sure, the com center and the tip line in there. there's astronomical amount of resources being used across our community. not everybody is in marked police cars or in full uniform, but there was a lot of resources from across new england that was here, including helicopters, moments after i arrived on scene and we used every resource that was available and every gentleman asked me how long are you going to search for, do you expect to find him. every officer wasn't going home until we found the individual. (inau (inaudible) >> by friday, when? >> maine recycling was cleared, it was cleared on thursday and then we -- my officers, trying to think, had like three hours sleep over the course of a few days, but it was about, it was in the middle of the night. i would say it's 2:30, 3:00 in the morning my officer found it and then we activated everybody to go to that area and got other resources. i was in constant contact with state police tactical team throughout this and constant contact with lieutenant keaton from the state police, an outstanding job, from the maine state police, outstanding job. my hat is off to the state police because direct communication to me my cell phone was great. and everybody standing from behind the level, federal, homeland security, a.t.f. there was boots on the ground assisting our agency. we had a common goal to find him, it took two days, but we found him and everybody could sleep good last night. >> and on thursday, to after midnight on friday? >> i can't remember. it would have been-- yeah, i could narrow down the timeline, i don't want to give you the wrong timeline. it was in the middle of the night when they found them. yeah, that would be about right. >> and business owner called you? >> the business owner called our agency and we ended up speaking to him and i followed up with him and i have spoken to him, yes, correct. he did reach out to us with that information correct. >> what time was that. >> the search the trailer-- >> he's got an overflow lot of crush plastic and metals, it's not empty trailer. i'm not going to get into more details on that. realistically right now we should be thinking about the victims, you know, that we also should be, you know, the suspect's family as well. were very forth coming to law enforcement. we have our national news and media partners here and this tragic event that happened, hats off to chief st. pierre and his agency, but right now, we want maine to be remembered as the community that came together after this tragic event. i was on my way in this morning to this press conference and driving through lisbon and i see people walking the streets, people sitting on their porches and people waving, thumbs up. that's what community is all about, so, i'd say, i'm not going to say too much more at this point, but put it back over to him, but moving forward just thinking about the victims, thanks. >> tell us if there are any individual plans over the next couple of days and also, students be going back to school starting on monday, additional resources there and is there going to be heightened security presence? >> one at a time. >> all right, so, first, to answer your questions about vill vigils,one there's a candlelight vigil in lisbon to the victims remembered tragically killed in lewiston. >> i'm in communication with the superintendent of schools and don't have an answer yet and what was the other question. >> the other question, is there going to be security presence? >> yes, we have multiple extra officers on, yes. >> (inaudible) how are you all doing and what resources are going to be made available, if any, for the people who were working on this case for days on end? >> i can tell you that personally, i can speak only for myself, but maine, as well as every crisis department has been reached out and lisbon police department was heavily involved as soon as it happened to assist lewiston on the scene and i want assistance, and nobody in my department wanted to go home until we found that individual and pretty much had to force them to go home and take a nap. >> chief, could you describe when the officers opened the door of that trailer and how did they make the positive identification? . i wouldn't be able to comment on that and weren't involved in the trailer. >> i appreciate that, the maine state police tactical teams are the ones that located this individual and again, because of the appearance, the facial hair, the clothing, the circumstances, they were communicating back to major crimes, who was communicating with the attorney general's office and medical examiner's office and what are we comfortable with in order to i.d. this individual positively and say-- so we could say that this individual was found and he passed away. that part of the identification process is pretty standard and that's the process that we followed here. as soon as we knew that, the very first call that we made was to chief st. pierre to notify time and the next level could occur. one more question, from you. >> i understand there was no forceable-- can you tell us anything you know about what he may have. >> so the question, is stating there's no forceable commitments. did we know of anything on the voluntary side? i know we're seeking records and trying to determine if in fact that happened, what did it look like. there are reports out there that it did involve the military, his military unit. we don't have ready access to that documentation. so, we're following up on that like we would with everything else, but i really, really do appreciate everybody's time, your patience, your professionalism. thank you for taking care of our community. take care. >> thank you. neil: all right. a lot we learned, a lot we didn't learn right now. we do know this and that's the big takeaway from this roughly one hour long press conference, robert card his body was found near a river about 10 miles in maine from lewiston where the shootings occurred. you might have the inned and this is typical in these type incident where you see a sign language interpreter and translator repeating what the commissioner is saying, in this case it's especially germane since four of the victims were from maine's close knit deaf community many of whom knew mr. card personally. we don't know the overall connection to him, but four from that deaf community were among the 18 victims. we're told that card was found in a trailer with two weapons on him and one long gun found in his car, which wasn't far from the site. it the long gun, they suspect might have been the weapon used in these attacks. no indication as to when he might have shot himself. that appears to be what happened. at that point almost 48 hours when they found his body late last night so it could have been anytime within that period. we should also say that a note was left behind, whether you want to call it a classic suicide note is in the eyes of the beholder, this to his son identifies things like a password to his cell phone so the son could open it up and find out what's in there, as well as bank accounts numbers, that sort of thing. maybe not your classic suicide note in that sense. we're told as well that there was no clear motive, at least at this point, no sign had given some of his anguish and some of the problems, he was hearing voices. you heard a great deal about that, that he was not forcibly committed to a treatment center. there's no note, no indication, no correspondence thus far that could indicate that that was pushed to the point of saying, all right, you've got to get some mental health here. and most of the time this is done on a voluntary basis and it could have been that case with robert card. we simply don't know. bill daley joining us again. thanks for your patience. what did you make from this? >> as you mentioned there are a lot of unanswered questions, what created this kind of nexus for him to carry out these sort of crimes. you hear bits and pieces of him losing his job and a personal life perhaps in disarray and those converge in addition to his earlier mental health issues that were-- came about this past summer to his reserve unit. you know, what i also-- i did learn is that he did purchase weapons murray recently. the a.t.f. representative spoke about that. he had a number of weapons that he owned, but he did purchase several more recently, whether that was in preparation for this-- these murders or what was driving that per se. i would like to say, neil, is that i don't know if you took away as well, throughout this process i do want to say the way they presented it, the press conferences and communications i think from a crisis management perspective, they did a very good job. as forth coming as they could, as was mentioned during the course of the debriefing at times they can't because there's a potential prosecution, if the person is found alive, and make sure to maintain the integrity of the investigation and not say things that later on may, in fact, cause any type of unravelling of the prosecution. so, i think kudos to them for that, certainly all of these law enforcement agencies working together coming together, interstate, intra and interstate, you know, mutual aid resources. quite impressive and i think as a country we need to be proud of all of those working in addition to the federal resources they got. yeah, neil, a tragedy. and over a period of time information will trickle out, whether unfortunately, get lost from the headlines, but more learned what was going on that may have precipitated this and as we started off at the beginning of the program talking about those things that maybe we want to consider to try to get ahead of these. you're never going to get ahead of all of them, but were there things, trip wires that perhaps weren't actually acted upon or didn't actually trip. neil: and nor do we know, bill, how and why he targeted the people he did and whether they were all targets. there were reports, and again, this did not come up in the commissioner's presser here, that at least one or two individuals were shot multiple times, and normally that that indicates, you know, an intent to kill that person. not all the time, but, what do you think? >> there are some reports, again, these are reports and don't know how confirmed they are, particularly in the bowling alleys that people tried to, tried to intercede and tried to stop him and they may have been shot, and we don't know whether the location health that importance to him, did he expect someone to be there or did it have relevance to him and what he thought was the reason why he was in the particular state he found himself in psychologically, mentally, and was he just acting out against the location or the people there? and the same thing with the bar, the restaurant. you know, what did that hold personally for him? was it a place where he had met, you know, a girlfriend in the past or they had broken up. or was there other people there he thought were probably maybe behind him losing his job. you don't know. there are so many factors here they're not going to be written down or not going to be things that are kind of stated out in front. it going to have to be discerned from perhaps some of the people who knew him and be able to kind of piece this jigsaw puzzle together. >> part of that jigsaw puzzle, it appears he appears to have no social media of any record, any depth, i'm referring to robert card, the suspect behind these killings. and what we've seen in the couple last mass shootings, there is no social media indication and he has kept to himself or to herself. not across the board, but that makes things trickier when it comes to a motive? doesn't it? >> and we tend to rely on that and social media is the backbone the way that people present themselves to the outside world. so many people, whether because of their backgrounds, whether the type of work they do, they've found themselves in a need to actually participate in those, never mind a generational element and people get much older aren't as active as much younger people. i don't know if that's really an indication that would suggest that people who, you know, were planning this or didn't want to have a social media presence, i think it's a matter of either the demographic issues of kind of age or their position in society, whether or not that really plays into what they-- who they are and how they want to be seen. so, i think it's an interesting point, but i don't think in in point, in this particular case, it actually is relevant to whether or not he was-- whether he was planning any of these murders ahead of time. >> bill daly, thank you very much for sticking around for that press conference and appreciate your expertise and don't relish the circumstances we invariably meet. bill, thank you again. right now very important person to talk to on this and knows the state of maine because he ran the state of maine, former governor paul lepage. these are rare events and my condolences to you and the mainers, this is unusual. with 18 killed here, close to all who were killed in shootings in all of maine last year. what do you make of it all? >> it's a terrible, terrible situation. i was in lewiston all yesterday and actually i was at a wake, and some of the families of the victims were coming in to make arrangements to bury their loved ones, so it was a real sad day. it's-- you can't explain it. it's really, really sad that this gentleman, whom -- you know, there's a mental health element to this and maine has a yellow flag law and so i think i would recommend that a complete investigation go on because he was, as i understand it, was in a hospital, a military hospital in new york. he got released to come back to maine. i don't know if it was voluntary or involuntary. i think that needs to be identified. i think that's very, very critical. you know, if the law is in place and there's mental health issues, we have to deal with that, this country. it's very, very critical issue that we face and most of these mass murders involve mental illness. so it's an issue that we seem to ignore and we've been ignoring it now for like 20 years, 25 years and i think it's time that we take a hard, hard look at mental illness. neil: you know, governor, you were mentioning these yellow flag laws and different people have different interpretations of the laws. in the case of robert card if he was getting psychological help and they were screening him for potential problems, one report has the potential for violence. a yellow flag would allow authorities to take his guns or maybe you can explain what happens or what the maine law is on that. >> yeah, the maine law, what it does, is if a person is in-- being held by police officers or in this case, the dod who represented that he go to the military hospital, it's my understanding he threatened some violence against some people in his unit, back in the summer, i believe, and if that's the case, it's very important to know whether or not he went voluntarily or involuntary or and that's where the rub is. i think we need to investigate whether they-- he involuntarily went or he voluntarily went. i think that's critical to the maine law. if it's involuntary, then there's a process and the medical practitioner and the dod, the person who forced the involuntary has to notify the state of maine, at which time, they have a hearing and they take his firearms away. that never happened. so i don't know for sure, and i think it needs to be investigated whether it was voluntary or involuntary. neil: you know, a lot of people, particularly in your state, it's a beautiful state. i've been to maine many, many times. and people will think twice, well, if can happen here and a community never experienced anything like this does, and there are many more communities that are, invariably the question comes up, is it toughening up our gun laws, is it a matter of toughening up who gets guns? and i suspect sadly this will not be the last incident? . before we have a discussion about gun laws and take, you know, firearms away from law abiding citizens and making criminals out of them. because they bought when they were legal and gun control they make you a criminal. before we do that, we need to evaluate a lot of these mass murders and see what, what correlation it has to mental illness and i believe that the whole discussion with gun control has to involve mental illness. and if we don't, we're not doing a service to the american pe people. neil: so in other words, control who gets the guns, not necessarily american's second amendment right to have guns. that has been tried and there are books right now, laws on the books to enforce that, but it doesn't seem -- i don't know how it goes in maine, sir, so my apologies -- that that is consistently enforced or even is? >> well, this is the whole point. mental health is in an absolute state of chaos in this entire country. when i was governor-- i'll give you a quick story. when i was governor a gentleman -- if you have domestic violence on a friday, you're incarcerated until monday because you have to go in front of a judge. so, this gentleman on the weekend, once he sobered up called his significant other and said if you go to court on monday, i'll kill you. of course, it was taped. and he made bail. he never should have made bail. but he did make bail and that's an unfortunate situation. now, i, when i heard the old issue of domestic violence, i called the chief justice and we took care of that problem and it can't happen again. but these are the type of things that have to be dealt with and we always run to the gun and we're going to take guns away from law abiding americans who need them in times to defend themselves against these perpetrators. we just need to do the right thing and deal-- got to be part of the whole-- >> governor lepage. i'm sorry for the delay. thank you, former governor paul lepage. to button up the story, they're planning a candlelight vigil in maine. sadly, this, too, plays out in community after community, victims of this type of violence. the message from the commissioner is that it's good to go out again, good to be out on the street again, good to live your life again and for hunting to resume in maine now that this killer is dead. we'll keep you posted on that. meanwhile, focusing on developments in the rest of the world concerning israel and the ongoing war in the gaza strip right now, we don't have an actual ground invasion happening yet, but certainly ground attacks and surgical ground attacks going on there. that's already elicited global protest and rallies pretty much among the major capitals in the planet and one going on, i believe this is in rome. we also had one earlier today in paris. we were seeing one last night in new york. there have been many in lisbon, in portugal. and again, most of these are pro-palestinian rallies. this looks like a pro-palestinian one there, a huge one happening in turkey just wrapping up a short time ago. the turkish president erdogan had already said that he find the behavior of the israelis borderline a state of madness and that we cannot let them go through with the raid in the gaza. let's get the latest from mike tobin who has been following all of this very closely, actually in israel, in southern israel. what can you tell us, mike? >> well, neil, keep an eye on the skyline behind me, because over the last 15, 20 minutes it's been flashing with big air strikes going into the gaza strip as the defense minister said, the earth in gaza shook as the ground offensive expanded into gaza, but this does not constitute the invasion that everyone was looking for, anticipating, i should say. israeli tanks, armor, infantry, combat engineers have been on the ground in gaza really for about a 24-hour period. israel claimed they hit some 150 und