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down the legal ladder, keeping it on the market for the foreseeable future. also, the president of the united states huddling with world leaders at the g7 summit in italy ahead of a highly anticipated news conference with ukraine's president zelenskyy. the former president returns to the capitol right near the scene of the most controversial moment of his time in office on january 6th, shoring up support among republican lawmakers and business leaders with hopes of returning to the white house. ♪♪ a very good day to all of you. i'm alex witt in for andrea mitchell. a major ruling from the supreme court today. it's unanimous. the widely used abortion pill mifepristone can stay on the market. the supreme court rejected a challenge to the drug brought by anti-abortion doctors who question the food and drug administration's authority to ease access to the pill saying the groups had no legal standing. writing for the court, justice kavanaugh said, while plaintiffs have sincere legal, moral, ideological and policy objections to the regulation of the drug, that doesn't mean they have a federal case. president biden reacting to supreme court ruling last hour. nbc news washington correspondent yamiche alcindor is joining us from the supreme court and barbara mcquade joining us as well. welcome. yamiche, reading from this ruling, justice kavanaugh writes, the plaintiffs have failed to demonstrate that fda's relaxed regulatory requirements likely would cause them to suffer an injury in fact. for that reason, the federal courts are the wrong forum for addressing the plaintiffs' concerns about fda's actions. yamiche, big picture discussion about the major impact this has on women and reproductive rights in this country. >> good afternoon. this is, as you noted, the most significant abortion ruling put out by the supreme court since two years ago when this court overturned roe v. wade, the 6-3 court. they are saying the doctors who oppose abortion and anti-abortion groups didn't have the standing to bring this lawsuit to try to force the fda to not have the approval and to not have this mifepristone pill be approved nationwide by mail, telehealth visits. what we are seeing the justices saying, this group of people were not the right people. there are people who are underscoring that means they are leaving the door open to see if others, patients that might claim they were harmed by mifepristone or doctors who say they were forced to administer mifepristone, that they could bring a different kind of separate case. that being said, today in a decision written by kavanaugh, who hinted at the way that he was looking at this during oral arguments -- as one point he said, doesn't federal law prohibit doctors who oppose abortion from being forced to provide abortion care? you saw even conservative justices during the oral arguments questioning the standing of the doctors here and people who brought the lawsuit. overall, the fda was arguing mifepristone is very safe. it's something that women across this country can use safely. we know that something like the majority of women who have access to abortion, that they do it through medication abortion, something like 63% of women do that. that number has gone up since roe v. wade was overturned. the court is saying, mifepristone, access is the same. if you are wondering, watching this case saying, am i going to have access? the answer is, yes, for now. a lot of democrats that i have been texting with, including senior advisors from the biden-harris campaign, are underscoring what the president has been saying, really this just means the drug is safe for now. in practice, someone else could come and sue and take away access to this bill or in particular, the former president trump could be elected and ban it. a lot going on. the access to the pill remains the same. >> you keep on saying, right now, for now. let's pick up on that with you, barbara. >> the court said that our clients don't have standing in this case. we are grateful the case will continue with three states working to hold the fda accountable for its reckless actions. >> is she right? is it going to continue? if so, where does this go next? back to the states? >> this case itself will not continue because these plaintiffs lack standing. standing is the rule that says, you have to have actual skin in the game, that you are going to suffer some harm under this law. what the court said today is that these doctors who say that maybe some day i might possibly have to perform an abortion, if mifepristone doesn't work the way it's supposed to and as justice kavanaugh said, it's too speculative. they have the ability to opt out under these conscious objector standards. what erin is referring to is this battle rages on elsewhere in other states. mifepristone is banned in 16 states already. there are other challenges to this drug pending in other courts. i think she's made it clear that although in this case, mifepristone continues to survive another day, but it's still under assault in many places in the united states. >> yamiche, this patchwork, it's like a patchwork of abortion laws and restrictions in this country, it's confusing, not just for patients but for doctors, too. yamiche, are you plugged? >> yes. i wanted to make sure you were asking me that. it's very confusing for doctors and patients. i should tell you i have talked to a number of doctors who say there's this chilling affect. even if the supreme court and local supreme courts are saying that you can have access to abortion in these certain ways, you think of places like texas where you say women bring a lawsuit that said they wanted -- they wanted the texas supreme court to clarify whether or not there are instances where you can have an abortion under emergency circumstances, they lost that. they are saying there are doctors that they could be put in prison for giving women health care, emergency access to care if they were having complications with abortion, a miscarriage. a lot of confusion around the country. i have been talking to women and doctors in particular who say they are scared because the landscape is shifting and unclear. >> absolutely. a lot more discussion to come. thank you both. a tale of two presidents. president biden talks global policy with america's allies overseas. former president trump holds court in washington. that's all next when "andrea mitchell reports" is back in 90 seconds. indigestion iberogast bloating iberogast thanks to a unique combination of herbs, iberogast helps relieve six digestive symptoms to help you feel better. six digestive symptoms. the power of nature. iberogast. ♪ you need t-mobile... ♪ ♪ home internet with 5g. ♪ wait! t-mobile has home internet? 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>> reporter: alex, good afternoon. as you said, the g7 leaders agreeing to give ukraine this $50 billion loan. it comes from $300 billion in frozen russian assets around the world. $50 billion of that is interest income over the next ten years. the g7 leaders want to give that money up front to ukraine right now to help with the war effort. behind me in a short time, president biden and president zelenskyy are set to announce an executive agreement between the two countries. here is what it does and here is what it doesn't do. it commits the u.s. to a long-term security agreement with ukraine, essentially for ten years. the u.s. is committing to train and equip ukrainian soldiers. here is what it doesn't do. it doesn't commit u.s. soldiers from going into ukraine territory to defend it. this all comes amid growing tensions across the world. there's a host of topics that will come up here at this g7 summit, including concerns over artificial intelligence, the global economy and infrastructure around the world. president biden just spoke at a roundtable a short time ago and laid out the stakes. >> i think we stand at an inflection point in history. it occurs every five, six, seven generations. the decisions we make now will determine the course of our future for the next five or six decades. i truly believe the investments we are taking will set that course on a stronger path. >> reporter: this executive agreement between the u.s. and ukraine, it's not a treaty. it does not need to be ratified by congress. in theory, the next administration could walk away from it if president biden is not re-elected. >> okay. i'm sure that doesn't come as a comfort to zelenskyy. let's move to you, ali. today will be the first time that donald trump and senate republican leader mitch mcconnell are in the same room since before january 6th. what is donald trump's goal there today in d.c.? what is the subtext of his visit? >> reporter: the first time that mcconnell and trump will be in the same room, but also potentially the first time they have spoken, if they speak at all directly, in that larger meeting with trump and senate republicans. he just wrapped up what some people here are calling a pep rally, with house republicans. certainly, that lasted for an hour this morning and touched on a range of issues from abortion and other key policy issues for the 2024 election. it also included house republicans singing a very early rendition of "happy birthday" to the former president. many of them leaving that room and almost acting like it was a congressional coronation of sorts for the man who is the next republican nominee and who will resume his mantle as the gop standard bearer. trump is in the midst of meeting with business executives. we have seen the ceo of eli lilly and bank of america walk in. it's behind closed doors. the most interesting thing that we will see is when he gets to be with senate republicans, it's going to be allies next to critics listen to the man who will lead the party into the election. while we expect several senators who have been critical of the former president not to attend -- senator murkowski, senator collins, who are citing scheduling conflicts, there's one member who is notably going to be in attendance, senator romney who said he had a flight to catch. the scheduling wasn't going to work out to be in the meeting alongside his colleagues and the president he has sparred with. but it appears his flight plans have changed. so have his plans to be at this meeting with the former president. you ask about the subtext. this is really something that looms over the capitol almost every day that we are here, which is that the january 6th insurrection and the first time that trump is back on the capitol complex, which you can think about as a college campus. it's a lot of buildings clustered around this area and around the capitol. it's his first time back here since the january 6th insurrection he fomented. >> as you were speaking, we got word that mitt romney walked into that meeting. he was accompanied by holly langford britt. he is showing up. let me move to you, peter. president biden is not only the world leader at the g7 facing political threats here at home, you have british prime minister sunak, he faces a vote next month. french president macron, he just dissolved his country's parliament. how does this add to the urgency of what the g7 is trying to achieve and how they can ensure what they agree to lasts after they are gone? gabe made that point. there are no guarantees. >> yeah. it's an unsettled moment at this g7 meeting. not only is the president facing a tough challenge from donald trump, but as you say, macron and the german chancellor saw their parties thrashed in the european elections last weekend. neither one got more than 15% of the vote. that caused president macron to dissolve his parliament and call for new national elections. prime minister sunak is not expected to be at the next g7. his elections will almost always go to the opposition. it's a moment where you have the most important leaders, a lot on their back foot. that's a problem in terms of commitment toward ukraine, if you are the ukrainian leaders. you are wondering what it's going to be like after these set of elections are held in france and britain and particularly in the united states. if you are vladimir putin watching from the sideline, you are thinking things are going well for you right now. all you have do is hang on there and maybe the west will lose its will to resist and maybe won't stand up for ukraine in the future if former president trump wins again. >> i want to thank all of you for weighing in on this. reproductive rights, the nation's largest protestant denomination votes to oppose ivf. the debate makes an impact on capitol hill and on the campaign trail. this is "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. makes trading easier. with its customizable options chain, easy-to-use tools, and paper trading to help sharpen your skills, you can stay on top of the market from wherever you are. e*trade from morgan stanley here's to getting better with age. here's to beating these two every thursday. help fuel today with boost high protein, complete nutrition you need... ...without the stuff you don't. so, here's to now. boost. want to save on some of the biggest names in streaming on the network made for streaming? x marks the spot. now you can add the new xfinity streamsaver™ that includes netflix, peacock, and apple tv+. that's xfinity streamsaver™ for just $15 a month. all your favorites. all in one place. only from xfinity. for more watching and less spending... x marks the spot. do it all on the network made for streaming, and bring on the good stuff. less than a day before today's supreme court decision to keep the popular abortion pill mifepristone on the market for now, the fight over reproductive rights played out at indianapolis at the southern baptist convention. they voted to condemn in vitro fertilization. the catalyst for the debate was a ruling by the alabama state supreme court earlier this year that frozen embryos are children. there was disagreement about ivf even at the convention. >> reporter: why are you disappointed by this resolution passing? >> i think that some of the language is a little harsher than i would like. some of the language implies that there's no use for ivf that is ethical. i know of circumstances, because my godson was conceived in this circumstance, where ivf was used in a very ethical way that's consistent with pro-life and christian ethics. >> joining me now is sara jones and jen palmieri. sara, i want to point out that you have a former christian fundamentalist. give me a quick summary. how significant is this vote by the southern baptist convention? >> absolutely. as you said, did i grow up a conservative evangelical. i went to a conservative college. we heard growing up that abortion was a sin. towards the end of my time in that world, i began to hear more about certain forms of contraception, less about ivf. there's been a study that i would argue reflects a growing radicalism within the anti-abortion movement. >> jen, the biden campaign is tieing this southern baptist vote against ivf and today abortion pill ruling, tieing it to donald trump and the supreme court that he helped shape. separately on capitol hill today, democrats are holding a messaing vote to protect ivf. republicans are expected to vote against it. how will this play leading up to the election in november? >> the southern baptist convention, that has, over many decades, been an important political barometer. it used to -- it used to be a place where you saw a lot of democrats as well. it's an important barometer for evangelicals and republicans. i saw a woman -- a former trump policy advisor talk about this on the christian broadcast network. basically, her argument was, ivf is a slippery slope. it's the same justification for abortion. if you want to eliminate ivf, are you protecting life or are you just talking about control? what is going on here? when you saw, every couple of weeks there's some reminder to america of the havoc that the overturning of roe has had on the u.s., on women's health and telling women how to have children, when they can have children, whether they can have children. this is another reminder of that. i don't understand why the senate republicans would not vote to protect ivf. i don't understand why they all voted to not protect contraception as a right when they had the opportunity to do that a couple of weeks ago. the mifepristone decision that happened at the supreme court today is good news, but it's just a stay. that case will continue in 16 states that have banned it already. the women's reproductive right, it's under assault everywhere. it goes back to trump. he is the one that created the situation. the biden team is saying, he owns this. he will do their bidding. project 2025, all of this, that's what they are attempting to -- will attempt to legislate. >> indeed. "the new york times" reports that 171,000 patients traveled for abortion care last year. they went from states that have bans in place. what an economic cost to women, many of whom may not have the means to afford it, in addition to the health and mental strain they are facing. right? >> it's an extreme burden, especially on low-income women. we have known this for a long time. it hasn't mattered to the anti-abortion movement which claims it's for women, that it can balance the rights of the fetus with the rights of woman. that's not true. we can see it in the burden placed on women who are traveling extreme distances to access a basic legal right. >> right you are. jen, here is something to think about. there is supposed to be separation of church and state in our system of government. it states, congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion. the issue of abortion makes you question if that's the case. >> yeah. the other thing from this week, alex, is the recording we heard from justice alito where a person who he does not know, at a public event, put a microp

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