brigade" that the idf claims were hiding in a tunnel located near the indonesian hospital. that's one of the largest healthcare facilities in northern gaza that was hit by airstrikes in october. the bbc has not independently verified the latest claims by the idf. the idf warned people living in northern gaza to move further south as it steps up what it says is the third phase of its ground operations against hamas. the un says nearly i.9m people have been forced from their homes since israel's retaliatory strikes began, after hamas�* attacks on october the 7th. this as testimony is coming to light about the horrors of the october 7th attacks nearly two months later. the bbc has been hearing evidence that women were sexually assaulted, raped and mutilated during hamas�*s attacks on southern israel. israeli investigators say they are trawling through 60,000 hours of footage and have compiled more than a thousand testimonies from witnesses and those who handled the bodies of victims after the attack. this report from our middle east correspondent, lucy williamson, contains graphic details and testimony you may find very disturbing. out of the chaos and mass trauma of the hamas attacks, new stories are starting to emerge — of rape and sexual assault, including graphic testimony from an eye witness interviewed by police. i realised they were raping her one by one. then she was passed to another man in uniform. she was still alive when she was being raped. the scale of sexual violence here is not clear — bodies were mutilated and survivors few. police admit they are facing a lack of forensic evidence from the site. you can still hear the israeli bombardment of gaza and see vast clouds of black smoke hanging over the gaza strip. but in the days following the attacks, this site was an active combat zone. it was a big enough challenge to collect the bodies, let alone early forensic evidence of sexual crimes. videos shot by hamas during the attacks, an early warning — a large bloodstain on the trousers of one woman captive, female bodies piled on trucks, naked or semi—clothed. body collectors describe piles of women's bodies, naked from the waist—down, some photographed with their legs splayed. those who witnessed sexual attacks have struggled with what they saw. i spoke with girls that are now, at least three girls, that are now hospitalised for very hard psychiatric situation because of the rapes they watched. they pretended to be dead and they watched it and they heard everything from the side. some of them want to kill themselves. some can't deal with it. crucial evidence has come from the makeshift identification unit at this army base. teams here describe assault, including palaces broken from sustained rape. ——pelvises but the scale of sexual abuse during these attacks may never be fully known. it's definitely multiple. it's hard to tell. i have also dealt with more than a few burnt bodies, and those, i have no idea what they went through beforehand. bodies that are missing the bottom half, i also don't know if they were raped. staff here told me there were patterns in the violence visited on women's bodies, according to location. investigators say these attacks were systematic and premeditated, but piecing together even one single story is slow and difficult work. the wider story of sexual violence in these attacks is onlyjust beginning. lucy williamson, bbc news, jerusalem. joining me now to discuss is naftali bennett, the former prime minister of israel. thank you forjoining us tonight. i want to start with that report, the bbc seeing and hearing evidence of rape, sexual violence during the attacks by hamas. what have israeli investigators been finding when speaking with survivors?— survivors? this is a very difficult _ survivors? this is a very difficult undertaking - survivors? this is a very difficult undertaking for| difficult undertaking for obvious reasons and mainly because many, many of the victims of rape were then murdered. but we know that there has been widespread, on october seven, widespread use of rape, of gang rape, ultimately in most cases, killing the victim at the end of the act. in some cases, cutting her breasts off and playing around with. and we know many women were under very aggressive sexual violence. it is certainly something as we heard there in the report that will continue be investigated. something that the us administration, president biden has said should be condemned internationally. i want to come to the fighting we are have moved into khan younis, down to rafah, but civilians have already moved from the north to khan younis in that area so you have many civilians in such a small area. where should they then go? small area. where should they then no? , ., small area. where should they thenuo? , ., ., ., then go? first of all, you are riuht. then go? first of all, you are riht. it then go? first of all, you are right- it is — then go? first of all, you are right- it is a _ then go? first of all, you are right. it is a very _ then go? first of all, you are right. it is a very difficult - right. it is a very difficult situation, i won't pretend otherwise, because hamas is deliberately placing itself in locations where civilians are there, especially hospitals etc. the idf has created areas of safe zones within the southern part of gaza and they were very explicit about telling people where to go, went to go, so they can be out of harm's way. this by the way is very uncommon in warfare but we are doing it diligently... but you say you are creating safe zones but we saw a report on tuesday from the world health organization sank the situation in gaza in the south around khan younis is getting worse by the hours.— around khan younis is getting worse by the hours. there is a wa to worse by the hours. there is a way to step — worse by the hours. there is a way to step it- _ worse by the hours. there is a way to stop it. if— worse by the hours. there is a way to stop it. if hamas - worse by the hours. there is a way to stop it. if hamas will . way to stop it. if hamas will lay down its arms and stop using its own citizens as human shields, this will all stop. there is one entity responsible for all of this and it is hamas. we do not how any magical solution how to operate... magical solution how to operate. . ._ magical solution how to operate. . . operate... what about a strategy. _ operate... what about a strategy. a _ operate... what about a strategy, a strategy - operate... what about a l strategy, a strategy itself because a strategy to defeat hamas which is the aim here, you have said. he told the new york times in october that what is important is not to play along the lines are hamas right for us and there is a much less costly way to go about things, and you said this in the article, including humanitarian corridors and small targeted rates are not going into the heart of gaza city. that is what the idf is doing. do you disagree with a strategy? i think the strategy is a fair strategy and it is working because we are killing many, many commanders of hamas... find many commanders of hamas. .. and civilians, many commanders of hamas. .. and civilians. mr— many commanders of hamas... and civilians, mr bennett. many commanders of hamas. .. and civilians, mr bennett. no, _ civilians, mr bennett. no, hamas is _ civilians, mr bennett. no, hamas is making - civilians, mr bennett. no, hamas is making civilians| civilians, mr bennett. iifr, hamas is making civilians die by placing them in harm's way and i have to say many civilians are designing deliberately that they want to take that risk, and even... mr bennett. _ take that risk, and even... mr bennett, this _ take that risk, and even... mr bennett, this is also their home, if i may say, this is also their home out of the fear they may not be able to go back. , , ., . back. or they should have thou~ht back. or they should have thought before _ back. or they should have thought before they - back. or they should have thought before they went | back. or they should have - thought before they went and raped and killed... i’m thought before they went and raped and killed... i'm talking about palestinian _ raped and killed... i'm talking about palestinian civilians, . about palestinian civilians, not hamas.— about palestinian civilians, not hamas. �* �* . . ~ not hamas. but i'm also talking about civilians. _ not hamas. but i'm also talking about civilians. unfortunately, i about civilians. unfortunately, as you may know or may not know, many civilians that participated in the act of terror on october seven and unfortunately hamas enjoys widespread support by civilians. this is not to say we will target civilians deliberately. we do not do that. but if civilians decide they want to place themselves in harm's way. mr they want to place themselves in harm's way.— they want to place themselves in harm's way. mr bennett, you and i in harm's way. mr bennett, you and i know— in harm's way. mr bennett, you and i know there _ in harm's way. mr bennett, you and i know there has _ in harm's way. mr bennett, you and i know there has not - in harm's way. mr bennett, you and i know there has not been l and i know there has not been and i know there has not been an election in gaza since 2006 so it is unfair to say how many civilians support hamas and there are many children as you know in gaza but i want to ask you about one more thing, from the us secretary of defence over the weekend, talking about his experience fighting isis in iraq and you have compared yourself hamas to isis any talks about the need to protect act civilians and said that "in this kind of fight the centre of gravity is a civilian population and if you drive them into the arms of the enemy you place a tactical victory with a strategic defeat". your thoughts on those words? i will sa this. thoughts on those words? i will say this- if _ thoughts on those words? i will say this. if we _ thoughts on those words? i will say this. if we wanted - thoughts on those words? i will say this. if we wanted to - thoughts on those words? iiffi ii. say this. if we wanted to harm civilians, we could have won the whole war in one day and we could have indiscriminately bombed gaza, for victory but many, many civilians would have died, many more. we're not doing that. they could have been the easiest thing in the world in other countries done that in history against terrible enemies. we are not doing that. yeah, it is taking time and if anyone has a better plan, bring it on. barring that, we have to eliminate hamas. wejust that, we have to eliminate hamas. we just don't have another choice. mr bennett, thank you — another choice. mr bennett, thank you for _ another choice. mr bennett, thank you forjoining - another choice. mr bennett, thank you forjoining us - another choice. mr bennett, thank you forjoining us on l another choice. mr bennett, i thank you forjoining us on bbc news and we do hope to continue the conversation. in gaza, the united nations is warning of an even more hellish scenario with no safe places for people to go. the resumption of fighting has intensified the hunger crisis in gaza, the un food programme says. our colleagues at bbc radio 4 spoke to ghada al kurd. she's a mother of two and living in a tent in khan younis, having been displaced several times in the last 7 weeks. now she might have to move again. discussing this in the morning, me and my sister, i said to her where to go? this is the fifth place we are evacuating to. we were in gaza city, then we moved to al—shifa hospital, then we moved to nasa in gaza city, and then we moved to the middle area, and they said carry all of your staff! this is our winter season. with me is hani almadhoun who's the director of philanthropy at unrwa usa and has family members in gaza. our condolences, your brother, his wife and their children were killed in gaza the week before last before we ask anything, how are you doing? thank you for having me again, we are dealing with a big loss in ourfamily. last time we are dealing with a big loss in our family. last time we spoke, i had three siblings, three brothers and now i have two and i have lost four of my nephews and nieces. some of them as young as seven. my sister—in—law is gone. when i came here a month ago on the show we had three houses in gaza and now we have zero houses and ijust heard the israeli former prime minister talking about us being hamas and being embedded with hamas and being embedded with hamas and all of that. there is no glory in what they have done to my family and they have killed him 1.5 hours before the truth as they were sleeping, not only did they kill six people, they destroyed my home and our cat as well. they say cats have nine lives in gaza, this is not true because the bombs kill everybody unfortunately it took us seven days to dig bodies out, one at a time, because there are no machines allowed to go in and we don't know, we're trying to adapt to this and know, i know now that grief can be a sneaky thing and this is a realfamily, people i know and love and they are being killed by israeli military and if i may, airstrikes, no doubt he killed them. i ifi may, airstrikes, no doubt he killed them.— he killed them. i will ask about the _ he killed them. i will ask about the israeli - he killed them. i will askj about the israeli position he killed them. i will ask. about the israeli position in he killed them. i will ask- about the israeli position in a moment. you said earlier that you are having a crisis of faith, what did you mean by that? �* , , faith, what did you mean by that? ~ , y ., faith, what did you mean by that? ~ y ., , that? absolutely. you see the horrors of _ that? absolutely. you see the horrors of gaza _ that? absolutely. you see the horrors of gaza and _ that? absolutely. you see the horrors of gaza and how - that? absolutely. you see the horrors of gaza and how could j horrors of gaza and how could you not question everything around you and everyone has failed us as palestinians in the us and on the home front and everywhere. we cannot find anybody who can come through for us and rescue us. i work for us and rescue us. i work for the largest, i work to support the largest humanitarian organisation inside gaza and i could not get my mother a sip of water and i cannot get my brother flower, despite the good work they were doing and i am questioning a lot of relatives around me including people around me, from politicians to people of faith. as, from politicians to people of faith. ~ , , ., from politicians to people of faith. m , ., , ., ., faith. a sense of frustration i am hearing _ faith. a sense of frustration i am hearing from _ faith. a sense of frustration i am hearing from you. - faith. a sense of frustration i am hearing from you. i - faith. a sense of frustration i am hearing from you. i want| faith. a sense of frustration i l am hearing from you. i want to ask about what we have heard from israeli including the former prime minister naftali bennett, who say israel have a right to defend themselves, especially amidst these reports of sexual violence committed against israeli women. what is your response to the? speaking as a palestinian _ your response to the? speaking as a palestinian american - your response to the? speaking as a palestinian american with l as a palestinian american with family gaza, my family has nothing to do with what they are talking about. i don't know what the facts. the facts are what the facts. the facts are what the facts. the facts are what the israeli say they are, they remain unchallenged and i hope it will continue to press them and i offer condolences to anyone... them and i offer condolences to anyone- - -_ anyone... are you saying you doubt this _ anyone... are you saying you doubt this testimony? - anyone... are you saying you doubt this testimony? we . anyone... are you saying you l doubt this testimony? we have also been hearing this from witnesses and those are collected bodies after the attack? �* ., ~ collected bodies after the attack? �* . ~ . attack? i'm talking about the stories we — attack? i'm talking about the stories we have _ attack? i'm talking about the stories we have heard - attack? i'm talking about the stories we have heard from l stories we have heard from al—shifa hospital an not from the sexual violence but no human being should support that. the reality is i cannot deal with this when we're looking at 1700 people dead, including 7000 children, and it is unfortunate that this is going to justify the murder of people like my family. i don't want anyone to be harmed, any israeli is harmed, we learned that from our parents, the good values is to support fellow humans but the reality is these things are shared i need to justify more violence of my family. justify more violence of my famil . , ., , . family. does her mouth bear responsibility _ family. does her mouth bear responsibility for _ family. does her mouth bear responsibility for what - family. does her mouth bear responsibility for what you . family. does her mouth bearl responsibility for what you are describing —— hamas? i responsibility for what you are describing -- hamas?- responsibility for what you are describing -- hamas? i have no idea about _ describing -- hamas? i have no idea about hamas _ describing -- hamas? i have no idea about hamas and - describing -- hamas? i have no idea about hamas and their - idea about hamas and their agenda and all that. my focus is on my family and support human aid. obviously israel has a war with hamas and whatever. ijust a war with hamas and whatever. i just what my family to be safe, what my friends to be safe, what my friends to be safe, and sadly that does not continue to be the case. they worry that this is not the last tragedy we will see in our family in this war and, as i've said, myfamily is family in this war and, as i've said, my family is sheltering, which, as we speak, is being bombed around the clock by israeli forces, it is another hospital that's a target and, unfortunately, nothing makes sense again. and i don't know, my brother has nothing to do with hamas. as kids, for crying out loud, a seven—year—old boy, wanted to play soccer, and one day he is gone. this is the sad reality, the hostages in israel may come back and see another day, my family won't. and 17,000 more of them will not be seeing the light of day again. can i ask you before we go, quickly, you are here in the biden administration, there have been morkel�*s officials to look out for civilians in gaza. you're still disappointed disappointed, is that right? i want to recognise that this administration has been a very positive administration in terms of the support, it is a big improvement from the previous administration, but speaking as an american voter, yes, am frustrated.— yes, am frustrated. thank you so much for — yes, am frustrated. thank you so much for sharing _ yes, am frustrated. thank you so much for sharing story - yes, am frustrated. thank you so much for sharing story with j so much for sharing story with us stop once again, our condolences for your loss you and your family.— condolences for your loss you and your family. thank you for havin: and your family. thank you for having me- — around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. let's look at some other stories making news. 11 hikers have been found dead near the crater of indonesia's mount marapi volcano after it erupted over the weekend. 12 others are missing and the search was suspended on monday after another, smaller eruption. there were 75 hikers in the area during the main eruption on sunday but most were safely evacuated. marapi spewed an enormous ash cloud that blanketed surrounding villages. britain and rwanda have sig