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nine justices are gonna be on that case. of course, there is no nothing new for donald trump to say things about judges. he's been doing that for years. he's been doing it in some of the other cases that have been coming out recently. sometimes in ways that, you know, in a typical case would get people into trouble. potentially be held in contempt of court. and that's just kind of the norm when it comes to donald trump it seems. i think, in legal circles, it's frowned upon to do this kind of thing. but he's done it before. and i'm sure he'll continue doing. it the supreme court the justices don't like it. the father probably not gonna say anything about it or do anything about it. >> that interesting perspective. you know, you're probably right, lawrence, thanks so much for that. kristie, i'd like to stay with me, we're going to talk about donald trump's other fights, including the questions about his immunity, that will come up later on this hour. right now, the final push is on four gop candidates in iowa, with just nine days until the caucuses. it is a mad dash to try to
instead, they just said they're gonna hear donald trump's appeal. and his appeal is basically a whole host of arguments throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks. including whether the president is even covered by this provision of the 14th amendment that barr is people who engaged in insurrection from serving in the government. also, who gets to decide, even if they think that someone did engage in insurrection? who gets to decide that? and can you allow the colorado supreme court to do that? >> okay, to you, kristie, the colorado supreme court found that trump engaged in insurrection. so can the supreme court overrule that finding of fact? >> so, i don't think that's where they're going to go. i don't think they're going to get into the weeds of whether or not trump engaged in insurrection. i think that the supreme court is likely to keep trump on the ballot. i just, that's my prediction. i'm not saying that's what they should do, i think that's what they will do. and i think it's going to be on
including filing a witness list. that will happen on february 19th. so, kristie, the filing that annoyed trump was jack smith asking judge tanya chutkan to prevent him from quote, raising a relevant political issues or arguments in front of the jury. was that unusual? i'm curious how you rationalize it. what are chances jack smith could still face contempt charges? >> so, the motion that was filed by jack smith's team is a standard motion. it's called a motion illuminate. it's to exclude certain evidence from being before the jury, as opposed to arguments before the court. one of the arguments that donald trump has made is a motion to dismiss on the basis of it be vindictive prosecution. that this is the in justice department. this is the biden indictment. that is an issue for the court to decide. that is not an issue that goes towards his guilt or innocence on the criminal charges. it's not a defense that the jury would be permitted to
the state electoral code really isn't made to be able to deal with questions like whether or not an individual engaged in an insurrection. so, i think on a technical issue like that, a due process concern, i think that's where you're going to see the supreme court go. >> so, lawrence, kristie just mentions timing. but in this instance, the schedule is being described as lightning-fast for the supreme court. what can you tell us about the meline, and you read anything to how quickly they are trying to expedite this? >> that's right. clearly, quickly they scheduled arguments for february 8th, just a few weeks ago. to go, i mean. they took up another case yesterday, just as a comparison in an abortion case from idaho. they're not gonna hear arguments in that until april. with a ruling by the end of june, when they normally finish up. this case of the colorado case, i'm sure they're gonna decide it quickly. after hearing the arguments so soon. they probably want to have an eye on the calendar, because obviously there's a lot of
primaries coming up. and they want to get a decision out before. so whenever the court says there will be applied, not just in colorado, but potentially in other states if they do reach a more sweeping ruling that addresses the constitutional issue. >> yeah. i should, say we'll be talking about that idaho abortion case now in front of the supreme court in the next hour. colorado, kristie, is one of a growing number of states that are challenging trump's eligibility. maine secretary of state, we all know kicked him off the primary ballot. and then this week, the challenges were filed an illinois, massachusetts. will the supreme court ruling, however it goes, will the ruling on colorado, does that affect the efforts to keep trump off the ballot in other states? i mean, the ruling, is that really good going to be a blanket decision for all 50 states? >> so, i think the supreme court is going to look to having a narrow decision, but in terms of dealing with these particular circumstances, these facts of whether or not the
pretrial motions challenging his charges in georgia. tuesday, he plans to be in d.c. when the circuit court of appeals hears his claims of immunity on january six related charges. the, two days later, closing arguments will begin in his new york civil fraud trial. and there might be in new york on january 16th, for the e. jean carroll defamation trial. christopher greenberg is back with me with a lot on her plate discuss. so, here we go, kristie. tuesdays immunity hearing, that one is potentially the most significant, because the political, legal implications are huge. and trump claims he enjoys presidential i'm unity for actions performed within the quote, outer perimeter of his official responsibility. how far do you think he can get with this argument, and what do you expect to see, if he shows up on court tuesday? >> so, donald trump's argument is a loser. but d.c. court of appeals is not going to find that he has absolute immunity from federal criminal prosecution, or that
>> i think it's probably too hastily for a lot of people. but for those who will be up to do something tactically, i don't know if it will stop trump, but you know, it could help extend the primary. if haley somehow can win new hampshire, or at least get it down to a two person race, you know, i think when you look out in the rest of the states, trump is clearly a dominant favorite. but in the two person race, there's a few of republicans who are open to an alternative, if she is the only one. so, i think for liberals, or democrats, or independents who might not ever support nikki haley to be the president, to cast a strategic or tactical vote to me makes a lot of sense. you know, again, the bridge is too far probably for some people but it can make a lot of sense as we get deeper into this. if the cards fall the right way, if somehow she can finish ahead of, you know, desantis in iowa, i think that makes it more likely. maybe kristie drops out. but you see in new hampshire, you know, trump may be close to a ceiling in new hampshire. if you got that to two person race, it could very well be defeated there. >> i mean, i think, i sort of alternate between these two poles when i think about this and now we are in election year. we are here. it's a few weeks away. one is that, if you look at all traditional metrics and data, trump is just an overwhelming favorite. there is no historical precedent for someone with a commanding lead not getting the nomination. and so, there is that, which seems like, yes, he is ghosting. at the same time, you know, the future is unwritten. crazy things happen, god knows
favorite. but in the two person race, there's a few of republicans who are open to an alternative, if she is the only one. so, i think for liberals, or democrats, or independents who might not ever support nikki haley to be the president, to cast a strategic or tactical vote to me makes a lot of sense. you know, again, the bridge is too far probably for some people but it can make a lot of sense as we get deeper into this. if the cards fall the right way, if somehow she can finish ahead of, you know, desantis in iowa, i think that makes it more likely. maybe kristie drops out. but you see in new hampshire, you know, trump may be close to a ceiling in new hampshire. if you got that to two person race, it could very well be defeated there. >> i mean, i think, i sort of alternate between these two poles when i think about this and now we are in election year. we are here. it's a few weeks away. one is that, if you look at all traditional metrics and data, trump is just an overwhelming favorite. there is no historical precedent for someone with a commanding lead not getting the
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12 other service members at the kabul airport back in 2021. in a statement, fox said, quote, now unpublished story has been addressed internally, and we sincerely apologize to the guy family. that apology comes after a report on military.com which drew attention to the story. it also indicated that fox's top top executives had peter-levi notified by senior members of the green accord that it was publishing a fabricated story. i want to bring in now the mother-in-law of fallen marine sergeant nicole gee, christine shambling. kristie, thank you very much for being here. just help me understand this, first of all, did you hear from fox directly? and are you satisfied with what they said about what happened here? >> yes, i heard from folks directly and we spoke with them. >> what did you hear from? >> i couldn't tell you, i'm so sorry. >> these things aren't common for me.