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The Source With Kaitlan Collins

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Morning Joe Weekend

amazing? it totally wins my case, you know. except it is, like, highly confidential. >> yeah. >> by the way, isn't that? incredible >> yeah. >> i was just saying, because we were talking about it. and he said, he wanted to attack iran and what -- >> these are the papers. >> you did. >> this was done by the military and given to me. i don't know. i think we can probably, right? >> i don't know, we will have to see. yeah, we'll have to try to figure out a -- >> declassify it. see, as president i could have declassified it, now i can't, you know? but this is still a secret. >> that is a problem. >> that's an audio of the meeting at bedminster, new jersey. until now with the new superseding indictment, trump is now charged with 40 counts in the classified documents case. he and walt nauta have pleaded not guilty to their previous charges. a lawyer for de oliveira, the property manager, declined to comment. a trial date is tentatively set for may 20th, 2024. so chuck rosenberg, we all were waiting yesterday perhaps to

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The Source With Kaitlan Collins

footage that would be possibly inculpatory. so being on notice for several months, really the better part of the year that there are documents that we'd like to you return, and here it is. remember, the attorney, evan corcoran, who everyone thought, oh my god, the federal judge is saying the attorney/client privilege is going to be pierced under the crime fraud exception because you're trying to use your relationship trying to hide something? we thought that would be the ultimate moment. turns out that attorney was so duped by this orchestration and allegations as laid out here of some greater plan to hide everything even from them. >> and they wanted him to lie to a grand jury, it says in here. it says trump and walt and carlos all conspired to keep the classified documents and conceal them from a federal grand jury. >> and their own lawyer, and conceal it from his lawyer who obviously dictated contemporaneous note about every single thing that was going on,

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The Source With Kaitlan Collins

they said trump and walt and carlos all conspired to keep the classified documents and conceal them from a federal grand jury. >> and their own lawyer. you know, conceal it from his lawyer. who, obviously, dictated contemporaneously notes, about every single thing that was going on, that's very damaging to donald trump as well. he was apparently lying to his own legal counsel. >> i'm sure, one interesting thing that we're describes, where carlos de oliveira talks to trump, and tells him that he's gonna hire a lawyer for him next. >> that's going next. >> to me, that's fascinating. again, you can imagine, at a trial, the prosecutors are gonna present evidence that shows the former president is using this practice, which is to pay for the lawyers of these people, to try to keep them on the team. so, what they have here is signal encrypted messages,

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FOX and Friends

deal on what you know will stick. i don't know that president trump has any inclination to make any kind of plea deal. i think that he believes and it looks like his best opportunity here is to win the presidency. >> ainsley: yeah. i mean, this is the two guys that work for him. the two aides that have been indicted. one worked for trump for 20 years beginning as a car valet and becoming a property manager in january of 2022. he weighs indicted alongside the president. so then you have two different guys. there is walt into the that and carlos day alli vary row. >> they were car valets. they worked their ways unin the ranks was at the white house and asking karine jean-pierre does this mean that the president will exonerate his son by pardoning him?

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Andrea Mitchell Reports

prosecutors say they do not oppose trump and walt nauta waving the new charges. >> these people, these are thugs. jack smith is deranged. he is a prosecutor who has been overturned unanimously in the supreme court. vicious tactics. they went after two fine employees yesterday, fine people. i don't think they think the tapes were changed. these were my tapes we gave to them. >> joining me now is garrett haake, covering the trump campaign, of course, former fbi general counsel andrew weissmann, former u.s. attorney, harry litman and former district attorney of manhattan catherine christian. you don't get rid of surveillance tapes if you didn't do anything wrong. what is the most damning of the new charges? >> i think that the additional

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Inside Politics With Dana Bash

that, but obviously he has had extensive legal problems on not only related to former president trump but also related to his own business dealings. yes, of course, if you flip, you are going to lose your lawyer that is paid for by a trump-affiliated political action committee. but these two gentlemen need to assess their own situations, assess the fact that the former president could become the president once again, potentially make this go away. they need to look at their situation carefully, because neither one of these men is going to have the resources to go up against the justice department on their own. but former president trump, he has two jobs right now. one, he wants to get re-elected to the white house. and the second it to keep walt nauta and carlos de oliveira very close. and i am told that he has learned a lot from what happened with michael cohen. i am told by people close to him that he's gotten a lot better about keeping people that could potentially be very helpful to investigators closer to the fold. they pressured walt, he didn't flip. they pressured carlos. he didn't flip. let's see what happens. >> that does not sound like the

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The Lead With Jake Tapper

valet and assistant and another person that's because they can see that on nauta's phone billing and they can see that on the other persons and they know when they've spoken and how long. in other cases they have text messages going back and forth where they see content unlike where they just see times. and other cases they have videotape of boxes being moved. remarkably in that june 24th time line you have the attorney talks to trump and says, you know, we're going to turn over these boxes. trump knows that other boxes have been moved at this point. he talks to walt nauta and says i'm going to bedminster, you stay behind, and walt then meet with the head of maintenance to look for this tunnel that leads to where the documents are hidden. and the cameras in the tunnel, and, you know, they have video of them with flashlights allegedly in the tunnel spotting the cameras. and what's the next thing that

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The Source With Kaitlan Collins

a world of legal trouble essentially, not just from -- this georgia defamation case. >> yeah. we will have to see how this play into the legal jeopardy that he really does face. but it does raise the prospect that giuliani and perhaps a lot of other people who are embroiled in the january 6th investigation of the special counsel is doing, but also the georgia case that -- has yet to come to a conclusion -- these cases are going to be time intensive, and extremely expensive. it is not easy to carry that legal burden. the former president can have his super pac or his pack pay for the legal costs. other people involved in this, whether they are people like giuliani or people like what walt nada nauta -- if you are giuliani, it probably wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to try to take some of the potential legal exposure off the table. but i am not sure that we can say that just yet, especially considering we don't really know the scope of it. yet. and this part about the defamation against these two individuals.

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Special Report With Bret Baier

don't i think that may be an alewisry date. >> jonathan, we have three people on this indictment now, the former president, his aid walt and now carlos deolivier are a the head of mar-a-lago maintenance low hanging fruit see if they will flip for the government. it's an indication they still want or need those eyewitness accounts. we know the material is held at various locations. they would have some knowledge about that movement. i agree with andy, as do you superseding indictments and you add parties, it just gets a lot

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