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congress. and former u.s. attorney general alberto gonzales is here. he'llw weigh in on holder. president obama's health care law, the supreme court could keep parts of it or strike it altogether. is the individual mandate constitutional? if it is found unconstitutional, does the whole law have to go? or can the mandate be instruct down? and is medicaid expansion constitutional? and will the tax law prevent the court from addressing the mandate issue right now? a chief correspondent, dr. sanjay gupta, also a practicing neurosurgeon, joining me here in new york. s sanjay, what happens if those benefits from the health care, could the insurance companies drop them? >> they could. that's why it's such a big deal, kyra. we've been doing investigating on this, we talked to several big insurance companies around the country. some say, listen, in spite of what may happen with the ruling tomorrow, we still will keep things the way they are. some insurance providers may choose to not change much. so if they've taken on patients who have chronic medical conditions and not charge them exorbitant premiums, they may not change that. it's possible some things could stay in effect as they are. to your point, kyra, if it's overturned, there's no law that sort of mandates that they do that. >> and the supreme court could throw out the mandate and ban the preexisting conditions. let's talk about -- we've got a list put together here of the provisions that would be left. >> yeah. it's an important part. because there's some 450 provisions in this bill, kyra, as you know. and so there's a lot of other things in there. and, again, talking to our sources, trying to piece it together, there are some key ones that i think may remain even if what you just described happens. even if the mandate goes wah. to take a look at some of the big ones. if someone has health care insurance and they become sick in the past, they could be dropped by the insurance company. it seems hard to believe but that could happen. they say that might not happen in this case. no lifetime limits is another one. i can tell you, as a doctor, kyra, people who have chronic ailments, i take care of patients, you can get to your lifetime limits quickly. no co-pays trying to encourage people to go to their doctors. also that last one, kyra, you and i talked about this, letting young people stay on their parents plan until age 26. it's a pretty big deal. and small business owners who are hiring people in that age range they also like this because they don't have to provide health care insurance then. so it makes those young people more attractive potential employees. >> and you and i have also talked about how a lot of people blame insurance companies. the government. hospitals, right? for this health care crisis. but, look, we drink. we're overweight. we smoke. >> you know, there's no country in the world or system in the world that does a great job of controlling health care costs. i'll preface by saying that. but i feel strongly about this issue of personal responsibility, like you do. you're right, in the united states, we're particularly bad at this. as you point out, you take a look at the numbers, almost three quarters of adults are either over weight or obese. about 68% i think is the exact number. 1 in 5 still smoke. both of these things right there are a big cause of health care costs. but, you know, there'sing there else, kyra, if you give me one second, just to make this point, health care insurance alone does ensure good health. keep that in mind. only half of americans were getting preventive services prior to 2010. you and i both know people who have terrifically good health care insurance and are terrifically unhealthy. there's a second beat to this story, kyra, hopefully, we'll keep reporting how to get america healthy. >> we sure will. sanjay, thanks. don't forget to join us tomorrow morning at 9:00 a.m. eastern for live coverage of the health care ruling. another case we're watching closely, speaker john boehner now says the house will vote tomorrow in holding attorney general eric holder in contempt of congress. in relation to the borned fast and furious. joe johns once again on capitol hill for us. so what do you think? sis actually going to happen. or is there still a chance for compromise, joe? >> well, kyra, what you would expect in a less politically charged atmosphere, frankly, there may still be time for that but no indication so far that it's going to happen the speaker of the house, as you indicated just a little while ago said he does plan to proceed with the vote. listen. >> we are going to proceed. we've given them ample opportunity to comply, even as late as yesterday. the white house sat down with some of our staff that outlined what they they'd been willing to do. up fortuna unfortunately, they're not willing to show the american people about what happened. it's an unfortunate place where we are. but our members raised their right hand and swear to uphold the constitution of the united states. and the loss of the united states. we're going to do our job. >> of course, the backstory here is about the national rifle association. they are counting this vote, they tell me. so that means there could be some democrats and n.ra-leaning districts to he district who feel pressured to vote against attorney general holder. they have heard from some democrats who say they're going to go with them. on the other side of the coin, the democratic leadership says there's no way to stop it. >> before i let you go, joe, you and i talked a little bit about this in the gith of tbeginning week. it's a political year which really weighs in to how much attention this is getting. because the last time a situation like this came this close was decades ago with janet reno. >> right. absolutely. i think no one can deny the political nature of this story, especially now with the national rifle association involved. they're very concerned about the issue of gun control. and in this case, they say, they suspect that this "fast and furious" operation was sort to promote a larger gun control plan. and some of that evidence, or at least inference coming from the chairman of the reform committee over in the house side darrell issa. so it's a -- there are a lot of larger things at play here. and a lot of them have to do with election year politics. >> all right. joe johns there on the hill for us. joe, thanks so much. of course, we'll have more on this contentious issue when former attorney general alberto gonzales joins me in just about 30 minutes. of all the time i've been live in iraq what went through your mind. this is the geographic south pole. ♪ the radical new macbook pro with retina display. ♪ innovation...in every dimension. ♪ [ music plays, record skips ] hi, i'm new ensure clear. clear, huh? 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landfall. the tropical storm is now a tropical depression. as george howell will tell you, it's not over yet. he's joining us now from florida. george, the florida panhandle pretty much got the brunt of the fury. what kind of damage are you looking at now? >> kyra, we are here in wacala county. this area saw at least 30 inches of rain. that is a lot of rain. as a result, you see the homes under water in the low-lying areas. what happened here, you see the story playing out throughout the state. we learned right now in hamilton county, they are dealing with the same thing, from the fast-rising rivers, again, the convergence of all the floodwaters and all the rivers coming together, flowing out into the gulf. just another day, in another county, we saw several rescues taking place. in pasco county, we know 7,000 people have been evacuated, trying to get out of the fast-rising waters, kyra. >> federal and state resources, what's being deployed? is it enough? >> at this point, we do know that fema officials, they are on the ground. they're talking to people. helping them to at least start that process of managing, figuring out what the situation is, and then starting the process to rebuild. and you also see police officials in place, in some cases, blocking roads and bridges. also making sure the drivers pay attention. because these low-lying spots on the roads, you can find water. standing water, six inches, a foot of water still there. it could take some time, kyra, for the waters to recede. >> i understand that the water rose so fast there were a lot of people that couldn't get out, yes? >> we did spend some time -- most of the residents that we spoke with, that did have time to leave. there are those who chose to stay. but i did speak to a couple just the other day, in their neighborhood, i say neighborhood very loosely because really it was a big lake. we were on a boat going down the street. and they had 15 feet. imagine that. 15 meet of water covering their homes. all we could see of their home, kyra, is just the roof. >> george howell there from florida. we appreciate it so much. we are keeping track of debby as she moves throughout the area. our chad weather -- chad weather -- that would make sense, wouldn't it -- our meteorologist chad, where is it now? >> there's all kinds. >> there's one -- >> dallas rains. >> there you go. >> things are looking up for florida. this is always the case. we always get the pictures two days after the flooding occurs. this has been a disaster now for 48 hours. maybe you're just finding out about it. let me tell you the floodwaters have been there with 30, 36, 20 inches of rainfall in any one area. finally, though, the rain has moved away. so has the storm. but there's another issue. it moved over florida, it died, obviously, because that's what happens over land. but now it's over the gulf stream, a very warm body of water that runs right up along the east coast. 45-mile-an-hour gusts. still a depression but forecasted to get bigger. it's forecast to become a tropical storm again. now, it still would be debby because it never really lost its center of low pressure. as it runs up the east coast, that's halifax, newfoundland. 45-mile-an-hour winds not going to make too much on the east coast but for the surfers, maybe surf will be up, kyra. >> chad myers, thank you so much. you can see the satellite image and the latest projected track for debby. cnn.com/hurricane. an update in the beating death of kelly thomas. we're learning you there new video between thomas. and the judge is delaying arraignment, these two cops were both charged with thomas' beating and death. the court says the recording will shed new light and bolster the case to dismiss the charges. course, it comes after prosecutors show this video of fullerton police officer beating thomas at a preliminary hearing in may. according to reports, the new report shows the conversation between ramos and thomas just before this escalated. a firestorm of epic proportions. those are the words of the colorado springs fire chief, speaking about the inferno that has already chased 32,000 people from their homes. it's now burned 6,200 acres and it's only 65% contained. jim spellman is there. >> kyra, this all changed since yesterday evening. fire crews have been fighting the fires largely in the canyons and foothills of the rocky mountains. yesterday, it changed direction. 65-mile-an-hour gusts drove the fire over the first fire line and the second fire line and into the communities. and began burning homes. immediately fire crews here called for backup. they now have 1,000 firefighters from all across the country and all over the region here battling the fire. but with these conditions, high temperatures, high winds, low humidity is making it very difficult to get ahead of it. their main focus is structure protection. trying to keep these hopes safe out in these communities here as the fire goes through it. 32,000 people at least are evacuated, including people at the u.s. air force academy. they're sleeping in hotels, floors and gymnasiums and friends and neighbors are taking them in. dire circumstances here today. could be crucial day for fire crews here as they try to get some kind of containment. still only 5% contained, this fire is. and it's going to be a long day of what's already been a long fire season. kyra. >> jim spellman. thanks so much. and help to finding a survivor under the rubble of a canadian shopping mall is fading. the roof collapsed saturday and rescuers now using a 90-ton mcarm to try to pull away concrete slabs. they suspended the efforts over years that the structure could crumble more. one person is feared dead. at least one more is believed missing. well today, there's a new new york state. one that's working to attract businesses and create jobs. a place where innovation meets determination... and businesses lead the world. the new new york works for business. find 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years. so when james durbin rocked the stage on "american idol" there were no signs of the hurdles he had yet to overcome. growing up the season 10 finalist lost a parent, was diagnosed with tourettes and asperger's syndrome and dr. sanjay gupta tells what helped him pull out of the darkness. >> you lost your father at a pretty young age? >> yeah, i was 9 years old. >> you were diagnosed with tourettes and asperger's syndrome? >> yeah. i've had different facial tics and different sounds growing up. it sounds like a really awful childhood, frankly. losing a parent, being bullied, being diagnosed, what does a 10-year-old do? >> there were things i thought about doing. >> you thought about taking your life? >> yeah, definitely crossed my mind. >> you did find another way out, so to speak of that darknessy. >> uh-huh. >> and what was it that caused that? >> it was music. it was music and theater. >> so let's say you're in a very stressful situation, what happens to you? >> a lot of violent head shaking and sometimes like squeaking and barking and coughing. ♪ ♪ don't know where i'm going >> you're on stage, obviously, lots of cameras, there's nowhere to hide so to speak at that point. what do you do then? >> i feel like in control, like something's going on i'm on stage, you are down there and i'm here, it's okay. nothing's wrong. >> just the physical act of being in that, you're on stage, performing? >> having to be social on stage with someone, even though you're just playing the role, you have to have chemistry. so that opened up a whole new world to me. >> you recently got married to mother of your child, tell me about heidi? >> she had dreams and goals and aspirations, and i just looked at myself and said, i've got to change. and thank god for her because she really helped me through it. >> thanks so much. really enjoyed it. >> absolutely. appreciate it. >> you can find out more about how james durbin overcame bullying in his own words at cnnhealth.com. 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