and people with weak immune systems are the most vulnerable. symptoms include fever, muscle aches, blurred vision and diarrhea. it can be three weeks to two months from the time when someone eats the cantaloupe to when symptoms first appear. >> we've identified the source of the bad cantaloupe and we've recalled the product, but now, we might still see illnesses and even fatalities for the next month up into october. >> listeria has been linked to leli meats and cheeses, but this is the first time cantaloupe has been the source of an outbreak. >> it's a little bit of a puzzle to us where in the process it might have been contaminated. that's part of an ongoing investigation. >> so, how do you know if you have one of these cantaloupes? they would be labeled -- and you can't rely on how it tastes. >> often with a bacteria on the food, the food looks good, it tastes good. doesn't make the food smell weird. these bacteria that we're talking about, they're little stealth bombs and they will sit on the food and you wouldn't be none the wiser. >> jensen farms versus voluntarily recalled the continue lopes and again, this is really dangerous for pregnant women, newborns, the elderly and people with a compromises immune system. >> an incubation period of three weeks to two months. >> that's the thing that is stunning about this. it is possible there are people who ate this cantaloupe two weeks ago, three weeks ago and are now showing symptoms and that's why they expect the death toll to rise. >> quite a surprise, right at harvest time for americans. thank you so much. new breaks in the cloud over the u.s. economy. but if folks in the obama camp were filling up, new comments by vice president biden may be bringing them down. stand by for his latest shocker. and a look at the surprising hideout of a notorious fugitive arrested for four decades on the run. until i tried this. it's salonpas. pain relief that works at the site of pain... up to 12 hours. salonpas. ♪ ♪ co-signed her credit card -- "buy books, not beer!" ♪ but the second that she shut the door ♪ ♪ girl started blowing up their credit score ♪ ♪ she bought a pizza party for her whole dorm floor ♪ ♪ hundred pounds of makeup at the makeup store ♪ ♪ and a ticket down to spring break in mexico ♪ ♪ but her folks didn't know 'cause her folks didn't go ♪ ♪ to free-credit-score-dot-com hard times for daddy and mom. ♪ offer applies with enrollment in freecreditscore.com™. new glimmers of hope today for jobs and the economy. the number of americans filing for first time unemployment benefits fell to 391,000 last week. the lowest level in almost six months cht that's better than economists had expected and a revised estimate shows the economy grew at a 1.3% rate from april through june. that's higher than an earlier estimate, but still pretty weak. before we get to the administration's reaction, vice president biden has made a rather startling statement about the economy and who voters should blame. >> that's right, joe. this was a live interview he did with a radio station out of florida. wlrn. he was saying that the economy has gotten better, but it's not good enough, so it's not surprising who some americans are blaming. >> even though 50 something percent of the american people think the economy tanked because of the last administration, that's not relevant. what's relevant is we're in charge and right now, we're the ones in charge, and it's gotten better, but not good enough. i don't blame them for being mad. we're in charge. >> so, you can sort of argue here that vice president joe biden maybe stating the obvious. we know that a president is judged on the economy, be it good or bad, but the fact is, a person of his stature saying this is something that really gives republicans an opening. the rnc has already circulated these comments. they said it. they're admitting to owning up to the problem here, but the other thing playing here is that the president's top advisers believe that not only will the president be judged, but so, too, will congressal republicans. that's why you see the president hitting on congressional republicans and as he's characterizing them as standing in the way of the jobs plan. poll numbers stale blame president bush. in our latest cnn orc poll, those polled showed 52 compared to 32% saying it's president obama and the democrats. the comments here from the vice president kind of cutting into president obama's asergs that we've heard him make often, that he was really handed a tough situation, that the crisis happened even before he was elected. >> so, the question really is whether the administration is treating this as another one of joe biden's famous gaffes or the alternative they're sort of floating this out there to sort of change the way they talk about the economy. >> what we've heard from jay carney today is he was kind of saying it is a legitimate way to look at things, but he stressed that all politicians will be judged by their record on the economy and that's something the president's top advisers certainly believe. >> thanks so much. let's dig deeper on these new numbers with a leading economist. we're joined by mark xzandy. is this the beginning of a turn around or another false start? >> well, joe, not yet. no. i think the numbers today were good, but good in all the bad news we've been getting. the economy's still struggling. still not creating enough jobs, so i don't think we're through this yet. we've got more tough times ahead. >> and to ask it another way, a lot of people have heard so much talk about the possibility of a double dip recession. how do these new numbers play into those fears? >> they should -- they're good. they indicate the economy is not in recession, so it's not that businesses have increased their layoffs yet, but we need to see much better numbers. we need to see those initial claims moving down in a very di fintive way to suggest that businesses have started to hire again. until businesses are hiring in a more aggressive way, i don't think we can be confident that the economy's going to get through this without going into recession. we're not in recession yet. we are still growing. but we're not growing fast enough. we can't be confident we're not out of the woods yet. >> what's behind them? >> well, it shows that businesses are just extraordinarily nervous. we've been through a lot. the recession was deep and severe. businesses have been struggling to survive. people are just really shell shocked and we've gone through a series of what i would consider pretty serious policy mistakes. everything from shutting the government down in the spring to the spectacle over the debt ceiling and i think that's made people very nervous. it's not that they're pulling back. not like businesses are increasing layoffs, but they are frozen in place and you can't stay here long. either confidence revives and businesses start hiring or we're in the soup. so we need policymakers to step up and do a few things to ensure confidence moves in the right direction and the economy begins to recover. >> how long do you think it will be before we see improvement in the unemployment numbers? >> i really think it's not going to be until this time next year. i think confidence is still very weak. we need policymakers to follow through on the debt ceiling deal. we need them to extend the current payroll tax holiday. we need good things to happen in europe as well. europe has become more of a problem, so i think we've got the foreclosure issues. state and local government cutbacks. we've got a good, solid, 6, 12 months of difficult times. it really won't be until this time next year when we're going to get enough job growth to bring employment down. >> all this week, we've been talking about broken government here and you touched just a minute ago on the nervousness created by political gridlock. the notions of the possibility at least of shutting down the government. is there anything beyond nervousness we need to worry about as a result of this sort of intractability in the relationship between the white house and capitol hill? >> absolutely. in my view, the economy cannot digest the tax increases that will come next year unless policymakers act. unless congress and the administration act. and at the very least, extend the current payroll tax holiday. the president has proposed exanding it and i think that would be an prominent thing to do. if policymakers do nothing, we're going to have a problem. they've got to act and they've got to work on the dell ceiling deal. they've adpreeed to $900 billion. they've got to follow through with more deficit reduction by the end of the year to convince everyone, us and global investors, that we're serious about this and we're going to address our long-term fiscal problems, so policymakers can't standstill here. they've got to act other wise the odds of recession will be high through next year. >> we have to take a peak at the global picture. germany approved a bailout today. do you think they're making the right move? >> absolutely cht it's good news. very good news. they've got to do a lot more. there's a few other european countries that have to get this through their parliament. they've got to recapitalize their banking system. today's news was good news. they're moving in the right direction. >> thanks so much. good to see you. >> thank you. new signs that former new york mayor rudy giuliani may be getting serious about a gop presidential run. is it too late for him or anyone else to jump in the race? our strategy session is coming up negs. a potential shakeup in the gop presidential primary calendar. let's get to our strategy session. joining us is cnn political contributor and strategist, paul begala. also, republican strategist, nicole wallace. author of the new book, "it's classified." thanks for being here. let's talk primary politics and as you know, it's likely, at least, not certain, but likely that florida is going to move its primary up to january 31st, which means iowa, new hampshire, nevada and south carolina, i think i got them all in, they'll also move up very probably. what does this mean for presidential politics, republican field as it stands now? >> i spoke to two top florida republicans on my way over here and they think this is a very important move for the state. it means that florida will matter. they feel that florida determined the outcome of the republican primary four years ago when romney campaigned hard there. mccain won and they feel that was decisive. they think it's possible that coming out of iowa, you could have someone like perry win iowa, that you could have huntsman or romney win in new hampshire and that florida could be the deciding factor in the primary contest. >> it could be, but i'm worried, it's not my problem. they'll keep cascading forward and so we'll have iowa like during thanksgiving, when texas is playing texas a&m. i do think the party needs a strong chairman. in this case, this guy rhymes with the unpronounceable name. howard dean did that in my party the last time around and it worked. >> florida actually did this and got penalized. >> but i think the argument they make is that florida is much more representative of the country. it has ten media markets. there is a need to campaign for the hispanic vote. you have to understand the separate issues the cubans care about. it is a state where if you can win in florida is a more meaningful victory. >> who gets the advantage between perry say and romney? who's going to benefit the most? >> i think those guys are in the one category of the kind of benefit because it takes money to campaign in the state with ten media markets. >> what you're talking about is perhaps the potential of others getting in. >> with money, they'd be okay, but the losers, the jon huntsmans hoping to ride a come from behind victory in new jersey or santorum who was hoping for some miracle. >> the movement candidates who have been more interesting and dynamic than the establishment candidates. ron paul, michele bachmann, herman cain, have won important early tests and nobody in the establishment saw them coming. >> that's fair. >> let's talk about the democrats. all right. and we have been sort of tracking this notion of lack of enthusiasm among democratic voters. and one thing that seems pretty clear if you look at this gallup poll from september 15th through the 18th, we asked are you more enthusiastic than usual and now, 45% in 2008, 79%. what on earth are the democrats going to do especially among african-americans to get some excitement? >> young people, african-americans, latinos, single women. it's the heart of the democratic party. that's a catastrophic number. if you go from 79% of your folks as we used to say for president obama, fired up and ready to go, down to 45%. the president and his team, myself, all the democrats, we've got to work at billing that back up. there's some anecdotaal information that it's moving. the president turned the corner with that job speech. if he's out there fight iing fo the middle class, i think he will fire up his troops and they'll be ready to go again, but that is really troubling poll number. >> the problem with the gap on either side is that there are certain people that always vote. the behavioral voters, but that's not how obama won. the extraordinary story of the obama victory was that he brought all these new voters to the table. that was why he won, so he will certainly bring back the democrats who are not going to vote republican no matter who it is. the coalition that delivered him the white house is not there for hi