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CNNW John King USA August 15, 2011



>> i'm running for office because i believe that having spent my life in the private sector, meaning in business, that i understand what it takes to get business going again. >> and perry's rebuttal? well, part texas macho. >> give him my love. >> and part acclaim to have the job creation bragging rights. >> 40% of all the jobs created in america from june of 2009 until the present were created in texas. i know how to create jobs. >> a compact hour ahead including putting governor perry to the truth test and showing you how the 2012 map is so very different from 2008. here is jessica yellin. in austin, ken herman of the austin american statesman. governor perry is in the race. president obama is in the midwest. they're in the same state of iowa. perry was here this morning, obama's there now. suddenly today we have a campaign of contrasts. >> yeah, it's amazing it seems to have come upon us so quickly. many of us in texas expect head would run -- governor perry, i'm speaking of. but it took him a while to stay it officially. we saw it saturday in south carolina. now it has that full-time campaign feel to it. >> jess, when you see the president, he is in minnesota, then the bus rolls into iowa, then it's going to go into rural illinois. these are places that he carried easily last time. i'm going to walk over here and show people so they can look. if you look at the 2008 map, these were not the problems. illinois. the president's home state. one of the problems there unemployment rate then and now. that's just above the national average. then you move over to iowa where the president is this evening. then and now. below the national average, but still up. he was in minnesota earlier in the day. a little easier if you shrink it down. then and now. so it is economy that is turning blue states from the last time suddenly competitive this time. >> and those are right near some other states, ohio, michigan, indiana, crucial states that he won last time that he really is in danger of losing this time. he absolutely must win, for example, ohio. must win if he's going to be president again. and they know that. so they're selling this message, which is, as you say, about contrast. he can't really say much for his record in creating jobs. it's really about trying to hammer an opponent. there is no opponent yet. so he's playing the groundwork in advance pf. >> again, you have perry and romney and congresswoman bachmann will be out there. president obama out there making the contrast. one of the things they're going to argue about from now till next november and by then we'll know who the republican nominee is, is whether in the next election cycle the american people should vote in favor of a candidate who wants to raise taxes on the wealthy. the president quoting from an op-ed in "the new york times" by warren buffett. buffet writing, hey, it's about time, overdue, raise my taxes. listen to the president. >> warren buffett had an op-ed that he wrote today. where he said, we've got to stop coddling billionaires like me. you don't get those tax breaks. you're paying more than that. and now, i may be wrong, but i think you're a little less wealthy than warren buffett. that's just a guess. >> and governor perry and governor romney both on the campaign trail said no way. not happening. you can raise taxes on the rich. you are not going to solve the big deficit problems. that's not the solution. so we know at least one of the big contrasts we'll have as we wait to see who wins the republican wrestling match. >> yeah, there's no doubt governor perry and i guess all the major republicans say the problem is squarely on the spending side, not the revenue side. the same mantra governor perry rode to re-election here in 2010, the same mantra the republicans who dominate our legislature here came to town on and we face a state projected up to $27 billion deficit for our next two-year budget cycle here when the legislature came to town. they came to town and said we're not raising taxes, we'll make the cuts, balance the budget. a lot of folks didn't believe them. whatever you think of this bunch, they are politicians who did in office exactly what they said they'd doon to campaign trail. it will take a couple years to figure out the impact of that. it's possible some people who thought he like that idea might find that some of these cuts do impact them. we don't know that yet. >> what do we know about team obama when they look at the republican field? aubl governor pawlenty, someone they viewed as a credible challenger. he's now gone. you have governor romney. they assumed he's the front-runner. now they have governor perry who instant in in the race has added a jolt of energy in the past 72 hours. are they worried team obama more about one than the other? >> first, they love to run against michele bachmann, we all know that. are they worried about perry? yes. but they've focused on romney, they don't know what the reality is of the perry candidacy. there's a sense that there's a lot unknown there so that there's a little bit more to research and learn, that there's opportunity there that they can find and that they are such a formidable operation, they have such enormous confidence in their own ability, i don't detect a lot of nerves when it comes to running a campaign against an opponent. the challenge is to defend the jobs record. and as long as they can be offensive, they feel confident. if they have to be on the defensive, that's when they get nervous. >> ken her mab, help us out. a lot of our our viewers may say these familiar, i can't quite place him. you're asking questions in the briefing room. as a guy who covered bush in washington. is what you're seeing and hearing in south carolina, new hampshire, iowa, is that the same rick perry who has been the governor in austin, texas? >> yes, i think so far it is. like a lot of texans, his accent seems to get thicker the farther he gets from the state. he is a great campaigner. i think most people will find him, as i found with george w. bush, anyone who spends any time with him in a small group probably can't help but think he's a nice guy. you may not like his politics. they are both texans, but they are different kind of texans. governor perry pointed out he went to texas a&m, if you don't know that, it is just short of cult status. president bush went to yale. those are both texan, but there are some people that may find out that perry is what a lot of them stereo bush as. he's a west texan. he wears his cowboy boots proudly. he is, some people think t real deal when it comes to being a texan. >> are you trying to say new haven's no in texas? it's funny because he was asked about this. governor perry knows, obviously, eventually he'll get to run on his record. but when you're the new ka candidate in the race and the last republican for president was a republican from texas. >> i'm not going to sit here. george bush is not my opponent. >> he's a infoformer president. we give him all the respect for that. >> it's interesting when these guys first get in. it's often a different set of questions than they're asked in week two or three and if they make it month two and month three. >> he'll have to defend this jobs record. this is the case that he has to run on. texas has this great jobs record. but what's the reality in texas, low wages, et cetera. may i make one other point? two things that happened today with president obama on the campaign trail? you noticed he got a lot of questions about health care reform at these town halls, which is surprising for people. he did say he'll come out with a specific jobs plan in september. which is different from what we're hearing from the white house. >> and the health questions, unhappy liberals. back on the point that we just made -- we had a technical issue, i couldn't do this earlier. but when he talks about his job creation record. texas has a lot of jobs and lead with the number of minimum wage jobs in the country. is that a brag that will stand up to the sunshine test? >> we'll find out. i think candidates don't like when the word "miracle" is applied to anything they've done because i know in my lifetime there's only been one miracle certified by the vatican, when the mets won. and scrutiny will be tough. there's a lot to scrutinize here. the texas economy is better off than a lot of states. when he came into office, i believe oil was $25. it hit 150 in '08. i have to buy on the way home, so i'll check. there are things that have happened. when economy goes bad, the governor or the president gets the blame whether it's really his blame -- his fault or not. so i guess they get to try to take the credit when things look better compared to other states. >> the massachusetts miracle was my first presidential campaign. the great did you dukakis case. the horrible deadly stage collapse at the state fair. next the highest ranking african-american congress on whether the president -- and you see him live in iowa speaking -- whether the president has the right road map. hey can i play with the toys ? 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>> i don't think we have to worry about where he starts. the problem is where will the impact be of job creation? will we get a jobs bill out of the congress? i understand that the president's going to be coming forward in september with a comprehensive job bill. i hope that's the case. i'm also hopeful that, as we talk about deficit reduction, and those kinds of things, that we can include job creation in those discussions as well. because the quickest way to reduce the deficit, i believe, is to get people back to work. they'll be paying taxes. they won't be drawing unemployment. and they will, in fact, be contributing to deficit reduction. so i would love to see a comprehensive jobs program in the very near future because i think that's what will get people's confidence restored and get our communities back on the right track. >> as you know, though, and you tend to be more diplomatic, especially on television, than some of your colleagues and i respect that, as you know there's been some grumbling. in the black caucus and the community at large about the president's focus, whether it be deficit reduction or focussing on jobs, the chairman of the cbc said this. to "the washington post" last week. what the president is doing is not the same as what we're doing. we have real jobs to give real people who are unemployed. this is not one of those deals where we go around and talk about jobs and hope somebody gives us some press attention. that's a pretty harsh criticism of the president of the united states, the first african-american president to the united states from a leading african-american in the congress, is it not? >> well, i didn't get that he was directly talking about the president there. i'm not too sure that there aren't other tours taking place that might have been the point of reference. i was with emmanuel cleaver over the weekend, and we had long talks about what's going on with the congressional black caucus tomorrow in detroit, later on in miami, atlanta and then out in los angeles. just because we're ending the tour in los angeles doesn't mean the emphasis is not on los angeles as well. we started in cleveland, ohio. 7,000 people showed up. 20 -- 2200 people got connected with jobs. that's what cleaver was talking about, trying to bring employers and potential employees in to the same room and see if we can get the confidence restored again. because too many people stop looking. they just dropped out of the process altogether. we want to get them back in. the way you do that, i think, is the way the cbc is conducting this tour. i think that's what he had reference to. >> i want you to listen to some of the president on the trail today. he's being a bit more populist. he's the president of the united states. he holds the most powerful job in washington. yet he's making the case -- and you would understand his frustration -- he can't get a lot of things done because he couldn't get them through the congress. i would ask you if you would choose the same words. >> people are doing the right thing. well, if you can do the right thing, then folks in washington have to do the right thing. and if we do that, there is not a problem that we face that we cannot solve. >> do you prefer -- you're the assistant democratic leader, you're in the minority now. the republicans control the house. would you prefer the president not blame the people in washington or the congress and specifically say the republicans? >> yes, i would prefer that. and i've had those discussions with the president. >> and why won't he get tougher with them? >> well, i hope he will. i don't know. i think the president by nature wants to be diplomatic. i'm the same way. i call myself a southern gentleman but there are times when i put that aside and go right to the core of the problem. the problem is that the republican leadership refuses to allow a jobs bill to come to the floor. i have one that's got bipartisan support. it has a companion bill over in the senate that has bipartisan support. the co-sponsorship is bipartisan. but we cannot get them to bring this to the floor. and i think the president sooner or later is going to have to lay this right at the doorsteps of the republican leadership. we did not vote for all of these things that's got us in this problem today. democrats have supported his agenda and we still look forward to supporting him in the future. he needs to call the republicans out. that's who is stopping this legislation, not the democrats. >> congressman jim clyburn, the assistant democratic leader, appreciate your thoughts tonight. jobs will be the big issue when the congress returns. sir, appreciate your time tonight. still ahead here, this weekend's draptic changes in the republican presidential race. plus the weather service issued high wind warnings two hours before this tragedy at the indiana state fair. was it a mistake not to warn the crowd sooner? 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