joining us so jessica yellin. jessica, a quite extraordinary james bond-style plot here. tell me more about this. >> reporter: well, the plot was under way for many months, and it got so far that money was actually transferred for an assassination. what the iranians didn't know, piers, was the person they hired to carry this out was a dea informant working for the u.s. government. so it was never actually going to take place. >> but that was a massive stroke of luck, presumably. >> reporter: absolutely. once this dea informant was contacted by the iranians, the fbi was brought in. what we know tracing the timeline was the president was notified in june. the arrest of the naturalized u.s. citizen, the iranian we all have a mug shot of now was on september 29th. so it unfolded over the course of about four months where u.s. law enforcement was tracking it for all that time. >> secretary of state clinton said today the idea that they would attempt to go to a mexican drug cartel to solicit murder for hire to kill the saudi ambassador, nobody can make it up. it is an extraordinarily outrageously aw dash out plot, isn't it? >> reporter: it is remarkable. does seem like something out of a spy novel. we're told it's bad guys contacting bad guys. there's not some sort of known connection between the iranian quds force and mexican drug cartels. it was just a way for the iranians to potentially disguise their involvement in this kind of attack were it to be carried out. >> jessica, thank you very much. joining us now is mib michigan congressman mike rogers, the chairman of the house intelligence committee. congressman, a big success here for the intelligence services, but what an extraordinary story. >> yeah, it is. and you know, i wouldn't discount the fact that they went to the drug cartel. if you look at the sophistication of this plot, but for the fact that this particular informant -- and piers, this is somebody who had a long relationship with the u.s. government, but he was well entrenched in the za, id crime family, a drug cartel down in mexico, who had the means and the materials to pull something like this off. they used somebody who wasn't affiliated directly with the iranian irgc, their military intelligence services, to contact this individual and arrange for the wiring of the money to make it go operational. i have to tell you, when you first heard of this plot back in june, you thought, boy, this doesn't even make sense. why would they go through this process. but as it unfolded, it became very clear how deadly serious they were about pulling this off. >> i mean, given the sums of money involved, given the elaborate nature of the plot, is it conceivable that moammar ahmadinejad or the supreme lead leader khameni, didn't know about this. >> it would be difficult for them to deny. this is a group the irgc that's worked with the quds force, bringing weapons systems into iraq to kill u.s. soldiers, up the mischief in afghanistan to do same kinds of things, they're supporting hezbollah in their terrorist activities. they've got bad things going on in bahrain. we can track their activities, we know how dangerous and, piers, they're very, very good. don't look at this as the keystone cops. this was just good fortune that they picked the wrong guy to arrange this, but if you look at his profile, he was really good. so we know all of those things about what bad things that they're doing around the world. and they were completely serious about pulling this off. now, in all of those other operations i just talked about, piers, all of those have to go up the chain of command. they're not going to give away a million dollar and plan an operation in america by just two guys in the basement of the irgc thinking wouldn't this be a good idea. i think they've got a lot of explaining to do about what their involvement was in this. and i think the international community really needs to step up its pressure on their state sponsored terrorism activities. >> well, this is big question now. hillary clinton said today what everybody is learning is that nobody is safe from the iranians. the attorney general eric holder said, and i quote, the united states is committed to holding iran responsible for its actions. what does that actually mean in practice? >> what we hope happens now is that this is an opportunity for the administration to engage our european allies in tougher sanctions. they've been pretty good. they can be better. and it's really a message to china and russia who have been pretty difficult in tough sanctions on iran. they need to decide now are they going to stand with a nation state who is actively engaged in terrorism including the assassination of diplomats here in the united states, washington, d.c., specifically, or are they going to stand with the international community who stands for the rule of law and justice? and this is their chance. this is an opportunity for the rest of the world to stop putting pressure on these two actors who have very self-serving reasons not to have sanctions on iran, to do the right thing. this is their chance to do the rest of the world and say we've got to stop this kind of behavior. that's the short-term goal of the administration. then secondly, those activities in iraq and afghanistan that are directly leading to the deaths of u.s. soldiers, i think we need to be more aggressive about dealing with that. >> i mean, what was extraordinary was the brazen nature of this. the instructions were that it should happen maybe in a washington restaurant packed full of potentially american citizens as well and if, you know, dozen, hundreds of people got killed, it didn't matter. it's an extraordinary situation to emerge today. >> what we see is iran has become more brazen. their activities in iraq that really went unchecked publicly at least, their activities in afghanistan, they're really defying the world saying we're going to get a nuclear weapon program. we really don't care what you all think. their activities about hezbollah, very brazen. the more brazen they got, i think they really thought we can pull this off and if we kill a lot of people in the process, we don't care. that's really the mind-set of where iran is today and why this is so dangerous and so serious and why we need to come together internationally to put an end to this. >> finally, i would imagine the saudis are furious about this. what would you imagine their reaction may be? >> well, the good news is when the early stages of this, they were briefed as to the security that they might need to undergo to make sure that if something went wrong in the operation and they were able to get there, that they would be safe and able to keep the ambassador safe as well as other security precautions. but you can imagine that the tension between iran and saudi arabia, which is already there, is only going to get worse. and they've got a lot of work to do here. and saudi arabia has been pretty clear that a nuclear iran is the worst possible outcome for the middle east's stability. they're going to have a lot of bilateral discussions they have to go through here. their activities in iran have been a strain on saudi and iranian relationships, some of the activities in syria have been a strain on saudi/iranian relationship. now what they've done is brought the whole world including the united states and the american public into this very nasty fight about iranian search of greater influence in the region that is dangerous and it shows you the kind of decisionmaking that they're going to do here is exactly why we need to be aggressive on their nuclear weapon program and their state sponsor of terrorism. >>ly does. >> thanks for having me. >> up next my remarkable interview with america's heavy metal family next door, the osbournes. 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>> you know, i had the occasion to go back to the house i grew up in in ashton birmingham a few months ago. it's when you go back that the reality of what you've done hits you right between the eyes, i mean. >> it's a tiny house. >> tiny, tiny. you could get this whole thing into this area. there were six of us, and my mom and dad. i don't know how we did it. >> for you, jack, the complete converse. because you were born into pretty fabulous wealth and luxury and everything else, yet the overriding sense i got from the movie that you made, which was a painstaking labor of not entirely love i have to say over two or three years, was that the money just never brought any proper happiness. there's a moment of real awareness with ozzy, i think, when you say to him, you say, all the stuff i've bought you, jack, over the years. you never wanted for anything. anything you ever wanted. and you just turn around and say, yeah, except a proper father. >> yeah, but i think that's kind of what makes -- i mean, our family relatable. it doesn't matter what walk of life you come from, addiction still affects a family the same way. whether you are living in a, you know, beautiful mansion in hidden hills or you're living in a ghetto in south central. it's still going to be the same issues within a family. i can only speak for myself. i went from being a relatively normal 15-year-old in high school to being all over mtv and literally i could do whatever i wanted. and i was being praised for it no matter what. and so you can't not let that affect you negatively because it's like, how far can i push it today? what can i do today that i couldn't do yesterday? >> if you had your time again, would you choose to be in that mtv show? >> absolutely, yeah. because i mean, i wouldn't be here talking to you. and what a gem that is. >> maybe the down side. sharon, would you? would you take all your kids into that environment again knowing what happened to them after? because it was incredibly exciting, but it was much bigger than i think any of you realized and the harsh reality in the media for most of your kids, it was pretty tore torous years after. >> i've gone over and over the same question in my mind, did i do the right thing. and i honestly have to say that i would do it again. i definitely would. we had unbelievable experiences as a family that we shared. it was an amazing time in our life. yes, bad things happen. but bad things happen anyway. >> what's interesting, i think, with you, and i've got to know you well. i feel very privileged to have done that. but i didn't know you through the really bad days. and what came through in the movie was there were a lot of bad days. there weren't many good days as far as some of the family were concerned. >> it wasn't my idea when i was living -- this is documented as well. i'd go out and have a few drinks and wake up and charged with attempted murder of sharon. i have no idea how that happened, but it did. that didn't even stop me from drinking and getting crazy. i mean, i had just come back from england and the drug scene in england is rampant. >> it is. >> it's rampant. not just england. all over. it's everywhere. it's the hard core stuff, you know? >> what do you think of that, coming from britain and going back there and seeing it's so much more prevalent now given what it did to you and your life and the impact on your family. >> well, i'm lucky. i don't smoke, i don't drink, i don't do drugs any more. before amy winehouse and it was like you get to know somebody who knew somebody who knew somebody to get it. but now the availability is easy now. >> interesting about amy winehouse. i know you knew her and kelly was a friend of amy's. i got to know mitch, her father. a very emotional interview. i went into it thinking i'm going to hold him accountable. he is the father. when i heard him talk about the battles he'd had to try and control amy and the drugs and everything else and the alcohol in particular, which actually became worse than the drugs for her, i had a lot more sympathy for him and i felt real impathy towards him. do you feel lucky that none of your kids ended up like amy winehouse? >> lucky is not the word. it's blessed. i feel blessed. and amy's dad was very well educated in the disease. he was very well read. he knew all about it. we were just blessed with our children that at the end of the day, it didn't get the better of them. >> what about me? >> what about you! >> i think she's referring to you as one of the children, ozzy. i interviewed kelly a while ago. i was pretty startled by how close she felt she'd come to possibly losing her life to drugs. >> you look at people like kelly and you look at amy winehouse. they're tiny little girls. tiny little girls. they've got nothing -- you know, you drink, drink, drink and you know, then they don't eat, then they throw up. then all of this stuff. how do their bodies take it? how do they think their bodies can continue doing this? and doing this? >> but at the same time, it has nothing to do with the size, the age, the width, it's to do with the look. how many people big guys honestly and they choke on their vomit. and it happens every night. >> sharon says she feels blessed that none of her children ended up losing their lives through drugs. do you feel lucky? what do you feel? >> yeah. it was definitely one of the key factors in helping me stay sober was kind of realizing that, for all accounts, i probably should have died. i did a lot of stupid things and i was fortunate enough to always wake up the next day. that's something that, when i got sober, i was like, well, there's probably a reason. so i have to figure that out. >> when we come back, sharon talks about the darkest moment of her marriage, when ozzy tried to kill her. >> it was pretty damn scary because you're on your own. what the hell do you do? 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