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failures, and the surgeon general of the united states declaring gun violence a public health crisis. this move, one of the strikes longest tools his office has. the surgeon general is our guest and a family is desperate for answers this morning after a woman disappears while attending we'll go retreat in bahamas. new details on the search i'm kate bolduan, this era signer and john berman, this is cnn news central he might as two days to cnn's historic debate and the countdown right now is entering a cripple a window with president biden hunkered down at camp david and facing a flurry of new advice are new reporting this morning, it binds outside biden's campaign are urging him to not talk about his own first-term policies on the debate stage, but instead focus on going after former president donald trump today, a new attack ad from biden's team he was taking direct aim at trump's economic plans. >> also this morning, the only person who has ever debated both men is sharing her list of dos and don'ts for the american people as they listened to thursday's debate in a brand new, new york times op-ed, hillary clinton told voters, when you see these two men side-by-side, think about the real choice the election is between chaos and competence. >> as for donald trump, he is in florida today doing debate prep, his way. >> we are closely covering both campaigns. first, arlette saenz, as live outside the white house for us. what is the latest from the biden team? >> well, sarah president biden's debate preparations went late into the evening as he and his team are really trying to use every last minute to prepare for the showdown against donald trump on thursday. now, biden's advisers have signaled there are three areas where they wanted really draw a contrast with trump on the debate stage that includes abortion democracy and the economy. and cnn has learned that outside advisers have been giving the president and his team advice when it comes to making their economic arguments sources have said that they have relayed to the biden team that they believe that biden should focus less on taking a victory lap about his own economic accomplishments and focus more or on drawing that contrast, going on offense and attacking trump's vision for the economy. it comes as there are urging biden to really try to tie trump to corporate america, while also highlighting the inflationary nature of some of his economic plans. part of the concern is that biden's record attack times while he has been a very quick to try to promote it, it is just isn't something that's sunk in with voters just yet with many still harboring very deep reservations about the state of the economy and how the president has handled it. now the biden campaign today is really trying to lean into who they are economic arguments, releasing this new ad, trying to portray the former president of someone who is only looking out for himself and not the american people. take a listen donald trump loves to attack joe biden. you buy joe biden because he's focused on revenge and he has no plans to help the middle-class he just gave more tax cuts to the wealthy. here's the difference. donald trump is only out for joe biden is fighting for your family and the president's team is also once again attacking the former president for his recent criminal convictions, michael tyler, the communications director for the campaign, said in the statement, quote, the american people deserve better than a white color crook it was only in it for himself. >> that's why they fire donald trump in 2020. and it's why joe biden will beat him again in november. so the campaign starting to preview some of the possible attack leinz, that president biden could love trump's way. in this debate. two men prepare to face off for the first time since 2020. >> all right. thank you. or lead or laying or train house trump's spending his de i know he's been spending some time talking about and making fun of president biden, who is hunkered down, studying for the debate donald trump and his team are trying to draw a sharp contrast with the debate preparations. so unlike joe biden, donald trump has been pretty active on the trail we saw over the weekend he was at a rally in philadelphia. he also spoke at a christian conservative conference in washington dc yesterday, he went to a fundraiser in new orleans blends today and tomorrow he will be at mar-a-lago. i'm told he will continue to have some of those policy discussions that his team is really dubbing as their version of debate prep. he has the debate on thursday after that, he will fly directly to virginia and stay overnight at his golf club and sterling. and then friday, he has as a rally in virginia, but luck and arlette touched on this a little bit, but donald trump and his team, they also do not know which version of donald trump is going to show up on the debate stage on thursday. i know from my conversations with trump's advisers that they have been arguing and trying to push him to walk away from some of the aggressive rhetoric we've seen him use in past debates, particularly that first debate with biden in 2020, where he barely let joe biden get a word and and we saw donald trump be impacted by that negatively in the polls following that debate. and so what they've been doing is really having these, i'm told more than a dozen policy discussions with lawmakers jurors potential vice presidential contenders, former trump administration officials with donald trump to hone in and sharpen his rhetoric on many of the topics that are, let laid out about the economy abortion, american democracy. and they really want donald trump to focus on specific policy issues, particularly those like the economy immigration, and crime, that they think he pulls higher at. now, we did here, donald trump touch on a bit how he thinks he is preparing. take a listen to how we put it in a podcast interview yeah. >> are you preparing? i'm preparing by taking questions from you and others if you think about it, but i'm preparing by dealing with you. you're tougher than all of them. >> now, sarah, i will say that donald trump saying that he's taking these questions from people i'd argue that we did see that over the weekend and philadelphia, it was a fend friendly crowd. he is speaking with different media host. again, i'd argue friendly interviewers, but they are still, of course doing their homework behind the scenes and trying to prepare for this they recognize how much of a high-stakes debate that they are going to be on on thursday. and so i think behind the scenes they're going to continue to be sharpening their messages similar to what biden is doing, just not calling it that sara i'm a layman train and arlette saenz. >> thank you to both of you. >> so hillary clinton doling out her debate advice this morning, weird sara talking about that, arlette talking about debate advice coming at president, coming to president biden from outside advisers. but what about lessons learned from the view of the voter, from a man who studied debates for 30 years, engaged voter reaction at nearly every general election showdown. >> since night 1992, i'm talking about frank lance, a longtime pollster and communication strategists writing this in part in a piece for the new york times i've sat with small groups of voters selected from pools of thousands of undecided voters nationally watching more than two dozen presidential and vice presidential debates in real time. and it's still amazes me that miniscule moments, verbal miscues, and mis-remembering little details can matter so much in the spin room and a partisan pendens afterward. yet those things often have little to no discernible impact on the opinions of many people watching at home franklin's is here with me now it's always good to see a frank thanks for being here. >> but otherwise, the pundits are not happy with that, really, yeah, a couple of them, two shots at me because they think that their views matter more than the voters themselves. >> so we know that's not true, and we know that voters look at things differently so what is then it begs the question, if those don't have a discernible impact, what does have a discernible impact? >> what do you consider? i don't know if there's a most consistent lesson learned when you're sitting with voters watching these debates in real time be likable. >> he's funny be specific. answer the question. don't go over the time limit. i don't know if that actually made it into the piece, but it really agitates people when the bell rings, they expect you to shut up and that does not happen and nobody realizes that voters really get angry if you go on and on and on donald trump lost that first debate against show biden because he never stopped. now, biden himself could have been really punished for saying to the president, you got to shut up no one's ever said that to president of the united states before trump didn't get away with it suburban undecided middle-class women looked at this guy and said, you know what, he doesn't remind me of my first husband he reminds me of my first husband's lawyer it was too much it was too loud. trump in the second de was much more effective and they had a much better response they'll also you highlight in your commentary sum of the moments in debates past that you think had a real impact in shaping voter opinion afterward, let me play some of those moments. >> let's listen who stand there in the polling place and make a decision i think when you make that decision, it might be well, if you would ask yourself are you better off than you were four years ago? we need fundamental change in this country, and that's what i'd like to bring. >> you've confirmed once again the fundamental decency and generosity of the american people. and that's why i'm sure that are brighter days are still ahead if i win i am going to instruct my attorney general to get a special prosecutor to look into your situation. it's just awfully good that someone with the temperament of donald trump is not in charge of the law in our country. >> because you'd be in jail what is it about these moments? >> what is it about those moments? you think struck a chord and had such an impact? what, what does this represent? >> because nobody expected donald trump to say that. and the pundits really condemned from doing it. and our voters said, wait a minute. he's holding her accountable. it's about time that politicians are held accountable. that's one of the great frustrations and america too, i was so angry because when you think politicians will say and do anything, and then actually do exactly the opposite of what they promised, even if he's or even if he would be even if he's kind of suggesting he would be like thank directing his justice department to go after a political opponent. >> and that's exactly what the pundit said. and the voters, santa he's actually going to do this. i want someone who's that who's going to look plea straighten the i in the opposite was barak obama looking people in saying, i get you, i understand you. i appreciate you. i applaud you. >> voters are looking for someone to speak to them, to look at them to mean what they say, say what they mean, and do what they promised to do. hillary clinton is out today with a paste. are talking about her lessons learned if you well from her debate experience, as she says, she's the only person to have that debate stage debating both of these men. she said at one point, it's a waste of time to try to refute mr. trump's arguments, like in a normal debate, it's really impossible to identify what his arguments even our, he starts with nonsense and then regresses into bladder. she also speaks to in this piece, the expectations that people may have going in to debate what role does voters expectations have on the success or failure of a candidate and intubate him. >> you learned a lot and the trump campaign really, really attacked biden saying you can't complete a sense, she can complete a thought. the expectations for joe biden are so low, just as they were for george w bush in 2001. reason why they taught bush beat al gore, even though goal is better on substance, is because bush was able to put together, okay, heron's powerful argument. voters were expecting nothing and they got a lot because of donald trump. voters unexpected much from joe biden and the visa able to demonstrate that he is still presidentially still got it. he still is passionate about what he's doing, not what he's done. because one last thing to say it's not just about your record of the last four years is about what you're going to do over the next four if he can show that the knee is going to exceed the expectations. have donald trump, the stake only set for him? >> you make in this point at the end in the end, it's not the facts the policies, or even the one the one-upmanship that mr. biden and mr. trump offer in the debate that matters. >> it's how they make voters feel and that seems to me, that seems really the biggest challenge how do you get it? speaking to people's emotions and impacting people's emotions. how does any candidate plan plan for that going into a debate? >> because they have to know what emotion to trying to appeal to and that's the right question. look, i don't smile enough i'm actually relatively happy person, but i don't show it on camera to mistake for me trump shows that he's going to fight for voters. he is successful in that just joe biden to have that same phyton him. does he have that same commitment in him does he have the energy that trump has? people believe that joe biden is more trustworthy, is more, has more integrity. that's not the argument here the argument is, what am i going to do over the next four years on affordability, by the way, not inflation, right? affordability immigration. what am i going to do to make your day-to-day life better, which everyone makes that point, is the one who wins the debate we'll say it together and you will with voters once again, it's good to see you, frank. >> thank you so much. >> thank you for having me and a reminder, president biden and former president trump will face off for their first debate of the 20 hey, 24 electron right here on cnn dana bash, jake tapper, they will be moderating all happening live this thursday, 9:00 p.m. eastern john, wright, urgent searches underway for an american woman who went missing in the bahamas new developments on the investigation this morning, a reckoning for conspiracy theorist alex jones, new details on what he will have to give up in order to pay the one $1.5 billion. he owes for defaming families who lost children in the sandy hook elementary school shooting and we are standing by as a major us dam is on the brink of collapse officials say the dam is in imminent failure condition as new rain this morning could be the 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