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are in the cnn newsroom. hi everyone. i'm jessica dean in new york, and we begin with breaking news in a major bloated israel's emergency government. >> just a day after prime minister benjamin netanyahu celebrated the rescue of 400 inside gaza israeli opposition leader and war or cabinet member benny gantz announced he's resigning from the government back in may yan's gave netanyahu an ultimatum, calling for a plan to end the war in gaza bring all the hostages home. >> or he said he would quit. well, that deadline came yesterday was of course, the same day israel's military conducted a special operation to rescue those hostages this from gaza. >> and today, we're learning new details about that surprise mission cnn's paula hancocks is live in tel aviv. >> she's been tracking the latest developments and paula, let's start first with what's happening inside the israeli government. how is prime minister netanyahu responding to this well, jessica, he has already effectively asked gantz to come back. he has said on x formerly known as twitter, that now is not the time to abandon the campaign, saying it is a time for unity, not division. this is something that we were expecting gantz saying that there wasn't a day after plan, that there wasn't a decisive plan to get the hostages back, and there was no decisive to plan to calm things down on the northern border with hezbollah in southern lebanon. so it had been threatened. now, what this means going forward is doesn't mean the coalition and the government is going to collapse. netanyahu still has a majority within the government itself. what it does mean is that this government has lost really what, what many sorts? counterweight to the more far-right elements gantz was really seen as that counterweight to some of the far-right elements for example, like ben gvir who has said that he will leave the coalition if there is a ceasefire agreed to. and it does not meet his expectations in fact, he has already said that he should be part of the war cabinet. now that benny gantz is not so there is this concern that there could be a further push to the right. and what this will mean for the day-to-day decisions when it comes to the gaza war. now we know that us officials were concerned about what this would mean if gans it's where to go for the hostage ceasefire deal as well. benny gantz was a strong proponent of president biden's proposal from last week, which you said was an israeli proposal for this hostage deal, which they are currently waiting for her mask to officially respond to jessica and paul were also learning from new details about that surprise hostage rescue by the israeli military in gaza what are these new details you can tell us well the israeli defense force have been issuing new footage showing exactly what happened. they say that they have this plan in the works for weeks. they knew that there were two buildings, residential buildings where these four hostages were being held there about 650 feet 200 meters from each other. they actually built models of these buildings so that the troops that will be part of this rescue mission could actually train on this so this is where the operation took place. now they say also there were hundreds of personnel that were involved in this it's operation. and they did, in their words, successfully rescue four israeli hostages. they did lose one israeli soldier in the mission but there has been backlash given the devastation that they left behind more than 270 palestinians were killed according to the hospital director just where those bodies were brought to and also the gaza media office and hundreds more were injured. now the idf says, they believe that number was less than 100 cnn has no way to independently confirm or verify either of those numbers, but there has been criticism, claims of mass okay. from merck, from some neighboring countries, including from the eu's top diplomat. but israel has pushed back saying it is hamas's fault because they are hiding hostages amid the civilian population. but certainly there have been some very heated responses to what we have seen and we we did see one of the hospitals, the al-aqsa martyrs hospital, as struggling to cope with the sheer number of trauma cases coming through. jessica. >> all right. paula hancocks force in tel aviv. thanks so much let's bring in scene and global affairs analyst barak ravid. now, he's also the politics and foreign policy reporter for axios. barak. let's start first with benny gantz quitting the emergency government. this was not a surprise. this was long anticipated. it also allows netanyahu to stay in power. so what does this move actually do? two and what is the fallout from this hi, jessica, i think first what this movie does is that it takes away from benjamin netanyahu this sort of bulletproof vest that he wore in the last eight months that was called benny gantz and this bulletproof vest defendant ateneo around the world because it gave his government, let's say more moderate appeal. >> if you can call it this way, i'm not sure that's even an accurate description, but the more let's radical right-wing aroma. >> okay. and now it's gone and i think this will change the way many governments around the world, first and foremost, the biden administration, but also governments in europe, governments in the ehr world, the way they look at the israeli government. and this is something we haven't had for 80 months. and i think this is a whole new chapter now with how the world looks at this war and so to that point, some analysts do believed that this resignation could lead netanyahu, like you're saying, to lean more on his far-right allies in this government. >> what might that look like it's not going to look nice i'll tell you that because we know exactly what itamar ben gvir and but salah small fish, one they want to occupy the gaza strip permanently. >> the one to rebuild settlements in gaza. they want to destroy and toppled the palestinian authority in the west bank. and they want to invade lebanon so if you take all of that together, i think we're looking at quite a lot of potential for moves that will escalate the situation. >> and can they one of his government said, i'm the guy with the hands on the wheel. i'll make sure that sound decisions will be taken, but we already have the track record and we know that he cannot really control the government and it cannot really stop them from pushing for their own policies. so i think it's a matter of concern. >> yeah. >> let's talk to about this military operation in central gaza that led to the rescue of the four hostages yesterday, we're getting new details as time goes on. the idf says that hostages were being kept in separate residential buildings. the three males and one, the one female other, you've reported a hamas operative was holding three of the hostages in his own family's apartment. this is something that the idf has talked about. and also that the us government is talked about at these hamas tactics to embed themselves in civilian areas. so tell us more about what you're learning and how that strategy that hamas use it there's complicates a rescue mission like this well, i think it's on the one hand, it complicates the stress commission on the other hand, it gave a sort of opportunity because what some eyewitnesses in the nuseirat refugee camp said was that some of the special forces who were part of this operation we're came there as displaced palestinians. >> this was their disguise and others came as, as if they were part of hamas military wing. those, this was, those were the two covers. that the special forces used. and in this specific area, it worked but i think that as the national security adviser, jake sullivan told dana bash just this morning a lot of the reason we saw so many civilian casualties in this operation was that those hostages were hitting in civilian homes inside a refugee camp and when you go on such an operation and there's those quite a robust firefight after those hostages were rescued. and we send the results is a lot of civilian casualties. >> and you mentioned just before i let you go, you mentioned jake sullivan, the national security visor. he was on with our colleague, dana bash or layer two more this morning and he said a ceasefire deal between israel and hamas is the only credible path forward. has this rescue mission affected those talks that are ongoing? tony blinken, the secretary of state, is headed to the middle east this upcoming week to try to continue to get some momentum on those. do you think it has any effect? >> i'm sure it has, but i don't think we still know what kind of effect exactly meaning what i hear from both israeli officials who are dealing with the negotiations and use officials were dealing with the negotiations they say that it can go either way meaning on the one hand, hamas can say in the immediate term, okay, we're not negotiating, that's it. you did this operation will not negotiate on the other hand, in the more interim this could be a way for the more sinking in among hamas leadership of the notion that they might lose more hostages that will be rescued, rescued in more of the special operations, every hostage the israeli is rescue is taking leverage away from hamas. so there are people think that this operation may be actually encourage commands say, we can get this deal. now, let's get this deal now brock ravid, always great to have your analysis. >> thanks so much. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> coming up a conversation with actress hilary swank, who's putting her voice behind ukraine's efforts to raise hundreds of millions of dollars for its recovery as it fends off russia's the invasion. and former president donald trump back on the campaign trail in las vegas attacking president biden on the border and inflation. just one day before he's du to meet with a so patient officer after his hush money conviction you're in the san and neutral this election season, stay with cnn with more reporters on the ground. >> and the best political team in the business follow the voters, follow the results, follow the facts welcome cnn how far would you go to control the fragrance in your home? 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it seems so far away we live here in america. what would you say to them? >> well i would say to them, it's really easy. >> we not even think about what's going on there because it's really challenging. >> it's really difficult. >> but we are blessed with the freedom we have in the united states in a lot of the other countries that need to be doing something to help others. >> and the bottom line is, i chose to be an ambassador in the medical area because hundreds of hospitals have been bombed. one of the statistics that i just learned, which is really harrowing two, is that thousands of mothers are having their babies prematurely because of the stress of the war and when they have those premature babies, there's no incubators. so these babies are dying as a mother than i know there's millions of other mothers out there who hold their babies tight, loved their babies these mothers aren't able to hold their babies anymore because of war. and it's we've got to do something about it. it's it's as people as all one people we need to stand united. and help. so there's also more than one 1,000 schools destroyed another statistic that i just learned that i think is important for people to know which i had no idea 20,000 babies and children have been abducted or legally deported from ukraine into russia to help them raise their population. >> this is just criminal and we have to raise awareness. we have to do something about it. >> that's very, very sobering statistics. you're laying out their giles. the un says more ukrainian civilians were hurt in this war last month than in a year your award documentarian who studies the cost of conflict. so you know this very well and you personally know it very well. tell us why it is important. it's so important to safeguard civilians in this war we'll just get thanks for havi'e been documenting conflict for over 20 years as a photographer and a writer. one of the things i've seen in all the russian wars of aggression is the attacks on health care facilities. so in ukraine, over 1,600 healthcare facilities have been destroyed roy, by russia. this is what they did in syria. it's all they did in check. now, it's a pattern. they continue to follow. and so for my work, as well as being a photographer, i always have a foundation. the legacy of war foundation. we work in partnership with the united 24 providing health care facilities in what's known as the gray area. the area is very near the front line, whereas hillary said people are going out without basic medical health care. so if you imagine a young mother, it's impossible to get to a hospital which can take days to get to the dangers of doing that. the local health, health care facilities or damaged and what doctors and nurses are telling me is that sadly the only see patients when it's too late and so that's clearly his really motivated you to take part in this. i'm interested to hear your thoughts too. we saw president biden speaking at that d-day event, marking the 80th anniversary, norman de last week about the importance of democracy and the dangers of he said, tyrants like putin how critical is it? ukraine win this war quietly vital. and i'll let you i'll let you speak to that giles. giles and i have done a lot of humanitarian work together and he he works onto this daily. so i'll let you speak to that sorry. >> i didn't mean to interrupt you, hillary, as we go back a long way, as henry said, and we have seen the impact of the more, for example, in syria, which was the same russian aggression putin has continued this. putin will not stop until he has stopped i live in europe. i find to ukraine very regularly. i find to poland and then catch a train. and you become very aware that literally two hours, 1.5 hours from london and then i'm on the border with ukraine and what is happening there is a threat to democracy, is a threat to europe and it's a threat to the world as i say, it's 20 years. i've been documenting what putin does in he has to be stopped and hillary, to that end, its now you are taking this moment in time, this particular moment to take part and du, what you can to raise awareness was there a moment when you said you're obviously you've worked in this in this general space for awhile. >> but was there a moment when it crystallized for you that you wanted to speak out on behalf of ukrainians it's a great question. >> thank you yeah. >> giles and i have we were in lebanon with the syrian refugees helping syrian families fit syrian families out of encampments. and when you get the opportunity to actually visit people, then you realize you really are one people. and that we all just desire to be with our loved ones, see our loved ones thrive and live and now that i'm a mom of newborn babies, it's crystallized even deeper for me there's no words that you can say when you see this firsthand. it's like i said, it's really easy to be in the comfort of your own home and not really have an understanding what's going on. but if we can all just open our eyes and stand together to stop the atrocities. we can do it and we need to do it. >> it's, it's it's of the utmost importance and so with that in mind, giles, if someone's

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