jesse watters along with judge jeanine pirro, jessica tarlov, dana perino, and brian kilmeade. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." ♪ ♪ somebody call fire marshal jamaal bowman. joe biden almost burnt down the white house. the big guy blowing out some big flames for his 81st birthday. biden's staff posting this photo to social media thinking there is nothing wrong with the site of a man tightly gripping the sides of a table while a bonfire rages on top of his cake. the white house thinks voters concerns over biden are all a big joke with this caption, "thanks for the birthday well wishes today, every one. turns out on your 146th birthday, you run out of space for candles." reassuring. karine jean-pierre also had some jokes. try not to laugh at her assessment of the presidents stamina. >> i would put the presidents stamina, the president 's wisdom, the ability to get this done on behalf of the american people, against anyone. anyone of any day of the week. we are not going to change the minds of americans. i get that. americans are going to feel how they feel, and we are going to respect that. >> jesse: joe biden not only losing touch with what direction he is going, he is also losing touch with the younger voters. get this, a new report claims kids are not really connecting with the old man ramblings or moments like this where he mixes a britney spears and taylor swift. >> just to get here, liberty bell had to beat some tough odds, competition. had to work hard to show patients and be willing to travel over a thousand miles. you could say, even harder than getting a ticket to the renaissance tour or for britney's tour she is down in, it is kind of warm in brazil right now. >> jesse: dana, you are riding this for the president. would you put something in there that he just has no idea about and just hope you can pull it off? >> no, and i really hate it when staffers try to do that. you see it in congressional hearings, right, when the members try to be too cute by half. they will use taylor swift taylor swift barracks and try to make it look -- it is clear that the 24-year-old staffer rode it and it would be funny if the 24-year-old said it, not funny if the man or woman cannot pull it off. we had this colleague in the white house, she was the head of media affairs, one of my dearest friends in the world, and one of the things she was in charge of was what photographs of the president were released. from the white house, okay? and she was ruthless. if she would look at one thing and say, that is not going there, right? and it is not as if in today's day and age you can't get a new angle, right, it's not like you waited two weeks for the cbs to return the film and you are looking through going, wow, these pictures don't look that good. i think that the white house thinks, one, i think it is funny, the 146-year-old thing they think is funny. maybe giving a speech, it is funny once in a while, he has pulled it off, but every cycle time is not funny. also, personally, as an older person myself, on your birthday from here on out, one candle is good. you don't need any additional candle. >> jesse: but they are trying to make a joke out of it, brian. he's an old guy come he's experienced, the committee candles he is. >> brian: nobody has a problem with his age, it is the way he acts and how discombobulated he gets all the time. what little access we get to him, how many times a policy made by shouted question? what about the hostages? are they close to being out? yes. the residence of the united states, next thing you know in tel aviv or jerusalem, president of the united states as the hostage release could be imminent or close, well, it is not really close, i don't know why he said that, just doesn't want to talk to anybody. i find amazing, quickly instead of trying to solve his problem, trying to make trump seem old. i was just looking at the "atlantic" magazine story, donald trump is really old. they talk about references that donald trump always brings up the rolling stones and elton john. wow, he is ancient. that is every wedding game -- we'll talk about that in a different segment. i just think their goal now is to get donald trump front and center. "the washington post" today, we used to say avoid talking about trump, now do anything but avoid talking about trump. they set all these people that interviewed trump, why are you making him normal? why are you normalizing him? now it is go get him, cnn, go get him, cbs feared my thing is trump should get the heisman. watch the president for a while. i am enjoying this. >> jesse: the big football game on saturday, south carolina-clemson, should be a good one. judge jeanine, how will you be celebrating your birthday, with that many candles? or are we just doing one? >> jeanine: first of all, i am nowhere near, that is number one. should have had one candle. the cake is a perfect depiction, it is almost a metaphor for america. you have joe biden, who is barely holding on. you've got america engulfed in flames. and you've got kind of smirking at the rest of us. so i thought that was kind of ironic, and what dana is saying, the image that they sent out is so important, and that was a real mistake. plus, you know what, if you could blow out 81 candles in one fell swoop, i would say the guy is a pretty good -- they are not going to show that. i think maybe the biden protection racket is not protecting him the way they thought -- the way they were. maybe they are kind of saying, oh, look at this fire, maybe they will listen to axelrod, may be saying 71% of democrats don't agree that he has the ability to be president. maybe we ought to kind of ease him out. but the interesting thing to what you are saying, brian, as there are 650,000 people in america who are working who are over the age of 80, so it is not the age. we are tired of the shuffling. we are tired of the tripping, the stories that make no sense, he doesn't know the difference between beyonce, taylor swift, and britney spears. so don't get involved in the whole thing. and when karine jean-pierre says "i'll put his stamina up against anybody," you know, americans are not stupid. we know that is a lie. everyone says, what else are they lying to us about? >> jesse: it's a good point, we are not saying he doesn't have stamina for an 81-year-old. he does vehicle he's the president. but he doesn't have stamina, like, may be someone in their 40s or 50s. or maybe someone like donald trump. >> jessica: the fittest 71-year-old that ever walked the earth, according to the letter that came out yesterday. >> jeanine: good timing. >> jesse: mike >> jessica: it was not from the clock on the upper east side he got to writed of letters. i am glad you addressed the most important issue, the renaissance tour is beyonce's tour, which was huge this summer, as well as taylor swift's arrows tour. the cake picture. and i say this a lot. that picture is not really for you guys. it is for people that like joe biden. it is for democrats, people who are thinking about wishing him a happy birthday, not preparing to come out here and say this man isn't fit for office, et cetera, and the g.o.p. routinely fails at winning the online game. it is something that we talk about all the time, so the g.o.p. thinks they are really smart and funny with "let's go brandon," right, which is "f off joe biden" and dark maga when he came out with mega extremism. they create dark mandan, one of the most successful meme campaigns -- >> jesse: successful? >> jessica: selling millions of dollars of merchandise. >> jesse: the mug shot t-shirts old -- >> jessica: have you seen someone walking around with a mug shot -- >> jesse: yeah! i saw like ten t-shirts. >> jessica: at the patriot awards, it was a huge hit. i am saying joe biden, who wipes the floor with donald trump with younger voters -- >> jesse: not now. >> jessica: here we go. here is another thing. you there is a new article out that i recommend everyone look at, and it is an analysis of the different online polls for younger voters. online polls, younger voters are not leaving joe biden at all. some polls, they are. how likely is it a 25-year-old wants to sit on the phone and have a long conversation -- 9 minutes on the phone with a pollster? >> brian: just compare other polls, the same polls in the past. >> jessica: i have never said that the trend in the general election is not going against joe biden. msnbc poll, 16 times, the first time trump has been up and by two points within the margin of error. it matters to look at how these polls are taken, that is all i am saying. it also matters with the cake picture to consider the fact that they put it up on instagram and had a cute caption, right, about there was not enough space for all of my candles, it had over a million likes, well wishes for the president. you think that you are owning him by saying "oh, it is terribly lit, looks like it is going to light on fire," not one democrat had a problem with that picture. >> dana: i bet that is not true. and if you love joe biden, and i know there are many people that do, you want to always be looked at as you want him to be looked at in the best light. >> jessica: sure. >> dana: yesterday, that picture, that was not the best picture. you know the "this is fine" meme where the guy is sitting there, everything is burning around them? that is what -- >> jessica: but there is a difference -- >> dana: not for me or not. >> jessica: there is a difference between saying if that is a picture i would have chosen, 100% now, and saying -- >> dana: that's our point. >> jessica: no, it is not your point because you are saying it is a metaphor for how the white house is burning down, the world is on fire -- >> jeanine: 71% of demo democrats -- too old, even miko krasinski would say you've got to get rid of those sandbags. you think she liked that pic picture? >> jessica: the advanced person's fault. >> jesse: i like the picture of trump with the taco ball. that was a good meme. that was funny. you keep arresting the guys that make memes for us, jessica, sorry, we are doing the best we can. don't miss "special report" tonight, benjamin hall sitting down with ukrainian president zelenskyy for an exclusive interview. benjamin making his first trip back to ukraine since he was injured while covering the war. that interview is right after "the five" so don't miss it. coming up, hollywood celebrities like susan sarandon stoking more anti-semitism. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> brian: all right, breaking news now. israel inching closer to a hostage deal, fingers crossed, with hamas that could happen just hours from now. while that is going on, hollywood haters of the jewish state are out in full force. liberal actress susan sarandon traveling in blatant anti-semitism while attending several pro-palestinian rallies. the oscar-winner joining in on chants like "from the river to the sea," nice, which calls for the destruction of israel there were now marking jewish people who fear for their safety. >> there are a lot of people that are afraid, afraid of being jewish at this time and are getting a taste of what it feels like to be a muslim in this country, so often subjected to violence. it's important to listen. it's important to have facts. try to take a breath before you answer. and if it is possible, have a conversation. we need a cease-fire now. >> brian: there you go. but it looks like words have consequences. talent agent, one of the biggest in the business, says sarandon is no longer wrapped by them. academia continues to be a cesspool of israel hatred. another case in point, professor at wake forest university who posted a vile fantasy on social media saying "tempted to shoot up the dance parties just like hamas terrorists did on october 7th." the radical professor residing over that and she is now whining that the school threw her to the wolves and disappointed her. jesse, you feel as though susan sarandon has a point? [laughter] >> jesse: i am shocked she got dropped because this isn't anything new for susan. susan called the pope a nazi, susan called the nypd fascists, so i see what she is saying here, and the head of uta is jewish, i believe, a lot of jewish people that work for uta, they were upset. it seemed like they could have seen this coming and it could have been managed over many, many years but listen, i guess there is a line now, everybody knows where it is. i don't see the comparison because after 9/11, you know, perhaps muslim americans were singled out at the airport, but other than that, i don't remember a lot of people chanting in the streets "gassed the muslims" come i don't remember muslims being murdered like a guy at the protest in los angeles. none of that actually happened. they wanted to put a mosque by ground zero. that was the worst of it, from what i recall. his other profession are, this is what i like to see happen. i want to see these donors dangle money in front of the universities. remember how joe biden dangled a million dollars in front of ukraine? i would do that. you are not getting this million dollars if the entire creative writing department isn't fired. that is how you have to do it. there is a lot of rancid hate coming out of the universities. >> brian: wright, a source that i know, i talked to them, and she apologized initially and came back and doubled down the next day, dana, and that is when they said this is the easiest decision ever, we are done with you. >> dana: some of the people that defended her said there is a first amendment right for the first amendment right to keep you out of jail. it doesn't mean that you won't have consequences for things that you say. and i suppose she is wealthy enough that it doesn't really matter, does she really care if uta drops her? probably glad i do not have to pay that commission anymore, fine, see you later. the other thing happened yesterday, sheryl sandberg who used to be with facebook and part of the clinton administration, she put out a video asking women to think about for one second speaking up on behalf of the women who were raped in israel in the raid on the terrorist attack. it seemed like me, that is just something that should happen. the u.n. women's group still have not said anything they still will not do that. i look at some of these people, we have a block on iran coming up. for women who have been successful, to just turn such a blind eye to the suffering of other women, regardless of who they are, what they look like, or where they live, is really appalling to me appeared >> brian: jessica, your thoughts on the dropping of susan sarandon and the continued craziness on campus? >> jessica: i think it was definitely the right decision. retracting your apology, whether you knew she espoused crazy views, which everyone does know, doesn't make a difference, it is important what she said. it will unfortunately for anti-semites just continue to fuel the "jews run hollywood, jews r control the money closed within. something i've been taking about a lot and i know the judge wants to talk about this aspect of it, too so i will not go too long on it, you know, all of these so-called allies of the arab world, are very quiet as arabs are murdered en masse under normal circumstances. when assad kills millions and displaces them. >> brian: years. >> jessica: decades. i thought this was astounding. israel was created in 1948, right? necessary because 6 million jews were killed and camps or in ovens, and since then, 11 million arabs have been killed and less than .03% of them have been killed by israelis. right? so the rest of the arab world, they are the ones who are usually doing the dirty work here. we don't hear anything about it. there are groups, i am sure, that talk about it. people aren't taking to the streets talking about what is going on in yemen or who is being pushed out, and the only difference is that jews are involved now, and they don't talk for a second about over 1200 people were killed, like you said, i thought sheryl sandberg's view was hugely powerful. the way that they were murdered, that is not battle, that is not warfare, that is torture. and carnage. >> brian: great points. that was awesome. thelma and louise three, she no longer hast no my house to pay commission, so that will be a big relief for her. what are your thoughts on the matter? >> jeanine: look, she has always been an off-the-wall liberal. i don't respect her opinion and i think it is appropriate that uta dropped her, that is number one. number two, she is so worried about the muslims, i mean, her quote is that, you know, you know, they finally get to feel -- the jews finally get to feel the way muslims i felt. she has no idea what she is talking about. first of all, there are 50 majority muslim countries in this world where muslims can do and say what they want. they can act out their religion. they can live their lives according to, you know, their religion and how they want to live. there is one jewish country. and it is a very small one, at that. and yet she is so upset about it. and, you know, as jessica said, we have been talking about this for years, isis beheaded tens of thousands of muslims, nobody marched, nobody called for a cease-fire. the saudi arabians killed the yemeni. it reminds me of black lives matter. black lives matter only matter if there is a cop killing a black life. and as it relates to the arabs, the only time that the arab lives matter is if a jew kills them. or if a jew is killing them pursuant to the laws of war that are appropriate after you suffered a massacre of medieval proportions, they don't even recognize the law, so i do not see this woman as that bright, that knowledgeable about history, about where we aren't about the the fact that anti-semitism has risen now, what is it, 400%. she is not worried about it. it even took a muslim woman, i think her name was nora astron, we talked about the fact, they don't understand what it is like for us. we can't say in our own country what we can say in america, so shame on susan sarandon. >> brian: the whole arab world will tell you they love hamas eradicated come off the face of the earth, and iran is the problem. fundamentally, going to be sitting here, it is all going to come down to iran, without them there is really no issue. 24 minutes after the hour come up next come brazen flash mob robberies are back for the holidays but the liberal media says it is no big deal. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> jessica: flash mob robberies are not going away for the holidays. shocking surveillance videos show as many as 17 massive suspects rushing into a nike store in los angeles and looting $12,000 worth of good. putting a spotlight on california's shoplifting prices. the sheriff of sacramento county thinks the problem is voters getting tricked into a reform plan, that reef classified felony theft as misdemeanors. speak with the voters who voted for this, i think the voters were duped on this. california as long as you stay below 950 you can do that all day every day and the most you will get is a citation. 20 or 30 times in one day and not go to jail. big box retail, they are taking record losses, charging us more, and they have to go ahead and change the law. initiative back to the voters. >> jessica: while that is happening, critics are accusing cnn of blowing off concerns about retail theft over this headline, saying "what america's shoplifting panic is really about." goes on to argue, anxiety over shoplifting is an enduring phenomenon come off in a standard for a larger cultural, economic, or in political changes. judge come i to go to you about what the sheriff was saying, putting it back on the retailers, they have the money to get one of these ballot initiatives going, to send it back to the voters. >> jeanine: the point he makes is good come of the voters were