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let me know what you think, and we'll talk to the society of editors at 9:30. the suspect in the death of harry dunn would be willing to do community service and make a contribution in his memory, her lawyer says. sports coaches and priests who have sexual relationships with 16 and i7—year—olds will be breaking the law, under new government plans to close legal loopholes. police searching for missing 33—year—old sarah everard, last seen walking alone in clapham, south london, say they remain open—minded as to all possibilites. and coming up this hour: the film world awaits this afternoon's bafta nominations, amid efforts to make the line—up more diverse after last year's #baftassowhite controversy when the four acting categories were all white and no female film—makers were nominated for best director for a seventh consecutive year. crisis meetings involving senior royals have taken place following the duke and duchess of sussex's interview with oprah winfrey. buckingham palace still hasn't commented on the interview, which was broadcast last night on itv. in the programme, meghan said, before their son was born, an unnamed member of the royal family voiced concerns about how dark his skin colour might be. prince harry later clarified to winfrey that the comments were not made by either the queen or the duke of edinburgh. this morning, meghan�*s father, thomas markle, said he thought the question about skin colour was just a dumb question, and he didn't think the british royal family is racist at all. meghan also said she had suicidal thoughts but didn't receive support from the palace. keith doyle reports. viewers in the uk got to watch the full interview last night and the fallout this morning is nuclear. the headlines could not be worse for the palace. turmoil and crisis. they are no less forgiving on the other side of the atlantic. tonight, oprah's interview with the duke and duchess of sussex just aired for the first time in the uk. now britain braces for fallout. despite being previewed, teased and dominating the news, the claims made and heard in the context of the full two—hour interview are still able to shock. claims that meghan was driven close to suicide and that a member of the royal family discussed the skin colour of the duke and duchess�*s soon—to—be born child. in those months when i was pregnant, all around this same time, so we have in tandem the conversation of, "he won't be given security, he's not going to be given a title." and also, concerns and conversations about how dark his skin might be when he's born. what? neither meghan or harry would say who made those comments, throughout the interview, the picture painted was one of an uncaring and unsupportive institution, at odds with the image of being at the head of a multicultural country and commonwealth. in america, this summer, wejust went through the black lives matter movement and the killing of george floyd. now, what we see, when we see this monarchy, we see an institution that we revere, and now we find out that you guys have the same issues of racial and racism, systemic racism, that we do in the united states. so, yes, it does hurt us. it almost seems like a fairy tale shattered for many of us. overnight, there's been no comment from buckingham palace, which is sure to be reeling from such explosive claims by those at the very heart of the royal family. all eyes and the media spotlight is on here today to see how or if it responds. i don't see buckingham palace as being like the kremlin. on the whole, they are a very civilised organisation. but i also don't think that they are likely to engage in this kind of war between two parties which of course the tabloid press would greatly enjoy. the harry and meghan love story was a fairy tale, and brought young, modern vitality into the royal family. this interview has brought up real issues that can't easily be ignored. security, mental health and trust. just a few years on from the fairy tale, and for buckingham palace, all that has turned to crisis management on an epic scale. keith doyle, bbc news. let's speak to our royal correspondent daniela relph. daniela, is buckingham palace going to have to say something because of the allegation of racism that meghan and harry have made?— the allegation of racism that meghan and harry have made? victoria thomas i think it is and harry have made? victoria thomas i think it is hard _ and harry have made? victoria thomas i think it is hard to _ and harry have made? victoria thomas i think it is hard to see _ and harry have made? victoria thomas i think it is hard to see how— and harry have made? victoria thomas i think it is hard to see how they - i think it is hard to see how they can't say something. it is now more than 2a hours since the interview for is dead in the us, and are two substantive allegations that are a real problem for buckingham palace in the interview, the allegations of racism and around the support given to meghan when she felt suicidal. can they really ignore those allegations, especially when you look at the headlines, the kind of comment are being raised around the interview, is it really something they can ignore? yesterday they were a number of meetings, as you would expect, within the palace walls, involving senior members of the royal family, including the queen, the prince of royals, the duke of cambridge, and they will have to make an assessment on what they say next. will they deal directly with the allegations made during the interview, orwill the allegations made during the interview, or will they make a statement that is more general about support for harry and meghan and what happens next and what they do going forward? that is hard to assess, but my gut feeling is that we will hear from them in some form today. this morning, we have heard from thomas markle, who was given an interview this morning, where he talked about a number of areas around their relationship and about what was said during the interview, and he also dealt directly with those allegations of racism. the content of the interview that didn't involve you, - the serious allegations . against the royal family, the personal attacks _ on prince charles, on the duchess of cambridge, on the monarchy, on the institution. _ it's being seen as a real attack on the monarchy _ driven by your daughter and prince harry. - uh... i have great respect for the royals. and i don't think the british royal family are racist. at all. i don't think the british are racist. i think los angeles is racist, california is racist. but i don't think the brits are. uh... the thing about... the thing about, uh... "what colour will the baby be?" "how dark will the baby be?" i'm guessing and hoping it'sjust a dumb question from somebody, you know. it could just be that simple, it could be somebody asking a stupid question, uh, ratherthan being a total racist. and thomas markle there speaking from his home in mexico, where he lives. but it is interesting, looking at the reaction to the interview from the us more broadly, and there is a huge amount of sympathy for harry and meghan there, and also a huge amount of criticism of the royal family at the highest levels in the us. you know, we have said a spokesperson forjoe biden prize meghan's courage, and we also heard from hillary clinton saying, look, this is 2021, perhaps they monarchy needs to look differently at how it addresses some of these issues. i at how it addresses some of these issues. . , at how it addresses some of these issues. ., , ., ., issues. i am 'ust wondering what the palace cow’— issues. i am just wondering what the palace could say _ issues. i am just wondering what the palace could say by _ issues. i am just wondering what the palace could say by way _ issues. i am just wondering what the palace could say by way of _ palace could say by way of explanation or mitigation about the conversation meghan claimed was hard regarding how dark archie �*s skin would be. what can you say to defend that? ., ., �* ~ ., . ., ., that? yeah, i don't know, victoria. it is really — that? yeah, i don't know, victoria. it is really difficult, _ that? yeah, i don't know, victoria. it is really difficult, because - that? yeah, i don't know, victoria. it is really difficult, because we - it is really difficult, because we don't know who the person was that was that said that, and there is this terrible game of who the person was that said that, and there is this terrible game of whodunnit going on in terms of the identity of will want to get into any kind of tit—for—tat around that or in any way identify that person. but is there anything they can say more broadly about the royal family's position. it is difficult to see how they would address the specifics of that in any great detail.— that in any great detail. thank you very much. _ that in any great detail. thank you very much, daniela _ that in any great detail. thank you very much, daniela relph, - that in any great detail. thank you very much, daniela relph, our- that in any great detail. thank you i very much, daniela relph, our royal correspondent. when talking about the rift in the royal family, prince harry said one of the saddest parts was when more than 70 mps called out the colonial undertones of some of the press coverage of meghan and yet no—one from my family ever said anything over those three years — "that really hurt," he said. we are joined by one of the people who signed the letter, the labour's diane abbott, the uk's first black woman mp. diane abbott, good morning to you. harry says, some british tabloid newspapers are bigoted, and that is in part why he left the uk, do you agree? well, as you havejust mentioned, 70 of us, women members of parliament. — mentioned, 70 of us, women members of parliament, both _ mentioned, 70 of us, women members of parliament, both labour _ mentioned, 70 of us, women members of parliament, both labour and - of parliament, both labour and conservative, wrote to tempt you to express our support, because we could not understand why the british media were seeking to tear down meghan for no apparent reason. and we also pointed out some of the colonialist overturns in some of the commentary. so there are at least 70 british members of parliament who think the media coverage of meghan was highly problematic. lastly; think the media coverage of meghan was highly problematic.— was highly problematic. why do you think it was, — was highly problematic. why do you think it was, as _ was highly problematic. why do you think it was, as you _ was highly problematic. why do you think it was, as you put _ was highly problematic. why do you think it was, as you put it, - think it was, as you put it, problematic? others would say racist. ~ ., , ., . ., racist. well, for instance, if kate middleton, _ racist. well, for instance, if kate middleton, and _ racist. well, for instance, if kate middleton, and i— racist. well, for instance, if kate middleton, and i have _ racist. well, for instance, if kate middleton, and i have nothing i middleton, and i have nothing against kate middleton, the tabloids would run a charming story about her eating avocados. if meghan liked avocados, the same tabloid ran a story as meghan somehow supporting, you know, devastation and climate change. meghan could do exactly the same things as white members of parliament did and get criticised for them, parliament did and get criticised forthem, but parliament did and get criticised for them, but if it was other members of the royal family, there was nothing said. i’ee members of the royal family, there was nothing said.— was nothing said. i've actually got those headlines _ was nothing said. i've actually got those headlines come _ was nothing said. i've actually got those headlines come about - was nothing said. i've actually got i those headlines come about stories from the daily express, kate's morning sickness cure, prince william gifted with an avocado for pregnant duchess. so, again, in the daily express, meghan markle's beloved avocado linked to human rights abuses and drought. are you saying clearly that the headline about meghan markle and the way that was written up was because she was of mixed heritage?— was written up was because she was of mixed heritage? well, you have to sa , what of mixed heritage? well, you have to say. what was _ of mixed heritage? well, you have to say, what was the _ of mixed heritage? well, you have to say, what was the difference - of mixed heritage? well, you have to| say, what was the difference between the 20 pregnant women? i asked you and the viewers to make up their own mind. ~ ., , ., ., , mind. well, one is white and one is of mixed heritage, _ mind. well, one is white and one is of mixed heritage, and _ mind. well, one is white and one is of mixed heritage, and you - mind. well, one is white and one is of mixed heritage, and you would l of mixed heritage, and you would agree with that? that of mixed heritage, and you would agree with that?— agree with that? that wasn't a random story. _ agree with that? that wasn't a random story, there _ agree with that? that wasn't a random story, there were - agree with that? that wasn't a random story, there were so l agree with that? that wasn't a - random story, there were so many stories like that, and i even had a story criticising meghan for having her hands in her pockets, when there were photographs of the queen with her hands in her pockets and nothing was said. you have to draw conclusions from the weight meghan was systematically criticised and attacked for things which other white members of the royal family could get away with. i am white members of the royal family could get away with.— white members of the royal family could get away with. i am talking to the head of— could get away with. i am talking to the head of the _ could get away with. i am talking to the head of the society _ could get away with. i am talking to the head of the society of _ could get away with. i am talking to the head of the society of editors i the head of the society of editors just after 9:30am this morning, he says british tabloids are not racist, that these kind of stories are not examples of bigotry, and that he wants prince harry to give him the evidence of racist tabloid coverage. him the evidence of racist tabloid coveraue. . , him the evidence of racist tabloid coveraue. ., , , him the evidence of racist tabloid coveraue. ., y , ., coverage. clearly, this gentleman cannot read- _ coverage. clearly, this gentleman cannot read. you _ coverage. clearly, this gentleman cannot read. you can _ coverage. clearly, this gentleman cannot read. you can cite - coverage. clearly, this gentleman cannot read. you can cite story i cannot read. you can cite story after story when meghan was treated quite differently from white members of the royal family. there was also a story right at the beginning when they were engaged, when they talked about her mother being straight out of compton, there was gangster overtones. no, the man cannot read. i am not saying, of course, that every single tabloid or broadcast media journalist is racist, but there is no doubt that newspapers and media have been involved in peddling racist stereotypes, not least about meghan. fiend peddling racist stereotypes, not least about meghan.— peddling racist stereotypes, not least about meghan. and is that because there _ least about meghan. and is that because there is _ least about meghan. and is that because there is such _ least about meghan. and is that because there is such a - least about meghan. and is that because there is such a lack- least about meghan. and is that because there is such a lack of. because there is such a lack of diversity and media newsrooms up and down the country? it is diversity and media newsrooms up and down the country?— down the country? it is partly about the lack of diversity. _ down the country? it is partly about the lack of diversity. i _ down the country? it is partly about the lack of diversity. i mean, - down the country? it is partly about the lack of diversity. i mean, over. the lack of diversity. i mean, over 30 years ago, i actually worked in television news, and i have to say that, 30 years later, there are hardly any more black and brown people in the newsroom than their work when i was a young woman. 50 work when i was a young woman. so what has to be done, then, to correct that and potentially reduce the kind of bigoted coverage that prince harry claims he was subject to, and his wife? prince harry claims he was sub'ect to, and his wife?i to, and his wife? well, first of all, i to, and his wife? well, first of all. i think— to, and his wife? well, first of all, i think people _ to, and his wife? well, first of all, i think people need - to, and his wife? well, first of all, i think people need to - to, and his wife? well, first of| all, i think people need to face to, and his wife? well, first of. all, i think people need to face up to the facts and need to face up to the kind of stories that some of the members have been running. then you need a much more diverse newsroom, and better pipelines for black people, asian people, people of cult are notjust to be presenters, but to be in a newsrooms, writing the stories. —— people of colour not just to be presenters. the media cannotjust refuse just to be presenters. the media cannot just refuse to just to be presenters. the media cannotjust refuse to accept it has been involved in peddling racist stereotypes. it is very hurtful. clearly, i am not meghan markle, but i've had my share of being attacked and abused by media commentators and slanted stories, and it is very painful, it is very hurtful. and i think it can put some people off going into the public space. and think it can put some people off going into the public space. and you are clear that _ going into the public space. and you are clear that some _ going into the public space. and you are clear that some of _ going into the public space. and you are clear that some of those - going into the public space. and you are clear that some of those attacks| are clear that some of those attacks are clear that some of those attacks are because you are a black woman? well, you would only have to read some of them. but what i am saying is that it is hurtful, it is corrosive, and in the end, it makes you doubt yourself.— you doubt yourself. thank you very much for talking _ you doubt yourself. thank you very much for talking to _ you doubt yourself. thank you very much for talking to us _ you doubt yourself. thank you very much for talking to us this - you doubt yourself. thank you very | much for talking to us this morning. thank you, diane abbott, labour mp. and we are going to talk to the society of editors after 9:30am, really interested to hear your take on this. clearly, you heard what diane abbott said, the society of editors say british tabloids are not bigoted, which is the word that prince harry has used. what is your own view? have you had a story written about you in a british tabloid? what do you think? send me an e—mail. oryou tabloid? what do you think? send me an e—mail. or you can message me on instagram or twitter. the american woman accused over the death of harry dunn would be willing to do community service and make a contribution in his memory, according to her lawyer. 19—year—old harry died when his motorcycle was involved in a collision with a car near an raf base in 2019. anne sacoolas, who was driving the car, later returned to her home in the united states and claimed dimplomatic immunity. her lawyer has told the bbc she won't return to the uk to stand trial. this kind of an accident, had it occurred in the united states, would not be prosecuted criminally. so

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