states and around the world, i will blitzer a, you're in the situation room a live view from cnn studios in atlanta, where anticipation is building for a presidential debate. hello, like any other think if you're donald trump is going to take away this sort of circus-like atmosphere that we saw in previous debates. >> the interrupting that's what a yellowing the surface now alpha off of the crowd energy. and i think in some ways it didn't poses a seriousness to donald trump that he wouldn't get otherwise if it was a sort of crowd like atmosphere. and so in that way, i think that advantages him, right? i think the disadvantage for somebody like donald trump is you have to be serious. you have to fill up the time with coherent arguments, coherent talking points. so we'll see if he's able to do that. it's a two-minute he has time to respond, but he's got to talk policy and he doesn't often like to do that. listen, i think biden is an experienced debater. he, if you look at sort of the field of democratic candidates and democratic presidential candidates he wasn't always the strongest, but he's got a record to sell. he's got to figure out if he wants to how much he wants to sell that record, how much he wants to criticize. donald trump's record? for posture an anti-democratic ways in i think the bar for biden is very high. he has got the most to gain and lose in this. he's gotta find some moment that's going to transform this race because it has been we're remarkably stable in an advantage to trump over this last year kick kate bedingfield de you helped work. >> i biden's debate preparations. what back in 2019 and 2020, when you work through the write-off, take us behind the scenes, house all the debate preparation going on over at camp david right now. >> yeah. well, joe biden's debate prep is very methodical. he spends a lot of time going through the issues before you get to the mock debates that they're doing over these last couple of days, which is where you're really standing behind a podium having somebody play your opponent going through the full format. he spends a lot of time with his team i'm going through the issues, working through answers, giving his feedback redirecting, there's a lot of back-and-forth that means he's spending a lot of time thinking about the substance, but also means he spending a lot of time absorbing where he wants to be and how to make those arguments so that he's ready to do it on stage. it's less about memorizing details and more about absorbing the arguments, thinking about how he wants to make them and then you get to the mock debates and i can tell you from having prepped him to debate in 2019 in the primary against democrats? debate prepping to debate donald trump is a very different beast. so in these final mock debates that they're doing where they're going through the full debate and sort of letting the format run, letting biden test what it's like to be across from trump for 90 minutes. in some ways, they're really trying to prepare him 4, the unimaginable. they're trying to prepare him for very personal attacks, 4 attacks on his family, potentially for some of the worst of donald trump. and so there's a very i want to say almost freewheeling atmosphere around it. there's no holds barred. the person playing trump doesn't feel feel like i can't really say that awful thing that donald trump might actually say to joe biden there's a lot of work to prepare for that because it's a very unique and challenging situation keyword, unique? yes exactly. exactly. sure. michael signal through this this is real trump advisers. certainly want them to focus in during the course of the debate. i have some key policy issues, but i want you in our viewers to listen to what he told with trump told some black business leaders today, listen to this it's just a terrible thing as weaponization and it comes out of the white house even when it's city and state comes out of the white house in order to attack a political what about it? but since that happened, the black support, i think by representatives will tell you this. the black support has gone through the roof. i guess they equated to problems that they've had. but since this has happened, like the mug shot, the mug shot is the best set sure. >> michael, what's your reaction to that? i mean, i think the former president needs to change his his argument the reason that you're seeing some slight movement among black men as less to do with a mug shot and the criminal trials are the former president wolf and more about the economic conditions that many black men are currently experiencing, we know americans writ large are facing rising prices. >> many american writ large are facing having a job, but not quite having the income that meets a supersedes inflation and so if i'm advising donald trump tomorrow, and the topic comes up about african-american s, specifically men. i'm going to prepare some type of a policy policy position that speaks directly to what black men across this country are facing. were in georgia, a state that the former president lost by a little more than 11,000 votes president biden has an unpopular incumbent right now, we've seen new polls come out from marquette quinnipiac, and a sliver of others that showcase the foreign president has an advantage in every key battleground states, including wisconsin. if he can win back the six states he lost in 2020, that's a path to the white house. but in order to do that, in order to reach out to voters wolf, that he needs that are somewhat interesting, particularly the men of color some of what donald trump stands for economically, they want someone who's tougher, who stronger. he needs to speak directly to the plight of those individuals and not characterizations of what he believes that they're experiencing and have gone through because i don't think that's an effective message at all. you want to react to that? >> look, i think i obviously agree that for where the battleground is going to be fault here is largely on the economy. and so i think that's true for black voters. i think that's true for suburban voters, women voters mean that is going to be huge piece of the argument i would, i would disagree that donald trump has a good story to tell on this. i think biden will have a lot of ammo that he can use miss debate to harken back to some of the worst pieces of trump's economic policy from four years ago that benefited the wealthiest. that's a really powerful argument that we see that people feel like donald trump cares about his which friends he cares about big corporations isn't care about me. so i think biden will have an opportunity to really try to undermine if donald trump goes in the direction that you're suggesting here, i think you'll have a lot of space to undermine that, but i do agree broadly that this battleground is going to be fight on this question. >> i think just really quickly, if i think it will be hard, kate 4 president bind to make them that argument he's at four years younger voters, latino voters, black voters, even moderate leaning republicans, are not happy with the economic conditions under the biden administration of people do remember at least the first two years of the trump administration, the economy was strouhal, except except that wages have gone up under joe biden, jobs have been created, black unemployment is at its lowest under joe biden. biden has a very good story to tell. i have a job crappy away is i go to the metro high gas is still rising electricity that's not there there are plenty of voters who feel good about the jobs they have. i think joe biden will have a good argument to make their and importantly, a really. strong contrast with donald trump, which is where he needs to want to bring david chelyan back into this conversation as we all know, biden has been attacking trump for years and years, raising officers to questions about him. why does he think that will work again down when the american public already has a pretty good sense of what trump is all about, what biden is on hello well, one of the things that i think we do see in a lot of public opinion right now is that it's unclear how much of a sense of how the public felt during the time of the trump president that they are bringing with them into this moment in time hindsight is benefitting having the distance from that. >> hindsight is benefitting donald trump here, people have a rosier memory now of the trump administration, then voters said they felt that way at the time and to kate's point, i think joe, one of the missions for joe biden is to see if he can remind the american people what it was like to live every day in the trump administration from his perspective, he thinks that contrast is going to serve him well with the critical voters. they need to reach. i just want to make this point as we all watch this debate and i know there will be lots of like a flashy headlines of news and policy, substance and performance critiques and the like. but really, you have to watch it through the lens of these undimmed undecided persuadable voters and six battleground states and how they are going to perceive these two men tomorrow is critical to the outcome of this race. >> the work that biden needs to do and stitching together it's coalition, the coalition that one in 2020. and those are the voters that you're talking about who still favor joe biden, latino voters, young voters, black voters, but not in the numbers right now that he needs so he's got to bring those folks back to the party and then also reach across the aisle and get some of those things. on stage donald trump will contract if he wants to bring those voters who may be on the fence right now back in and show up. >> and that's why i think they were eager to do this debate. now you want to try to wait a stronger and the sooner they can draw the contrast a better for them. no question, but it's happening 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us right now. paula holly exactly. does this document become public? and what does it indicate? how the justices are leaning right now? oh, well, if the court acknowledges that this document was briefly inadvertently posted on the court's website, but it denies that it is an official opinion and says that the official opinion will come in due course. but this document shows a 6-3 opinion siding with the biden administration and allowing abortions to be performed formed in the state of idaho when necessary to stabilize a person in an emergency room setting and not waiting until that individual's life is at risk, which is what idaho law would have required. now, it's still though leaves a lot of unanswered questions because this only applies to the state of idaho and leaves unanswered what happens in other states with are conflicts between state and federal law when it comes to abortion. in fact, justice ketanji brown jackson, she called this quote not a victory because doctors will still be in the dark about exactly what the law requires of them. have three justices, dissenting, justices, thomas alito, gorsuch, focusing their dissent on the life of the unborn child now, this is the second major league out of the supreme court of an abortion-related decision. of course, the dobbs decision overturning roe v. wade, that was leaked to a news outlet a few years ago but this release is interesting because not only did it come from the court, but it also comes just one day before the cnn debate arguably the most a significant moment in the presidential race up till now i, paula, we're still waiting for some other big decisions from the supreme court in the coming days. yeah, a bit of a backlog. well, if we still have roughly ten outstanding decisions, we expect that they will really it's more opinions tomorrow, friday could go into next week. now we're still waiting for the official opinion on this abortion decision, but we're also waiting for that big case related to immunity for former president trump, which not only impacts him, but also answers questions potentially about any criminal no immunity that any former president would have. there's a big january 6 case related to writers who've been charged with obstruction and then there is really a massive case and not too many folks are talking about, but has to do with the power of federal agencies. so these are just a few of the big cases that they have outstanding and they may have to go into next week to really release all of these to the public. >> see what happens. paula reid. thank you very much. i want to bring back our political experts right now. i need leica, let me start with you. what would be the political fallout from this leaked opinion if in fact it is an official opinion that emerges. yeah. well, wasn't i think it highlights the draconian laws that exist in some of these states around reproductive freedom. and these are laws that donald trump supports. i mean, is it a real victory that now women in idaho, according this decision, who were the life-threatening condition might be able to get abortion care. i mean, that's the standard. so listen, this is a good territory abortion and abortion rights and reproductive freedom. 4 for joe biden and donald trump does not have a good answer on it. his answer is basically, state should be able to do whatever they want. they can disregard women's right to choose in whatever way and in whatever extreme way they want to. and so he hasn't really been pressed on that. this is i think going to be a big topic tomorrow ro and i think it's a strong suit for biden and again, this decision, these are draconian laws and donald trump is apparently just fine with them. this decision, kate, as you know, what allow it abortion if the health of the mother was at stake, not just the life of the mother. >> how do you think president biden will handle this issue of abortion tomorrow night on the debate stage. yeah. well, i mean, i think he'll say we shouldn't be here. and the reason we're here is because of i'll drop and the fact that donald trump put three justices on the supreme court who overturned roe and bragged about it. and so now we're in a situation in this country where people are being denied access to medical care that they need to preserve their own life and health. there we're in a situation where ivf is now under their potential limitations on ivf on contraception. i think he will continue to make the argument that donald trump is essentially taking away your freedom. cc is taking away your right to make a choice. he is inserting the government into a decision that should be between women and their doctors. and so this will be i certainly agree with nea. this will be a very, this should be a central focus of what biden is pushing on tomorrow night. we know that it is an issue that motivates not just democrats, but independents, many moderate republicans now as he's really working to build enthusiasm to turn out his own base, but also to reclaim some of these moderate voters who helped him win in 2020. this is an issue that does that because it illustrates just how far out of the mainstream donald trump is. so let's really make an argument about extremism that lands and the last thing i'll say is it is also a way to really argue that who is president matters, that this is a decision that has an impact in your life. it's not abstract, it's feels immediate. and so that sense of immediacy, i think he can use to his benefit to you. >> sure. mike. it's clear all of us know that trump over the years has been all over the map on this sensitive issue of abortion rights for women, reproductive rights. how should he navigate this if it comes up during the debate? so the former president often says this is something that should be returned back to the states. >> and i think he's moving in the right direction. but i think he needs to go a step further back to the states in terms of a referendum,