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should be -- that people should be cared for. we should take care of people. you would do it in your community. i do it in mine. whatever that happens to be. and once you get people to a point where they understand the shared values that you have, then you can have the political conversation. but the only way this works fundamentally is it has to be changed from the bottom up, not from the top down. and the bottom up starts with us in our relationships, in our families, in our communities, in a truthful, kind but truthful way. we have to have those conversations. >> matt, you're right. and we appreciate that. thank you very much for that. eddie, always good to see you, my friend. thank you for both starting us off this hour. mara's going to stick around. when we return, donald trump once again mocking the late senator john mccain during a campaign stop in iowa. it's part of a long pattern by the disgraced ex-president to belittle and disparage america's military heroes. and it was met with a stinging rebuke by mccain's daughter. we'll talk about that next.
frail and cognitively he's out to lunch. why can't democrats just admit that simple truth? >> well, because he's the candidate, number one, that they deem capable of beating donald trump, which he's already proven, whether people want to admit that or not that's number one. number two i'm not going to label our president in those derogatory fashions i will say that. >> sean: i'm not asking for derogatory comments. do you think -- >> i didn't say you were. >> sean: do you think he's a cognitive mess. >> i'm not going to say -- i'm not going there. i'm saying there's an abundance of people that can do better and i hate the fact in 2023 we have a bunch of liberal candidates out there that think he's the guy and i'm like what the hell is wrong with you. >> sean: you are known for being straightforward blunt truthful and honest. >> i am. >> sean: and you can't speak the obvious that joe biden's a cognitive mess? of course he's a cognitive mess. >> i'm not going to label --
and hell, i'd call fox honest, fair, and truthful, then i could be sued for defamation. >> got some good lines. the president also poked fun at himself and his age. >> look, i get that age is completely reasonable issue. you might think i don't like rupert murdoch. that's simply not true. how could i dislike a guy who makes me look like harry styles? call me old. i call it being seasoned. you say i'm ancient. i say i'm wise. you say i'm over the hill. don lemon would say that's a man in his prime. >> biden also struck a serious note, giving a special shout out to brittney griner and her wife
lawyer ought to be, who the right lawyer would be, a woman named robbie kaplan, who is a good friend of mine, who is famous for having litigated the defense of marriage act case and having won it in the supreme court. she's just a tremendously talented litigator, and i just thought, well, no one is going to give ms. carroll better advice than robbie kaplan, and no one's going to be able to suss out the details of this case and figure out whether it's a case that should be brought than robbie. and the next day, i somehow -- i connected them together, and then the next, you know, months later apparently they determined to bring suit, and they did. >> and you think -- >> and that's where we are today. >> and you think this could be serious trouble for donald trump? >> it could be. i mean, look, i don't want to predict what juries will do. i believe e. jean carroll. i believe -- i've gotten to know her. i think she's a truthful and wonderful person, a kind person. she's somebody who doesn't say a
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listen but you can't alter. if i know someone i know was going to be written about a might call them up and say, by the way, you know, there is no dodging this. i'm just going to let you know. i think straightforward, you are candid and your truthful and you are accurate, what people don't like is people not having the courage to face what is going to happen and i stand by what we have written. has it cost friendships? i'm sure it has at times. i think the previous but one prime minister probably wasn't over pleased by the coverage in the daily mail over partygate and wallpaper gate? those investigations which held power to account. we looked at patterson, the way in which the judicial system ofjustice in parliament was going to be ignored. there are vehement against that. i'd make it a go increasingly critical position, was that a deliberate
>> i'm confident that this is being dealt with internally well before this moves forward -- there's a presumption that this grand jury investigation sort of started again. with an ongoing investigation -- it didn't just come out of nowhere. but of course, there will be the use of the political a sword to slay the dragon. but that is not a fair conclusion at all. ultimately, whether it goes to a jury if he is indicted, the people, all of us, we'll listen to the evidence and make the determination on our own, is this politically motivated? to argue that it is politically motivated because of the parties, we can turn it around and say there is an indictment or investigation in north carolina or -- against a democrat -- this would need to be something that is politically motivated. that is not fair. but you better believe any officer needs to take that -- to make sure it is very clear that this is above board and a truthful, just investigation.
grand jury investigation sort of started again. with an ongoing investigation -- it didn't just come out of nowhere. but of course, there will be the use of the political a sword to slay the dragon. but that is not a fair conclusion at all. ultimately, whether it goes to a jury if he is indicted, the people, all of us, we'll listen to the evidence and make the determination on our own, is this politically motivated? to argue that it is politically motivated because of the parties, we can turn it around and say there is an indictment or investigation in north carolina or -- against a democrat -- this would need to be something that is politically motivated. that is not fair. but you better believe any officer needs to take that -- to make sure it is very clear that this is above board and a truthful, just investigation. >> jeremy saland, thank you so much for your expertise. still ahead, republicans push to normalize extramarital hush money payments. -- congressman ruben gallego has a democratic response next.
alleged hush money payment made to adult film star stormy daniels. >> at least one more witness is expected to testify in the probe which could delay the indictment. attorney is expected to here from the legal attorney for michael cohen. >> and could testify to offer a rebuttal. >> every single thing that i have said so far has been, first of all, found to be accurate and truthful, but more importantly, corroborated by others, as well as the existence of documentary evidence within which to prove the statements that were made were in fact accurate and truthful. >> legal experts say costello's testimony may that help trump's case. that could be an ethical issue due to the attorney/client privilege. >> it's a very dicey ethical