seven odd cnn this is cnn breaking news. >> hello everyone. thanks for joining me today. i'm alison chemla, erotic and for frederick a. whitfield, we have breaking news out of florida. nasa scrubbing its plan to launch boeing's starliner spacecraft today you're seeing the aftermath live right now on your screens apparently, and automatic hold was triggered by the ground launch sequencer. that's the computer that launches the rocket. it stopped the countdown clock with three minutes and 50 seconds left. to go. nasa says it is not clear what caused that automatic hold. space and defense correspondent kristin fisher is live at the kennedy space center for us, also with thus we have a colonel chris hadfield, astronaut and retired commander of the international space station. okay. so kristen, what's the latest where do learning on the ground? >> so right now everybody is focused on the two astronauts onboard this spacecraft, the commander boots hello more, and the pilot, sunny williams. right now, you've got the blue team going in and they've got to get these astronauts off safely and they're essentially sitting on top of a bomb, right? a fully fueled rocket. this is highly flammable. it's dangerous work and so right now, everybody is focused on getting these astronauts off. it's something they trained to do. they did this dozens and dozens of times during space shuttle launches. >> but it's still risky. so that's the primary focus, right? >> right now. >> while they focused on that, engineers are going to be reviewing what triggered this automatic hold or an automatic abort by the computer that launches this rocket. >> that's the big question here. was it any of these issues that they were troubleshooting earlier that perhaps led to this hold. >> we just don't don't know what we're also trying to figure out now is when could they try to launch again as of now, they are going to prepare to try to launch tomorrow. that's the next backup date. a launch around noon. >> but it remains to be seen if they can fully recycle this rocket in time. >> because once you have a rocket that is fully fueled, it can take quite a bit of time to get it. >> all the fuel out. >> and then you gotta get it all the way fueled back up again. so that takes some time. but for now they're preparing for a launch tomorrow, future backup dates are june 5 and sixth of next week i know a lot of people are going to be thinking, wow boeing had another issue, but this may not be an issue with boeing at all. and here's why this is an outdated model. so bear with me to have to give you that caveat, but this is essentially what the rocket looks like on the launchpad, which is just about four or five miles behind me. >> on top is the boeing starliner spacecraft. >> that's what this crewed flight test is four. and this is where the two astronauts are sitting right now and where they're trying to get them out of this is the body of this is the rocket, this whole long piece is the rocket. >> it's designed, built, operated by a totally different company the united launch alliance. >> and so the issue with the first scrub on may 6th, that was an issue with a valve on. this part of the rocket, not the boeing starliner spacecraft. and so that may be the issue again today, perhaps this the computer that detected this issue might've noticed an issue on the rocket itself. but we just don't know. it's just too soon to say it's going to take some time for these engineers to kinda go over all the data and figure out where exactly that a problem was. but allison trust, think if you are butch wilmore, are sunny williams and you get all the way down to three minutes. it's and 50 seconds before launch. for sunny, she's been waiting, assigned to this mission for about ten years and you get that close and they say sorry, scrub, i mean, of course, first and foremost, you want to be safe, but just imagine all that adrenaline and for butch, the commander, he had just delivered this incredibly rousing speech. he'd said something to the effect of, let's fire this rocket and then the hold, this automatic abort happened. so definitely disappointing for the astronauts on board, but you rather be safe and alive. then launched too soon before when you're ready. so we remains to be seen what the issue is, alison and remains to be seen when they're going to try again commander, what what were your thoughts as you watch? >> with them, get down to under four minutes and then it gets scrubbed it's nothing new. >> i mean, that happened on the space shuttle as kristen mentioned many, many times, and that's why you have an automatic ground launch sequencer, an automatic computer, because there are thousands of things that you have to check to make sure the vehicles healthy and there's not enough people that could check them all fast enough. so you set up an automated system and if you go and check, check, check and one of them, if it's out of family or if it got bad data, it says, hey by our rules, we're not safe to launch today. we've got to stop the launch count till we can figure out this problem. >> and i think it's not nearly what it seems. >> four astronauts, the way that kristen was describing it sunny and butch have been trading for years. the training is super realistic and today, they got closer than they've ever gotten to launch. but it's just one more day of training. i had my launches delayed the first space shuttle launch it was delayed for years and years. so it's hard to launch a spaceship for the very first time with people on board, you want to get it right? and it'd be nice if we go to lunch today, but it's far nicer to make sure that we know what the problems are and wait until we have a higher probability of success. so, disappointing, but one more day and the life of two astronauts. >> yes, we all we all agree that it is better to be safe on the ground. do you think, commander, that there's a chance that this can launch again tomorrow or is that too soon of a turnaround? >> we yeah. i mean, it sounds like the ground-launched sequence or saw something that no one else had been tracking up until then none of all the flight controllers, all the people watching the data, they all thought, hey, everything looks okay the computer saw something and now we need to figure out exactly what it saw and it might just be like a a bad sensor. but you don't have time to troubleshoot it. part of the problem is the world is turning and florida comes underneath the orbit of the space station and so the only time you can launch is when florida is perfectly underneath the orbit. so as soon as the world turns a little more, it can't go today, got to wait until the world turns once more and maybe in the time that the world is going to turn here 24 hours, all the smart folks will figure out that was what the problem was and give it another shot tomorrow or on the fifth or the sixth. it's just how it goes. it would've been great to see them launch today. it'll be even greater to see them launch safely. >> commander christine was just explaining to us how it's complicated to get the astronauts off the rocket. now you know, you don't just open the door and they hop out. there's a whole team that has to get them off. so what are they doing right now? >> well as kristen mentioned if you were a kindergarten class drawing the picture of astronauts and a rocket ship, you could just sort of draw a bomb with seats on top that's sort of what, what's your on there. and so before you go and have the crew climb out, you want to make sure sure that all of that fuel, the solid fuel and the liquid fuels, the hydrogen, the oxygen, the kerosene that there's no chance of a stray spark or ignition or procedure getting screwed up. so they want to check all those things and you've got carefully written procedures to back out of a launch and safely extract a prove out. and you they climbed in what it was fully fueled. so it's not like there was a sudden change, but you just have to follow the procedures and they're very methodical. there's no great hurry, right now. the priority is to get the ground safely and the crew's like great day of training. sorry, we disappointed everybody. hopefully the weather is good tomorrow. we'll give it another shot we'll be watching colonel chris hadfield. thank you very much for all the expertise. kristin fisher. thank you for all the reporting. as always. we really appreciate it. thanks. else? >> all right. now, to a key security summit with significant implications for ukraine, president volodymyr zelenskyy is there and he is scheduled to meet with us defense secretary lloyd austin to talk about us support of ukraine in its fight against russia. soon as natasha bergstrom has more on what happened at the summit today secretary austin, address the shangri-la forum here in singapore earlier today in a major speech that focus on the idea of convergence of the united states and its indo-pacific allies here in favor of security and the rule of law, thinly veiled message it's two china, which of course the united states has accused of flouting international law, especially when it comes to freedom of navigation in the season in the air. now, secretary austin also emphasize the importance though of military-to-military communications with the chinese remaining ongoing, saying that that is what responsible nations do. and there's no substitute for that. find of direct dialogue between the us and their chinese counterparts to that end, the secretary did in fact meet face-to-face just the other day with him chinese counterpart for the first time since 2022. and importantly, secretary austin reiterated to the chinese that there are going to be consequences not only for their actions potentially in the south china sea and in the region around taiwan, but also for their support and their ongoing support for russia's defense sector and now that is fueling the war in ukraine, secretary austin said that if, if trying to continues to provide that kind of support for the russians than the us and its allies will be forced to take further measures. now now that is undoubtedly going to be on the agenda for secretary austin to meeting with a surprise guest here at the shangri-la forum, which is president zelenskyy of ukraine. he showed up earlier on saturday night, he's expected to meet on sunday with secretary austin alongside his defense minister umerov. they're expected to talk about the battlefield situation in ukraine, as well as what ukraine needs to defend itself against the russians, right now. and so expect that meeting to be very significant, of course, for austin and for the ukrainian leader here at a moment when the chinese of course are here as well, and they have continued to provide very significant support for russia's defense sector. natasha bertrand, cnn, in singapore thank you, natasha. okay. now to the israel-hamas war, a new statement by israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. today, stress conditions for ending the war, quote, have not changed. but yesterday, president biden laid out a ceasefire proposal and said hamas has been severely degraded at this point. hamas no longer is cable of carrying out another october 7 just wanted to israelis mayes objectiveness war it's time for this war to end for the day after two began are joining me now is joel rubin, former deputy assistant secretary of state for legislative affairs in the obama administration tool. thanks so much for being here it sounds like president biden and prime minister netanyahu have a fundamental difference of opinion and whether the goal of defeating hamas has been achieved. so now what yeah, i'll say it's great to be with you and this is a difference that is really in the negotiation process. and i think what you see with president biden is real american leadership in trying to lay out a vision that provides comprehensive security and its ability for israel and pathways normalization between israel and its arab neighbors. and this is based upon assessment that hamas has been degraded to a point where it cannot conduct the kind of horrific attack that it did. an october 7 to start this whole war. and i think the presidency is a window of opportunity. and so what he did yesterday both publicly in a very clear, clean way to the israeli people and say, look, these are the stakes. here's an opportunity. i believe that we have a pathway forward and he's putting the pressure on the prime minister to continue to lean forward on negotiations and remember, i want to add the israelis did propose this three-step process and they agreed to it. and it's trying to keep them in the fold while putting a lot of pressure on hamas to accept it. but it doesn't sound like prime minister netanyahu agrees with the assessment that hamas has been degraded. well, he's got a lot of internal dynamics that he has to manage and certainly in his coalition there's gonna be a lot of pushback from the far-right for ministers like nmr, ben gvir, and bezalel smotrich who are opposed to any kind of agreement at all whatsoever between israel and the palestinians and deploying out forces from gaza. but he's going to have to negotiate this in the coming days. there are factions within israeli politics. for example, benny gantz, who is a member of the war cabinet, is calling for new elections and trying to get into parliament dissolved prime minister netanyahu has to look in the mirror this moment and decide, does he want to be on the side of long-term security for israel? and if so, he needs to grab this idea that president biden's put forward, that the israelis themselves in their security establishment does see as an important component to long-term security for israel i mean, but given those dynamics as you laid out, does president biden's stance hold any sway with netanyahu? it does look, this is, first of all, america is the best friend of israel, without a doubt. and president biden has been the best president for israeli security that we've ever seen recently, just in april, shooting down iranian missiles launched at israeli territory and the israeli people know that is very high approval ratings, so much higher in israel and prime minister netanyahu hi, who and so he's getting negotiate. remember, president biden is a tough negotiator and a savvy one, uh, he built a multinational coalition with nato expansion included to oppose russia's invasion of ukraine he negotiates with republicans all the time. it gets legislative priorities through the house. he's been at this for a number of decades. and so he sees a window right now to push and cajoled prime minister netanyahu to agree to move forward. and i think that this is a realistic path that he's laid out. it's one that the israelis have talked about, the negotiating table for months. and this is not out of their realm of pi possibility. so he's trying to seal this deal right now obviously, it's one thing to talk about policy and diplomacy and then another thing to look at what's happening on the ground. >> we have some video out of gaza last night and basically it shows that the sun setting, they're over the sea as palestinians our sitting in, what looks like the bombed-out ruins. >> and so i mean, what how how how involved will the usb in? >> helping to rebuild whatever was there yeah, it's heartbreaking gaza and what the people of gaza have experienced because of hamas is launch of that war in october 7 and continual holding of hostages, which has demonstrated their lack of concern for human life. >> the third part of this proposal of the president laid out requires an includes that is construction and reconstruction supported by the international community, by arab gulf states who could be participants in this by neighbors in the region. the united states, those essential glue without us, none of this happens. we must be involved and we will be involved part of the first phase of the deal also would be to provide 600 trucks daily of humanitarian assistance. that's crucial for the people in gaza right now so you can see the united states play being a critical role throughout the process to make sure that all of our allies in the region israel, jordan, egypt, saudi arabia, you name it, that they come to the table and help to reconstruct gaza after this war joel rubin thanks for all the information for your to have you on. >> thanks, allison are coming up. we're falling breaking news. a sentencing verdict has been reached in chad daybell's triple murder trial we'll have all the details coming up for you plot the citywide water outage and atlanta after two major water main breaks in just one day, we had the latest details so what's happening there straight ahead russia is we're trying to spy on us we were spying on them. >> i was hadi friday this is a the secret was secrets and spine nuclear game bring years tomorrow at ten on cnn. >> 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