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league. wait until you hear who he called and maybe you'll think the call was worth it. also, you know, they make an app for just about everything out there. so many apps to keep up with, but we got one for you this morning that you might really want, an app that actually earns you money. welcome back to this "cnn saturday morning" october 22nd, 8:00 a.m. here in atlanta, georgia, 7:00 a.m. in fayetteville, arkansas, 5:00 a.m. for you folks in las vegas, wherever you may be, i'm glad you're here. i'm t.j. holmes. let's start at the top of the hour with the news that we got from the president, the war in iraq has a date to be over. the end of one of the most controversial wars in u.s. history comes after almost nine years. you'll remember the shock and awe, you'll remember the surge, this all started in march of 2003. the department of defense estimates they spent more than $700 billion just on "operation iraqi freedom" and "operation new dawn" in iraq and 4,400 u.s. service members have died in the war, another 30,000 have been wounded. listen now to the president making the announcement -- >> after nearly nine years, america's war in iraq will be over. over the next two months our troops in iraq, tens of thousands of them, will pack up their gear and board convoys for the journey home. >> athena we showed a part of what the president had to say. he had a whole lot more to say. >> reporter: well, that's right, and one of the points the president made over and over, at least twice in the announcement yesterday in the briefing room and that his aides made later he's settling a promise and keeping a commitment and he's doing what he said all along he was going to do. you remember looking back to the democratic primary last time around, candidate opposition to the war in iraq was really what set him apart. he had called it -- years before he called it a dumb war, a rash war, and during his campaign he argued that we needed to put the focus back on afghanistan and that the focus on the war in iraq had taken the ball off the real war where our efforts should be focused over in afghanist afghanistan, yesterday he came out near the top of his speech as a candidate i pledge to bring the war in iraq to a close. let's listen more of what he had to say in the weekly address this morning -- >> in iraq we succeeded in our strategy to end the war. last year i announced the end of our combat mission in iraq. we've already removed more than 100,000 troops and iraqi forces have taken full responsibility for the security of their own country. thanks to the extraordinary sacrifices of our men and women in uniform, the iraqi people have the chance to forge their own future, and now the rest of our troops will be home for the holidays. >> reporter: and now one thing i should mention the president didn't say, not in his speech yesterday in the press briefing room here at the white house and not in his weekly address this morning, he didn't talk about the fact that it was an agreement, security agreements reached and negotiated and signed by the bush administration in 2008 that set this december 31st, 2011, end date for the end of our military presence there, and so in some ways he's taking credit for fulfilling a promise, but he didn't change what had already been agreed to by the previous administration, t.j. >> yeah, important to point out there. also the president, of course, gave us news, a lot of people welcome news to a lot of service members, a lot of their families, but it also came with a lot of criticism and probably from some expected places. >> reporter: well, exactly and so you have a lot of democrats saying it's a great decision, they're applauding the decision, saying that they've been waiting for this. on the republican side, though, you had a lot of people expressing concern like senator john mccain. i want to read to you from his pretty strong statement yesterday. he said yesterday, today marks a harmful and sad setback for the united states and the world. i respectfully disagree with the president. this decision will be viewed as a strategic victory for our enemies in the middle east essential the iranian regime which has worked relentlessly to assure a full withdrawal of the u.s. troops from iraq. it's a failure for the obama administration which has been more focused on withdrawing from iraq than succeeding in iraq since it came to office as well as the iraqi government. senator mccain there is expressing some of the concerns of not just republicans, actually. the bottom line is there is still violence going in iraq, even though it's greatly diminished from several years ago. there is a concern that iran's influence will grow as u.s. troops pull out. but on the democratic side, people want to remind everyone that this was a bush administration agreement that the president is carrying -- carrying through. but it does remain to be seen what happens after we pull out, whether or not iraq does become more unstable at least in the short term, t.j. >> athena jones, thank you, as always. a lot of the reaction coming in, i want you to listen to some of it now, some are saying it's long overdue and other people looking ahead to afghanistan now. >> i think it's wonderful. >> you are fixing to go back home and, you know, you get to reconnect. >> i think that there is a time and a place for war, and i wasn't opposed to it when we are first there. i am happy to hear that they're coming home to their families. >> it's good to get them home. we just need to get them back from afghanistan, now, it's basically transferring from one war to the next. the point is to get have beever back. >> quick and partisan from the gop hopefuls. mitt romney, president obama's withdrawal from iraq has put at harm the men and women. whether this decision is the result of a naked political calculation or sheer ineptitude with the iraqi government. rick perry saying i'm deeply concerned that president obama is putting political expediency ahead of sound military and security judgment by announcing an end to troop-level negotiations and a withdrawal from iraq by year's end. perry went on to say that america's commitment to the future of iraq is important to u.s. national security interests and should not be influenced by politics. and yet another voice weighing in on the withdrawal plan. this one iranian president mahmoud ahmadinejad spoke exclusively with our fareed zakaria just a few hours after president obama's announcement. >> translator: i think you should have done it sooner, maybe seven or eight years ago, and they could avoid killing so many iraqi people or americans as well. i think they should have done it much earlier. but the iraqi government did not accept the increased presence of the americans. the iraqi government is independent and sovereign. they should decide how to provide training for their military personnel. >> and you can see the rest of fareed zakaria's exclusive interview with the iranian president tomorrow morning at 10:00 a.m. eastern time after "state of the union" with candy crowley, she has an interwith the vice president joe biden at 9:00 and fareed zakaria following at 10:00 eastern time. we want to talk more about the death of moammar gadhafi, the video is graphic, but we want to explain the story, his body being held in cold storage and in particular a meat locker. people are actually lining up to see it. gadhafi's burial right now is on hold. the united nations and two major human rights groups want an investigation to find out exactly how he died. nato says it will scale back operations in libya by the end of the month. secretary of defense leon panetta said a u.s. drone was part of the attack on gadhafi's convoy. and his death and what it means for libya's future topped president obama's weekly address. listen -- >> in libya, our brave pilots and crews helped prevent a massacre, saved countless lives, and gave the libyan people a chance to prevail without putting a single u.s. service member on the ground. we achieved our objectives. soon our nato mission will come to a successful end. even as we continue to support the libyan people and people across the arab world who seek a democratic future. >> now, the president's supporters say the libyan conflict, the successful military operations that killed osama bin laden and anwar al awlaki bolstered the presiden'sz foreign policy. his foreign policy doesn't rate that high with potential voters. a new cnn/orc poll, the economic issues are number one, two, and three on critical issues and health care you put that in there and you can make it all the top four issues have to do something with the economy, foreign policy actually ranks tenth on the list. ten minutes past the hour now, let's say good morning to reynolds wolf talking a little tropical weather this morning. hello, sir. >> that's right, it's the season it seems as though will never end, we're talking about the hurricane season and it runs all the way through november 30th and it's starting to wake up again. we're starting to see it developing in parts of t s of t western caribbean and we're watching a system that possibly in the next 48 hours may become a main storm if it happens, it will bear the name rena, the question is where might it be going? we'll answer that coming up in a few moments and we'll check your weekend forecast, that's moments away, t.j. >> we'll see you in a moment. also in a moment we'll continue by telling you a story about a missing child. no, not that one that you may be thinking about, another missing child. been missing for 11 days now from glendale, arizona. but her grandmother says there's a reason you haven't heard her story. stay with us. a body at rest tends to stay at rest... while a body in motion tends to stay in motion. staying active can actually ease arthritis symptoms. but if you have arthritis, staying active can be difficult. prescription celebrex 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dog actually smells something, the scent of a body. police did a new search of the home after that. no one has been charged in that case. then in glendale, arizona, tonight there will be a vigil for 5-year-old jessie shockley, she wandered outside of her home while her older siblings were supposed to be watching her. police say finding jessie is the number one priority. they are still investigating and following up on hundreds of leads. >> we have not named any suspects in the case. we do have many persons of interest. >> now, volunteers have been helping search the streets for jessie, but her grandmother thinks the case isn't getting enough national attention for a very specific reason. listen to this -- >> i believe it's because she's a little black kid. >> we're trying to get national attention. we're trying to get this story like they're telling their story down in kansas? we want the same thing. >> well, joining me now is a group that helps families of missing minority children, good to have you back here, unfortunately, we're talking about another missing child here. but to the family's point and the grandmother's in particular, does she have one? >> i think she has a point. everybody knows baby lisa's face and picture and her name, she's definitely a household name. many people don't know jessie shockley's name and she's been missing about the same period of time and the stories are similar. >> shockingly similar. what did you think about how baby jessie went missing? >> i was highly disturbed and especially since she's been missing for so long is an area of concern for me as well. the fact that she was watching with her older siblings and no one knows where she went. she vanished out of thin air. >> does it help or hurt, everybody would want to find this child no matter what, but when a family member comes out and says something like that, does it help the case in that it gets the attention, here we are talking about it, or does it turn some people off, do you know what, of course, it has nothing to do with race? >> and there are people that would say that, that there is no issue with race when it comes to missing kids. we know that it's different and any parent of a child who is missing of color understands the difference. i feel it's wonderful that the parents and the families have reached out and it's starting to get some national coverage thanks to you and your team which is wonderful but that's not the usual case. >> a police officer told me sometimes a white middle-class family is a little more media savvy than a poor minority family, and here we are that she took it upon herself to almost call out to media. do you have to do that sometimes, be media savvy? >> you have to reach out to the media and court the media. in jessie's case one thing is she's gotten a lot of local coverage for herself but the national coverage has not been there. since she's been gone senifor s many days, we don't know where she is. everybody needs to know that she is missing. >> how do you playou explain? it's hard to say this, we don't value in some way little minority children the same as a little white baby? >> well, i mean, there are undercurrents of, you know, bias there, clearly bias does exist. i think we'd be fooling ourselves to act as though race does not play a factor in our nation. it does. and the fact that children that are not of color get more coverage that they're talked about more, there's a reason for that and, yes, race is a reason. >> are we not talking about this -- even me getting that question out was almost uncomfortable for me. are we uncomfortable to face that bias and what we may have and just hate to admit it? do we have to have that conversation, is that the only way it will change? >> we've got to talk about it. we need to talk about it more, but it needs to continue. to add to it, t.j., not only do we talk about it, we've got to do something about it. but we need to do something about it. i'm glad we're talking about it and it can be uncomfortable, and you are out there with this, you are crazy, there's no bias, and there's a lot of people that agree. as long as we are talking about it, whether you agree with me or disagree, we need to talk about it. >> peas in the pod, it's just peasinthepod.com, focused on minority children. thank you for coming in and we'll focus on the case of baby jessie, thank you for coming. up next, we'll head over to thailand dealing with the worst flooding that they've seen in half a secentury. what they are doing to get the water out. and a little later, don't try this at home, folks, you are a superhero you want to look like, it's one thing to put on the outfit and go out to the halloween party, but the surgery, to go to plastic surgery to alter your face to try to look like superman, yes, this is actually happening somewhere, folks. but, first, let me tell you about americans owing more on student loans than credit card debt. folks owe an average over 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well, we use a variety of computer models and you'll notice some of the things go in different directions. some take it right back over parts of the honduras and nicaragua and some bring it close, and a few models bring it close to cuba and yucatan and moving into the gulf of mexico as we venture into thursday, but if this moves into the gulf of mexico, by late next week, things could be very interesting to say the least. things could be interesting in the gulf coast. plenty of sunshine, nice day for you. if you happen to get in texas, though, there will be a chance of severe storms for portions of the central plains and northern plains and back to the rockies windy, breezy conditions and also possibly light rainfall and a touch of snowfall in the highest peaks in the pacific northwest mainly rain, out from parts of the west, san francisco, and l.a.x., the fog is developing and the marine layer should diminish by midday. and the eastern seaboard there could be delays and atlanta a beautiful day on tap with high temperatures going up in atlanta to, i'd say, about 68 degrees. 74 in memphis. 66 in chicago. 70 in denver. 76 in albuquerque. 81 in los angeles. and 56 in seattle. all right, you're up to speed. that's your wrap of the forecast. t.j., your turn. >> all right, reynolds, thank you. we'll be seeing reynolds plenty throughout the morning. let's turn to thailand where the worst flooding in ham half a century is just swamping them. the prime minister said more water could pour into the capital of bangkok as engineers open the floodgates to divert into the city's canals. it's possible, historic sites and palaces getting extra protection. the high water is driving people into shelters. more than 113,000 in shelters already. 400 people have died when the monsoon rains triggered all this flooding and thailand has started flood relief efforts, and supplies are heading to the northern part of thailand. a lot more images and information on our website and you can find out how you can help the flood victims, you can go to cnn.com/impact. we're at 23 minutes past the hour now, and it's tough trying to raise some money right now, even tougher if you're looking for a job, but you could actually score some quick cash if you know where to look. our digital lifestyle expert, mario, you're going to have to deliver on this one. he's going to tell us how we can score some quick cash. he's after the break, and the pressure is on. also a little later this morning, they say music feeds the soul, but that's not good enough for jon bon jovi, coming up, a look at his latest project. an airline has planes and people. and the planes can seem the same. so, it comes down to the people. because: bad weather, the price of oil those are every airline's reality. and solutions will not come from 500 tons of metal and a paintjob. they'll come from people. delta people. who made us the biggest airline in the world. and then decided that wasn't enough. new splenda® essentials™ no calorie sweetener with b vitamins, the first and only one to help support a healthy metabolism. three smart new ways to sweeten. same great taste. new splenda® essentials™. all right. getting close to the bottom of the hour now. a lot of people out there have been looking for a job. it's a long process and sometimes you need quick cash. our digital lifestyle expert mario armstrong is here with a few tips on where you can find that cash. all right, we've got websites, we've got apps. >> that's right. >> let's start first with the website and this will sound familiar, the first one, i believe. >> yes. absolutely. a lot of people will know the name craigslist.org, a lot of people know that from buying goods and selling goods and maybe looking for apartments and things of that nature, but when it comes to jobs, craigslist has become a hotbed for people posting positions whether it's part time or full time or a special project, but people say i'm available to be hired. so, use craigslist to put your skills out there, what you're good at and willing to do and see if people will be willing to hire you for the short-term projects. >> the next one helps people who are already working for themselves? do i have that right? >> yeah, absolutely. so, this one is called elance.com, this is for people who are either already working for themselves or have skills and have been laid off and need to find short-term income. elance is where companies post short-term projects. maybe i need a website design or maybe i need someone to do my data entry for me administrative tasks everything from legal and everything in between, they have over, like, 30 categories that you could be putting your skills up so that you could be getting paid for the work that you do. so, this is all about the freelance economy, and helping people pursue their passions and make money on the side. >> you said about 30 categories, but is that thing jam-packed with projects? >> 55,000 projects were posted in the last 30 days. >> all right, then. >> 55,000 projects. >> all right! elance, let me get that one down. >> you do it! >> i'm free this afternoon. all right, let's turn to the iphone app now. now, this is one -- >> that's right. >> -- help you make some money here with an app. let me hear this one. >> this one is called gig walk. you go to gigwalk.com or you download this app unfortunately right now only available on the iphone as you mentioned. but here's the idea. the idea is that companies can go on to gigwalk and post short-term gig. a short-term gig might be go check my competition's restaurant and take a photo of their menu. so, i want to get competitive intel jennings. anyone with an iphone could then go and take and accept the gig and get paid for it. they pay anywhere between $6 to $50 per gig that you do. so, there's everything on there. shopping experience. all types of competitive information. looking for, like i mentioned, what your competitors may be doing or even i saw one example where a company said why am i losing sales? do i have long lines on the weekend and they hired a couple of gig walkers to come into their store and take pictures as to what was actually going on with the shopping experience. >> now, that is interesting! that is really short-term cash if you -- >> exactly. >> -- need to go on a date that night, you could go -- >> that's right! no, you could -- that's right. >> but these aren't -- are all of them those type of smaller jobs where you're going out on a little assignment? >> that's right. just a little assignment. >> huh. >> you can get more and more assignments and you can build up your cash flow depending on the amount of assignments you take on, but that's exactly what this is all about. i think really people need to understand technology is enabling us to really put our skills out there, pursue our passions and find smarter ways to try to make those ends meet in between trying to look for a full-time gig. >> gig walk, is that one free? >> yes, it is a free app. >> all right, then. mario, that's good. we should have done a whole segment on gig walk. that's good stuff this morning. did you deliver. mario, of course, our -- >> score! >> -- digital expert lifestyle expert and he gives you the latest on technology every saturday morning. always good to see you, mario. >> you too, t.j. good to see you. we're at the bottom of the hour, where the church's belongings went are unknown. thieves clean out a church. why parishioners say the burglary happened at the worst possible time. also big changes are coming to the conrad murray involuntary manslaughter trial. we'll tell you about that and catch up on what happened this past week. mary? 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>> not all day. he's a dress designer during the day. he spends a lot of time in the superman outfit working in the community and helping children and channeling superman on some level. >> how old is he? >> he's in mid-30s. but they say he has body dysmorphic disorder which is an obsession with plastic surgery and looking different. but there he is, and right now he's certainly using it for good. certainly costing him a lot of money and from a health point of view we don't know what the risks are. >> how is he being received by the community? what do people think of him? >> they think he's very strange, but it's one of those things where the children love him. but i'm going to take you to seoul for a moment in south korea which really is the surgical capital of the entire -- of all of asia. >> okay. >> and here you have people who are doing all kinds of things. for example, they are having their eyes made rounder. and even little girls are doing this. because there's a belief particularly in south korea when you look at a resume, you have a photograph on your resume. >> okay. >> what you look like is very, very important. here's a rather young woman as you can see. >> my goodness. >> this child is 12 years old and she is having her eyes made rounder, because her mother believes that it's actually a financial investment in her future. >> wow, i guess this can't be cheap necessarily, right? >> oit's not necessarily cheap but these people believe if you look better, your chance of getting a job in the global economy is going to be better. >> you look better or not look like where they're from. >> it's trying to look western. >> my goodness, you are blowing my mind this morning. >> people are even having the muscle underneath their tongue tucked so they can speak better english. >> wow. the lengths people go to. there it is. oh, my goodness gracious, our morning "passport" you look in the mirror and go, wow, i look like this naturally. >> thank you, nadia. not what i was thinking this morning, i was thinking, wow, i need to shave. legendary rocker jon bon jovi opening a new restaurant and you get to pay whatever you want for the meal. it's for a good cause. you need to hear this. a good story we're happy to share with you. now, we're about a quarter to the top of the hour on this "cnn saturday morning." give you a look at some of the stories making news across the country. it's election day in louisiana. governor bobby jindal should feel pretty good about his chances for re-election. some of the polls out there suggest he has at least a 50-point lead over his closest rival almost guaranteeing jindal a second term in the governor's mansion. also, the congregation in an indiana church, freedom church, is going to move into their new home this weekend, but those plans changed when he stole an estimated $25,000 worth of chairs, tables, administrative equipment from the church's trailer which has served as its mobile home. for now parishioners are holding services at a local ymca. stole it from a church. also, to indiana, bloomington, indiana, this time, twins jennifer and jessica fatterson have done a lot of things growing up, but as adults now they can have one more shared experience. they gave birth on the same day. they didn't plan it that way, they say it, it just happened. and jon bon jovi and his wife have opened a pay as you can community kitchen in new jersey. no prices on the menu. you just have to leave a donation. >> there's a great need for them. both in urban and suburban environments. i've already had offers to increase our footprint. >> wow. if you can't afford to pay, you can volunteer in the kitchen or somewhere else in the community and get a gift certificate to the restaurant. we can predict the weather. sometimes we can even predict the election outcomes and our weather team and political team are pros at doing that stuff. but predicting crime? dan simon uncovers the future of policing in this "start small think big." >> reporter: in the movie "minority report" actor tom cruise tracks down would-be criminals in the year 2054. police in santa cruz, california, are turning the sci-fi future into reality. they're using an algorithm, a complicated math equation, to predict crime before it happens. >> people tend to burglarize the same area more than once, even the same times of day and days of the week. >> reporter: the program generates ten hot spot maps each day letting officers know when and where a crime is likely to occur. there's 60% of a likelihood of a residential burglary in this are a we're a we're going . >> reporter: this gives them another tool to fight crime. >> since 2000 we've lost 20% of our overall staff but culture services have gone up 30%. if you can find a technological program that can help do more with less, it makes sense to do it. >> 322, it's a tan honda. >> reporter: so far it seems to be working. >> july of last year versus july of this year a 27% reduction in burglaries. we've also made seven arrests. >> reporter: now other agencies like the los angeles police department have plans to implement the program. >> if the system works, and so far it looks promising, i really just see this as the future of law enforcement. >> reporter: dan simon, cnn. about 13 minutes to the top of the hour, and a story that many of you have told me this morning that i am wrong about. troy polamalu of the pittsburgh steelers fined $10,000 for a phone call he made on the sideline. i said he was justified in making the call. many of you tell me i'm wrong. if you're not up on the story, we'll have it for you after the break and tell you exactly who he called and why i think it was justified. my mother made the best toffee in the world. it's delicious. so now we've turned her toffee into a business. my goal was to take an idea and make it happen. i'm janet long and i formed my toffee company through legalzoom. i never really thought i would make money doing what i love. 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name tiara rice. >> it has the same birthday as my birthday and i thought i might have had a twin i didn't know. >> reporter: the people that she'd known as mom and dad brushed off years of question. the woman they thought was her mother died of a drug overdose. >> they were sad to tell me that my mom had died and my dad wasn't my dad and she wasn't my mother. >> reporter: they told her there was no point finding her biology mother that she'd long ago sold her for drugs. drug addict wanda rice was doing time in prison for murder, and every prison visit she told crystal and tisha to never stop searching for tiara. she even wrote her wishes in her will just before he died. >> i want tiara to know that she has two sisters that love her and that her mother loved her as well. >> reporter: now 22 with a 6-year-old son of her own, tiara hired a private eye, within days she learned who she was and that she had two sisters. >> they've been looking for me for a lifetime and i never knew i was lost in the first place. >> so, i thought she was so much better off and then when i found out she wasn't, it broke my heart. >> reporter: with no birth certificate, no identity until now, tiara has lived life on the edge, supporting herself and her son as an exotic dancer. >> you know, we don't have a family, there was no grandma on my side, on holidays -- >> reporter: now, what was lost is found. >> the sisters say that they all forgive their mother for what happened. now they are making a plans for a big family thanksgiving. we're at the top of the hour here now in the "cnn saturday morning," give you a look at some of the stories making headlines. and arrangements are being made for saudi crown prince sultan who died overnight in a new york hospital. the prince one of the most visible members of the saudi royal family had reportedly been battling cancer the past few years. he was thought to be in his 80s. the exact cause of death has not been revealed. moammar gadhafi's burial is on hold as the u.n. human rights office wants to investigate how he died on thursday since conflicting accounts cast doubt as to whether he was executed by rebel fighters. also a private ceremony set for today in birmingham, alabama, for reverend fred shuttlesworth, he died earlier this month, he helped lead the fight against segregation and co-founded the southern christian leadership conference. his body will lie in repose on sunday at the birmingham civil rights institute. his funeral and burial will take place on monday. well, we turn now to the war in iraq. it has an expiration date, new year's eve. president obama says the troops will be home for the holidays and the war will be over. the end of one of the most controversial wars in u.s. history comes after almost nine years. shock and awe, surge are things you heard thrown around over the past several years. this all started back in march of 2003. the department of defense estimates they spent more than $700 billion just on "operations iraqi freedom" and "new dawn" in iraq. 30,000 service members have been wounded. athena jones standing by at the white house. we heard from the president yesterday and he started out by saying, hey, promise kept. >> exactly. that's the point he made at the beginning. he says as a candidate i pledged to bring the war in iraq to a responsible end, so he made that point twice in his speech yesterday. his aides, his national security aides, made that point a few more times in the briefing afterwards. and so we all get the message. the president was against the iraq war from the beginning. he gave a speech in the run-up calling it a dumb war, a rash war, saying he wasn't against all wars but he was against wars that were dumb and rash. he has argued all along since his time as a candidate that the war in iraq caused the u.s. to take our eyes off the ball in afghanistan which was the war that we should have been focusing on, and so he pledged as a candidate to do what he announced yesterday. and so as far as they see it, it's a promise kept. let's look in to what he had to say in this morning's weekly address about -- about this announcement -- >> in iraq we've succeeded in our strategy to end the war. last year i announced the end of our combat mission in iraq. we've already removed more than 100,000 troops and iraqi forces have taken full responsibility for the security of their own country. thanks to the extraordinary sacrifices of our men and women in uniform, the iraqi people have the chance to forge their own future. now the rest of our troops will be home for the holidays. >> and so one point i should make, t.j., something the president did not bring up, not in the weekly address this morning, not in his remarks yesterday in the press briefing room here at the white house, he didn't point out that it was actually security agreements reached during the bush administration back in 2008 that set this december 31st, 2001, end date. and so that was sort of our -- that was already decided some time ago, and now, of course, there's been an issue about whether the military troops would stay behind, a few thousand, to help train iraqi security forces, but the u.s. and iraq couldn't reach an agreement on immunity for the u.s. troops and here you have it, almost all of the 40,000 troops are going to be out by the end of this year. >> we know a lot of families, we're going to hear some reaction or share with our viewers in a second from families and soldiers are certainly excited about the us in, but it comes as well with criticism from some familiar places. >> absolutely. so, you have democrats applauding the president's decision saying that this shows the effectiveness and the success of american troops. it's going to save taxpayers millions of dollars. but then you have republicans not unexpectedly expressing concern about what this means for iraq. let me read from you what representative howard mccann, who is the chairman of the house armed services committee, what statement he put out yesterday. he said, i remain concerned that this full withdrawal of u.s. troops will make that road tougher than it needs to be, the road forward in iraq. multiple experts have testified before my committee that the iraqis still lack important capacities in their ability to maintain their internal stability and territorial integrity. the shortcomings could reverse a decade of hard work and sacrifice both countries have endured to build a free iraq. so, that really summarizes a lot of the criticism coming from the gop side and also some general concern about iraq's ability to secure its own future. there's still violence in iraq, although a lot less than a few years ago, and there's concern about the influence of its neighbor, iran, and their influence growing as u.s. troops pull out. but there's one more point i want to make, t.j., and that's back at the beginning of his administration, in 2009, the president went to camp lejeune in north carolina and gave a speech about iraq, and he said we can't basically let perfect be the enemy of good here. u.s. troops in iraq have worked with iraqis to get them to this point. now they're in a situation where it's time for them to take responsibility for their own security, and so it will be interesting to see what happens and whether iraq ends up more stable, at least for some period of time, but it's time, the white house believes, for the u.s. troops to come home. >> all right, athena jones for us at the white house. thank you so much. and that reaction we were talking about coming from families and fellow soldiers, you can imagine what some of it sounds like. take a listen now. >> not only does my son come home safe and sound to us as a family, our family is whole again, and i'm very thankful for the job that him and all his fellow soldiers have done for us. >> time to bring our boys home. it's time for them to come home to their families. they shouldn't have to be over there. >> especially coming home around the holiday times, it's going to be great. >> now, some of the reaction to president obama's announcement was quick and predictably partisan from the gop presidential hopefuls. here from mitt romney. he said, quote, president obama's astonishing failure to secure an orderly transition in iraq has unnecessarily put at risk the victories that were won through the blood and sacrifice of thousands of american men and women. goes on to say the unavoidable question is whether this decision is the result of a naked political calculation or simply sheer ineptitude in negotiations with the iraqi government. something similar from governor rick perry, saying, quote, i'm deeply concerned that president obama is putting political expediency ahead of sound military and security judgment by announcing an end to troop-level negotiations and the withdrawal from iraq by year's end. perry went on to say that america's commitment to the future of iraq is 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we've got a charles howard chandler professor of law and a fellow of emory's law and religion program here with some perspective. thank you for being here. let's start with the images we've been seeing the past couple of days. what does it do to the cause moving forward for the world to watch now rebels put this man's dead body on display? >> i think that was ugly and unnecessary, unwise, but it should not detract from the tremendous achievement of the people of libya. there are a few vindictive elements, but i think the way that the people have conducted themselves in the last seven, eight months is a tremendous tribute to the drive of freedom and human dignity. >> you said it might not do long-term damage, but what is it saying to the world? what is the potential damage for the rest of the world seeing some of this behavior now? >> it is just simply a sense of worrying about whether there's going to be fair justice for all or whether there is going to be a retaliation against former enemies. but i think that you should not engage in the sort of degradement from the original mission. >> there are a number of things, of course, that now need to be done. some of those things are already under way. i guess just moammar gadhafi's death made it official and final in a lot of people's minds, but of all the things they need to do, what would you say they have to start with in getting that country up and going? >> i think they need to build political institutions. i mean, democracy is not simply mass rule. it has to be organized, accountable, transparent. libya in a way is blessed by not having had -- because they don't have corrupt institutions that they have to correct. but still they have to build from scratch. they have to build political parties. it's a country that has been ruled by a monarchy, followed by a cruel dictatorship. so, two generations of libyans or more never had any experience with self-government. >> what gives you pause? i guess, what is unique to their situation that might have been different from what we saw in egypt? what's unique to libya that gives you pause to say this is working against them but also what do you see and say, well, these are the advantages that might help them get it right? >> i think they had nothing to start with, and that they conducted a very effective war against a brutal dictatorship that has been tremendously armed and trained. they went against the odds and succeeded in overthrowing the regime. but that's only the first step. so, not having anything to work with in terms of political institutions gives them human capital. the people of libya although the country is tremendously rich, but that wealth has not reached in delivering services, education, to the vast majority of the people. so, where do you start? they are all telling that the main thing is their own determination, their commitment to be a democratic government in transition, and the world around them. >> last thing, quickly. who is next? a lot of people talking about al saud al assad in syria, who is next to go? >> i think we should also remember what else needs to be done to maintain the very strong transition. it may be different because it's a brutal political party that is in further control of your country and that situation, so it may be harder, but overthrowing regimes is one thing. building countries is another. >> good point to make, sir, thank you so much for coming. >> thank you. >> thank you so much. we're 18 minutes past the hour now, and a mass firing to tell you about at a hertz location in seattle? it has to do with praying and a time clock. we'll explain. fore! no matter what small business you are in, managing expenses seems to... get in the way. not anymore. ink, the small business card from chase introduces jot an on-the-go expense app made exclusively for ink customers. custom categorize your expenses anywhere. save time and get back to what you love. the latest innovation. only for ink customers. learn more at chase.com/ink new splenda® essentials™ no calorie sweetener with b vitamins, the first and only one to help support a healthy metabolism. three smart new ways to sweeten. same great taste. new splenda® essentials™. 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for praying. the company location in seattle says the employee who are muslim never clocked out when they took breaks to pray. here's our affiliate where the employees complain it's an assault on their religious freedom. >> reporter: elise omar is out of a job terminated after she refused to clock in and out to pray at work. she is a muslim who prays five times a day. in the past muslim employees at hertz paused for their prayers without clocking out. >> it's five minutes. it's not a big deal as the company is making. >> reporter: but hertz tells me that some employees were abusing it. it was created issues of fairness among employees. teamster 117 who represents hertz drivers said a blanket policy is not the way to address that. >> if there's a problem with the performance or conduct of any employee, you have the right to deal with that employee individually. that's not what they did here. >> reporter: the union provided me with this notice posted for employees at hertz earlier this year. it stated, employees who want to take their ten-minute break in smaller chunks don't have to punch but notify their supervisor. then, september 30th, the union claims hertz posted this new policy which states all rest and meal periods must be punched including all religious observation. >> the company unilaterally implemented this policy to clock in and out and specifically identified prayer breaks their policy. they have not applied the policy to people who take smoke breaks. >> reporter: hertz tell me clocking out is required for all breaks and it is now enforcing that policy to prevent abuse. all right, we're 24 minutes past the hour. up next, our reynolds wolf, he has your game-day forecast. a lot of you keeping an eye on that college football saturday. he'll let you know if your game is going to have any issues with weather. s simple physics... a body at rest tends to stay at rest... while a body in motion tends to stay in motion. staying active can actually ease arthritis symptoms. but if you have arthritis, staying active can be difficult. prescription celebrex can help relieve arthritis pain so your body can stay in motion. because just one 200mg celebrex a day can provide 24 hour relief for many with arthritis pain and inflammation. plus, in clinical studies, celebrex is proven to improve daily physical function so moving is easier. and celebrex is not a narcotic. when it comes to relieving your arthritis pain, you and your doctor need to balance the benefits with the risks. all prescription nsaids, like celebrex, ibuprofen, naproxen, and meloxicam have the same cardiovascular warning. they all may increase the chance of heart attack or stroke, which can lead to death. this chance increases if you have heart disease or risk factors such as high blood pressure or when nsaids are taken for long periods. nsaids, including celebrex, increase the chance of serious skin or allergic reactions or stomach and intestine problems, such as bleeding and ulcers, which can occur without warning and may cause death. patients also taking aspirin and the elderly are at increased risk for stomach bleeding and ulcers. do not take celebrex if you've had an asthma attack, hives, or other allergies to aspirin, nsaids or sulfonamides. get help right away if you have swelling of the face or throat, or trouble breathing. tell your doctor your medical history and find an arthritis treatment for you. visit celebrex.com and ask your doctor about celebrex. for a body in motion. visit celebrex.com and ask your doctor about celebrex. ♪ ♪ ♪ when your chain of supply ♪ goes from here to shanghai, that's logistics. ♪ ♪ chips from here, boards from there ♪ ♪ track it all through the air, that's logistics. ♪ ♪ clearing customs like that ♪ hurry up no time flat that's logistics. ♪ ♪ all new technology ups brings to me, ♪ ♪ that's logistics. ♪ i tell you what i can spend. i do my best to make it work. i'm back on the road safely. and i saved you money on brakes. that's personal pricing. getting close to the bottom of the hour. you want to let this thing go? let's let it go. we got to work together for the next few hours and we'll let it go. >> we'll do the forecast, we'll do the college game-day forecast it's not just the weather, i want your pick for each one of the games. >> that's not a problem. >> arkansas/ole miss, they are playing in oxford it will be beautiful. kickoff at 12:21. what do you think? >> easy game. fellas, don't make me look bad. >> let's look at lsu against number 20 auburn. you tell me. >> they suspended a few guys down there in auburn you are all known to kind of have referees that are on your side. >> hey, what are you talking about? >> auburn has a good shot. >> that's horrible! the thing about auburn is that this weekend they are actually starting a new quarterback, clinton moseley will be coming in and it's first start playing at lsu. >> very wet out. >> should be great. should be great. this game looks good weatherwise, alabama/tennessee, a traditional rivalry, what do you think? >> did you hear nick saban's press conference? 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