that's about seven hours from now. about midnight your time, eastern time over there. so there's still some time. still a few hours left for a last-minute deal to be hammered out. and i expect that behind the scenes diplomatic efforts are in overdrive to try and make sure that this hostage deal that has gone on for seven consecutive days will go on for an eighth because it's in the interests of all parties. israel is getting significant numbers of its hostages out. and on the palestinian side in gaza they're getting prisoners released. and of course they're getting an important influx of humanitarian aid. every day this pause in the violence, this pause in the israeli military operation continues. and so look, the hope is that this can go on for longer. but at the moment there's no deal. and there's just a few hours to go. seven hours at most, we think, before time literally runs out on bringing the parties together for an extension of this deal, jake. >> matthew, within the hour six newly released hostages crossed back into israel. two other hostages were released earlier today. is that it? do we expect any other hostages today? >> reporter: yeah, we think that's it. that's eight hostages altogether. remember, israel set the number of 10 hostages that it wanted every day in order for there to be a 24-hour pause in the military operation. there were two israeli hostages released in addition to the 10 yesterday. and so they brought that number forward, it seems, and made 10. but i mean, the point is it's getting increasingly difficult for hamas, it seems, under the terms of the current deal, which basically focuses on women and children, to gather enough hostages in a single day to make this swap. there are still about 140 hostages inside gaza, and so there are still israeli hostages there as well as other nationalities as well we understand, who can be swapped, and hamas is in charge in vast swaths of gaza. but when it comes to the adult males and it comes to the hostages who are members of the israeli defense forces, the israeli military, then -- look, what israeli legislators are saying to me is that hamas is going to want a different equation. it's going to want a different deal. at the moment it's getting three prisoners released, for instance, for every one israeli that's set free. if you're talking about much more higher value from their point of view individuals like israeli soldiers, they're going to want more than that. and so that is a process of negotiation that israelis say they're willing to enter into if there are more hostages being released. but you know, it still has to be agreed, and it hasn't been yet. >> matthew chance in tel aviv for us. thanks so much. even though the pause in fighting between israel and hamas has officially lasted for seven days, we are also seeing an upswing in tension and violence. hamas is taking credit for today's terrorist attack at a bus stop in jerusalem that left three innocent civilians dead and seven wounded, including some americans. cnn's ben wedeman is in jerusalem. the attackers, who were also killed afterwards, were brothers, ben. >> reporter: that's right. they were 38-year-old nurad nimr and his brother 38-year-old ibrahim. we've seen video of the actual attack taking place. what you see is their car, which they drove from sur el bahr, which is an eastern suburb of jerusalem, drives up right in front of this bus station. the two get out and just start opening fire on people waiting for the bus. this was at rush hour in the morning. and you see they go back, they try to get back in their car after shooting people, and then it appears bystanders, one perhaps a soldier, one a civilian, draw their weapons and kill them on the spot. so three people dead, seven people injured. and in the aftermath of this prime minister benjamin netanyahu said yes, we should be giving more weapons to civilians and his words were echoed by national security minister itamar ben gvir, and this really underscores the level of tension even though at the moment, at the moment the guns have gone silent in gaza itself. and as far as the situation in gaza, as people watch the clock as the clock ticks down to 7:00 a.m. tomorrow, the hundreds of thousands of people who have been made homeless, who have been displaced, particularly from the north of gaza, are struggling to survive. there isn't much left to retrieve from the moonscape that was zahara city in central gaza. just some scraps of wood pulled from the ruins. the odds and ends that were once people's lives. "we've come to get what we can," says umjad deshanti. the kids' clothing, whatever we can get from under the rubble. this, his daughter's toy. "no one can live here anymore. the destruction total." life in gaza has been reduced to the basics. a preindustrial existence where people have become hewers of wood where they can find it. and drawers of water even if that water is barely potable. basm el atr goes out early every day to collect the firewood his wife uses to prepare meals. the united nations estimates around 80% of gaza's population has been displaced. more than a million jammed into schools converted into shelters. "people here are living on top of one another," says besm. "the place is full of filth. all these kids are going to get sick." the world health organization reports that without adequate hygiene, health care and food disease is spreading. besm's wife, hitam, tears up the daily bread, old and stale, to be made into a thin soup with lentils. "we used to feed this to the sheep. now we give it to the children," she says. there's no more room at this school in mugazi in central gaza. mshedi and her extended family of 20 sleep in the back of a truck protected from the elements by a plastic tarp. she fled from northern gaza with only what she could carry. desperate now to find enough food to feed her children. "when my son tells me i'm hungry, what can i say," she asks. "we try but we can't find anything. our life is hard." hard perhaps is an understatement. welcome to the apocalypse. now. ben wedeman, cnn, jerusalem. >> our thanks to ben wedeman for that report. the twisted minds of the terrorists of hamas today released a brief hostage video of a man named yarden bibas. bibas is of course the father of the very youngest hostage, 10-month-old kfir, as well as his brother, 4-year-old ariel. hamas has claimed without producing any evidence as of yet that those two boys as well as their mother, who were all taken hostage back on october 7th, that they were all killed by an israeli airstrike on gaza. we do not know that to be true. we do not know that they're dead even. here is an image from the hostage video released today. we're not going to show the video, of course. it's pure hamas propaganda. it does show the father, bibas, pleading with israeli officials to bring him and his family home as soon as possible. he was kidnapped on october 7th. he has been held separate from his family since then. the last time i spoke with yael engel ichi her nephew oafer was being held hostage by hamas after visiting his girlfriend at kibbutz be'eri. he since marked his 18th birthday in captivity. after more than 50 days being held in hamas you're seeing some of the very first videos taken of ofer being reunited with his parents. his aunt yael joins me now. thank you for being here. i don't get a lot of opportunities to do good news since october 7th. so this is a niels respite. i'm grateful to be able to show these pictures of your family back together. now, understanding that after more than 50 days of being in captivity expectations have to be tempered, how's he doing? >> hi. thank you for having me again. i saw him today for the first time after we saw him last night around 12:00 p.m. -- a.m. at night. midnight. they just came into israel. it was so exciting. i can't -- i can't imagine and i can't -- i didn't know you can feel all those feelings together. at the same time in such a -- so we went to visit him today, and i was really frightened to see him because you know, after 54 days we saw him yesterday on tv, he looked a little bit pale and much more thinner. but he's alive and he's walking on his feet. and when i saw his mother and father hug him i knew the hard part was over and we start a new episode of recovering and healing and hugging him. it was not easy to see him. i think it's -- i look in his eyes as i told you before, last time, he has such big green eyes, and -- sorry. it was not the same. it was not the same. he looks good. he was smiling at us. we hugged him. but we saw he had been through something very, very hard. >> yeah. >> and he told us things from there. and -- but he's alive and he's back home. not home yet. in the hospital. >> i mean, how he looks -- obviously you know this. but how he looks today is not how he's going to look in a month, right? i mean, emily hand, that little girl, that irish israeli girl, you know, her eyes, she has that thousand-yard stare, but how she looks today isn't going to be how she looks in a month. necessarily. we can always hope that, you know, he'll get better. has he shared any details about his experience? >> yes. actually, he really remembers every -- i think every hour of this 54 days. we have been there -- i have been there only for a short while because we need to give him space and they're doing a lot of tests to him. but as generally i can say that they did a lot of psychological terror on him. they kept telling him he won't come home, nobody cares about him. they kept telling him that everyone -- all his girlfriend's family was dead. that his government doesn't seems to take care of. and he was held in i think an apartment. he was not underground. he was not alone. so i think he had a lot -- a lot of luck. you know, it's funny to say. but he had luck being with some other hostages. but it were 45 days and i asked him how did you count the days? how did you know what day it is? because he didn't have the chance to see television or radio or nothing. and he told me every day he bited another finger so as the days went through he knows that -- his nails, not his fingers. so he knows how many days went over. and they were all kept in small room. they had very little food. but it's not what -- the physical terms. it was the psychologic terms. he looked so afraid. and i went there in the hospital and i saw some other children that just went out today and yesterday, and i thought to myself, it's not reasonable that the children, just innocent children were taken and kept there for 54 days. it's not normal. not normal. and we couldn't stop crying with him. it was -- i can't -- i can't explain. i don't have the words to explain how horrific it is, really. >> was he in the home -- was he in the home of a family? was he kept in the home of a family? i mean, did he say anything about who he was staying with? >> we just know he was staying with some people that guarded them all the time. they weren't allowed to go outside. they told him to whisper all the time because they told him that if you will talk loudly the israeli army will bomb this house and kill him. so my brother told me that this morning after he slept a few hours he wake up and he just didn't speak loudly. he just whispered. and he told him again and again it's okay, you can talk normally. you're back home. and then around 8:00 in the morning my brother sent us a picture of him sleeping in the bed and said all we wanted is to see our kid sleep again in a safe bed. >> yeah. >> i tell you, it's not normal. i heard the item before, and i'm really sorry for all the people that lost their home there in gaza. but the world should understand that what happened here on october 7, i hear more and more stories of hostages going out. and what they did to other people and what they did to the women there, it's really -- it's really horrible. and there are some people that won't get over that. not in a month, not in a year. >> no, i know. >> i hope -- it's really -- it's not something children must go through. >> what hamas -- >> none of them. not here and -- >> what hamas -- >> and you know today -- >> go ahead. >> sorry. >> no, please. >> today terror attack that happened in jerusalem, the two -- hamas took responsibility of for the two terrorists made it, they just live 200 meters from us. >> is that right? >> my daughter asked myself, it's not only in gaza. how can i go by bus to school if i know there are terrorists near my house? and it must stop. all this situation must stop. the world should understand that the hamas, what they're doing, taking people like that. and i think i send you the movie that ofir meets his girlfriend yuval. and i was there when they met, and it was so painful because she was so happy to see him but she just came back from the memorial of their two nieces and aunt and her father still kept there. >> yeah. it's awful. what hamas did to so many people and in many ways is doing to their own people. yael engel lichi, thank you so much. please come back when ofir is ready to talk or at least come back and show pictures of him when the light is back in his eyes and his smile is back. because i know he's going to get better. and we're so happy that he's back and we're so happy that he's alive. >> yes, me too. thank you. thank you so much. >> coming up, the new report today about a tense call between donald trump and congressman kevin mccarthy. wait until you hear why trump reportedly did not want to help mccarthy fight to keep his seat as house speaker. plus the new attempts to keep political ads produced with ai-generated images off your tv screen. stay with us. new reporting from the "washington post" describes a tense phone call between former house speaker kevin mccarthy and donald trump in the days following mccarthy's ousting from the speakership. in the call trump explained why he did not stop mccarthy from being removed as speaker. the post reporting, "during the call trump lambasted mccarthy for not expunging his two impeachments and not endorsing him in the 2024 presidential campaign, according to people familiar with the conversation. f you mccarthy claimed to have then told trump." although he didn't say f. you know. a spokesperson for mccarthy said he did not swear at the former president. and trump declined to comment. we should note of course that mccarthy and presumably his spokespeople are a little fast and loose with the truth on occasion. my panel's with me now. david urban, what do you make of this story? i find it -- >> shocking. i find it shocking. >> i find it pretty easy to believe. >> absolutely i find it believable. look, the former president is a score keeper as we all know. in his mind he's got a tally of who's done me right and who's done me wrong and the latter list is much longer than the former list, right? >> yeah. >> and he's not shy about keeping score and letting people know when he's unhappy with them. and very rarely is he -- does he throw -- there's not a lot of people he's thrown bones to, plaudits. so i could see that conversation occurring quite easily. >> and yet we got from liz cheney's book, audie, the fact that we remember kevin mccarthy threw donald trump that lifeline in january 2021 when it looked like the republican party was finally going to break with him after the insurrection and mccarthy went down to mar-a-lago, posed for that picture and then liz cheney had that famous conversation, now famous, from her book where she's like kevin, what the hell? and he said something along the lines of like he's depressed, he's not eating -- >> he told me he's not eating. >> he's so caring. >> still makes me laugh. >> of all the telenovelas in washington this is probably the least interesting to me. >> i would love to see the spanish version. >> honestly. but i do think like this is what happens when you have a transactional relationship and you aren't prepared to deal in a transactional way. one person in this party is like do what i need when i need it. the other person is like have you had a snack? also, can you help me now? it's just not understanding what is at stake. and i've never seen political roadkill but it does feel like this might be what it looks like. >> you're calling kevin mccarthy political road kill? >> i just think what has he gained out of this year? urban, tell me. >> look, he's had a tough year. kevin mccarthy's had a tough year. in kevin mccarthy's defense he elected basically the entire house of representatives, right? and then they kind of conveniently forgot that he got them elected. >> a transaction -- >> no, that's my point. my point is he literally spent millions of dollars to help nancy mace and you know, eli crane to get across the finish line and get to be the majority -- >> and they were the first -- >> and they were the first to throw him und err why the bus. >> at the end of the day who was in charge? donald trump. >> i don't know if he -- >> couldn't govern -- >> yes, he's raise aid lot of money no, question about it and at the end of the day members care about that because it costs money to run for congress. of course. but you're only as influential and powerful as the role you have. he has been removed, in part because donald trump wouldn't throw him a lifeline. because shock, donald trump doesn't care -- >> clearly he didn't care a bunch because eli crane wouldn't be in congress and nancy mace wouldn't be in congress if it weren't for kevin mccarthy. >> but in terms of congressional stories, 2023, it's his, the story the rise and fall of this person. >> you guys remember mad libs from when you were kids? >> i was playing last night, actually. i'm not kidding. last night. >> so anybody under 40 won't get this reference. do you remember mad libs? >> everyone under 60 you said? >> so in any case -- this is a news story from mad libs. just this hour tucker carlson announced on the roseanne barr podcast that he is endorsing trump for president. thoughts? >> yeah, shocking again. >> huge shocking news. >> and i'm shocked that elon musk doesn't come out and endorse trump. come on. he's like -- he's like i'm voting for biden but i'm not going to tell you who i'm voting for. >> by the way, did you see elon musk at the interview with -- >> yes. >> "the new york times" deal summit? >> with andrew ross sorkin. which was a great interview. sorkin did a great job. >> especially since he called him jonathan at one point. >> i'm only here because you're my friend, jonathan. >> did you see that? you're my friend jonathan. >> and then elon went on to tell disney to f off. >> don't blackmail him. >> and not to advertise on his platform anymore. which is an interesting tactic for a ceo to tell advertisers to f off. >> and then the argument was what do you -- you're going to destroy your platform -- >> yep. >> -- and musk basically said, well, the platform will be destroyed but the world will know it was disney that did it. the world will know. >> i mean, he's always used this argument about free speech. and again, it's one of those fundamental misunderstandings about free speech. in the constitution it protects you from government overreach. when you're -- >> it's a private company. >> -- a business and your business relies on tuesdaying, they have the right to walk away. >> fortunately he's got like 100-plus billion dollars he can burn for a while. >> but there's also an argument he essentially wanted to tear the place down since he got there. he tried backing out of the deal because he realized it wasn't going to be profitable in the way he wanted or he wasn't going to be able to exert the influence he wanted with the board and the advertisers. so it's sort of hard to think that he had a legitimate business plan from the start. i think he wanted to influence discourse in the public square. that's what he cares about.