>> shocking allegations. i'll talk to her tonight along with her attorney gloria allred in their first live primetime interview. this is "piers morgan tonight." good evening. we'll have much more tonight on the conviction of michael jackson's doctor including my primetime exclusive interview with a member of conrad murray's defense team. but first, political bombshell. the only herman cain accuser to go public. sharon bialek worked for the restaurant association for several months in 1997. she said that cain made an unwanted sexual advance after their dinner together. the details are shocking. >> he also grabbed my head and brought it towards his crotch. i was very, very surprised and very shocked. i said, what are you doing? you know i have a boyfriend. this isn't what i came here for. mr. cain said, you want a job, right? >> joining me now in their first live interview, sharon bialek and her attorney gloria allred. let me start with you, sharon bialek. a very dramatic day today. you were the first of the accusers to go public. what made you do that? >> well, like i said today, piers, is that i wanted to be able to put a face and a voice to those women out there that didn't want to or could not, for whatever their reasons are -- i wanted to speak about this because it was -- i wanted to tell the truth. >> tell me this. when did you first meet herman cain? >> i first met herman in 1994 -- 1997 when i was employed at the educational foundation of the national restaurant association. every year they have a show, the nra show, and it's usually a five-day show. so i had a lot of opportunity to engage in conversations during various events with him. >> so you got to know him quite well. and then you were laid off, is that right? >> yes, i was terminated. >> and you then made contact with herman cain? >> yes. at the urging of my then-boyfriend, he was also with me at these events and thought that herman thought i was a person that, you know, he respected me and thought that i should seek out herman to perhaps go to him and find out if i could be employed at another area of the foundation or with the national restaurant association state. >> and whose idea was it to have dinner? >> that was herman's. >> and you went to a restaurant. did you drink alcohol? >> i had a glass of wine, yes. >> and did mr. cain drink? >> yes. >> more than one glass, a bottle, how much did you have together? >> you know, i really can't remember. but i'm sure, you know, he probably had two glasses. >> right. and then he was driving the car. >> yes. because i took a train in to town. so i did not have a vehicle. >> how had dinner gone? did you get on well with mr. cain? was he a gentleman during dinner? >> absolutely, yes. i was telling him my plight, and he seemed concerned, and i trusted him. that's why i went to him. and i thought nothing differently throughout the dinner. >> and what did he say to you during dinner? did he say then that he would be able to help you perhaps get your job back? >> he -- not so much during dinner, but he said that he would look into it. that was his quote. >> right. and whose idea was it to then get in the car together? >> well, it was his because i had to get a ride back to the hotel because i didn't have the car. >> right. so you get in the car, and then this advance is made. were you shocked by what happened? >> very, very much so because, first of all, he had met my boyfriend. he knew i was in a relationship. and to me, that's very sacred, when you're in a relationship, to, you know, be true to that person, and secondly, that this is a man that i went to for help. and he -- and the reason i went to him for help is because he's a powerful man within the organization. i respected him. i looked up to him. and it just -- it just was shocking to me that he would use that power in such a way. >> obviously, the cynics -- and there will be many out there -- will say why have you waited 14 year to come out with these claims? are you making any money from this? do you intend to make any money? you're not being paid for this interview. but do you intend to make any money from your revelations? >> piers, that was never my intention from the start. and it is not my intention to do it. i'm all about doing the right thing, about justice being served. and i wanted to do this because those that know me know i don't back down from controversy and things. and i felt i needed to do this for the other women that couldn't or wouldn't. and regardless of what happens -- and i know, you're right, there's going to be a lot of backlash, and i'm going to have to suffer through that. and i'm sure i'm not going to be portrayed at different things. so i'm willing to handle it. i'm a tough girl. >> you have a teenaged child. >> mm-hmm. >> are you concerned about the impact of all this on your child? >> absolutely. he's the love of my life. and the most important thing in the world to me. and -- but you know, on the other hand, i want him to know that his mommy did something good for women, that she stood up for what she believed in. and i think that's a more important lesson to learn that i did something on behalf of women. >> herman cain, through his campaign team today, has said the allegations are completely false. quotes mr. cain has never harassed anybody. they're basically calling you a liar. >> mm-hmm. well, i know what happened and he knows what happened. and it's unfortunate that my whole -- one of my whole objectives was to give him the opportunity to come forward, to redeem himself, say, hey, i'm sorry. i did this. it happened. and let's move forward. and it is unfortunate and i'm very disappointed that he didn't take the lead in this. >> have you at any stage in the last 14 years made any approach to herman cain to get some kind of apology from him? >> no. absolutely not. >> i mean, after this incident happened in the car, you then asked him to drop you back at the hotel. was he apologetic in the moment? was he aware that he had gone too far, if what you say is true? >> well, when you tell someone, you know, this is not why i'm here, please drive me back and i was very stern and, yes, he knew -- i wouldn't say he was apologetic, but he knew i wasn't happy about what went on. i wasn't in tears or anything. but he knew i was upset by it. >> how many other people have known about what happened? >> i only told two people. >> and who are they? >> we're not going to name them, piers, but we are identifying them as we did today as a physician that she was dating who has provided a declaration under penalty of perjury to us which we have signed. and also a very prominent businessman who has been a longtime friend and mentor of sharon's, and he's also provided declaration under penalty of perjury to us that she told them shortly thereafter, after the incident, that mr. cain had made sexually inappropriate advances to her and conduct, misconduct with her, but she did not provide the detail to them. she was very, very embarrassed and shaken by this situation. >> gloria, you'll be aware that herman cain's campaign has referred to you as an activist celebrity lawyer today. the clear indication being that you're jumping on this for personal fame and all the rest of it. how do you counter that charge? >> well, they didn't describe me the way most people would describe me, which is a women's rights attorney, which i have been for 36 years and we've done more sexual harassment case in our law firm, our private law firm, than any other in the country and won nearly hundreds of millions of dollars for victim of sexual harassment. however, if they want to attack me, that's fine. point is when the public decides -- i think the question is really this, piers. are they going to believe the word of four women, two of whom made claims of sexual harassment which resulted in settlement, one who's anonymous and another one who has come forward, that's sharon, alleging sexual harassment? are they going to believe those four women who don't know each other, at least as far as we know, sharon doesn't know the other three. or are they going to believe the word of one man, herman cain, who has every motive to deny it? and that is really going to be a question for the voters. >> sharon, let me ask you, do you believe that herman cain should now stand down as a candidate for the republican party nomination? >> i believe up until this point, i believe that he first needs to apologize and he needs to admit it. then it's up to him to decide what to do next. >> i think it's important, piers, to know, too, that sharon is a republican, she's a registered republican, she's proud to be a republican, but nonetheless, she feel that, given what has occurred, that she needed to speak out. and if all of the allegations by all of the women who have made them of sexual harassment are true, then what we have in mr. cain is a serial sexual harasser of women, a man who does not respect the right of women to be able to be employed or seek employment with dignity and not have that employment opportunity interfered with by act of sexual harassment. >> sharon, let me ask you, how did your boyfriend react when you told him at the time what happened? >> he tried to ask me more details, and i said i really don't want to talk about it. and he's a doctor, he's a physician. he loves women, and he loves children. so he respected my wishes. he knew i was upset. he said, you can tell me if you want to, and i didn't want to, again, because i was too embarrassed. >> sharon, how do you feel emotionally about this? obviously, you've now propelled yourself into the spotlight. i would imagine you gave that considerable thought. and you're going to be the center of a media firestorm. how is this affecting you emotionally? >> to be honest with you, right now i haven't even watched any of the media. i know in the next two days is when everything's going to all hit the fan, so to speak, and i'm prepared for it. you know, again, i'm a strong woman. i can get through this, and this too shall pass. i don't like what's going to happen, because i'm sure they're going to try to depict me in all kinds of ways, but that's the media for you. >> and i have to say, piers, that i really admire and commend sharon's courage. it does take a lot of courage to come forward and know that you're going to be scrutinized on every detail, but as her friends have set in their affidavits to us, they know her to be very honest, very decent, and we're very proud of her, that she has risked all that so that people can know what she alleges is the truth about herman cain and at least what the conduct was towards her or the misconduct towards her. >> sharon, if you don't get the apology that you're seeking from herman cain, will you be taking further legal steps against him? are you considering filing charges against him? >> no. i'm not. i have no intention of doing so. >> why not? >> well, first of all, i believe the statute of limitations would have run out by now. and second of all, that wasn't my goal here. my goal was simply to get him to admit the wrongdoing. it wasn't to -- look, i had hoped today had turned out differently, that he would be calling a press conference. and it didn't. and so, you know, i hope -- i hope that i didn't lose anything. i really hope that what i did will enable other women to come forward in similar situations. unfortunately for herman, he's still in denial. >> we invited herman cain on to the show tonight. he declined that offer. my final question to you, sharon, is simply, do you think that herman cain should become president of the united states? >> i don't think we can have anyone in the white house who is unable to tell the truth. >> sharon bialek, gloria allred, thank you both very much. >> thank you, piers. >> thank you. when we come back, the verdict making headlines around the world. michael jackson's doctor dramatically found guilty of manslaughter. 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>> not surprised, piers, especially when you take into consideration the amount of time that the jury deliberated. it was in that spot where, if they did come to a unanimous decision, which we knew they obviously did because they came to a verdict, and it was only ten hours of deliberation, likely it was going to be guilty. that said, you never know what they're going to say. but i wouldn't say that many people were in that courtroom were surprised. >> what was the reaction from michael jackson's family? you could hear a few gasps when the verdict was announced. was that from members of his family? >> yeah, it was from right behind me. it was la toya jackson and kathy hilton, they were sitting basically next to each other. when the verdict was announced, you could hear it over the audio transmission, but i could definitely hear it right behind me and in the courtroom it was very loud. other than that, the jacksons didn't make much in term of a noticeable reaction right away. there were 17 family members, the most we've seen all day. but a poignant moment came late after the jury had left. david walgren, the lead prosecutor in the case gave a hug to jermaine jackson and then to mrs. jackson. you could tell that they were very, very appreciative of their work, the district attorney's work in this case. >> the maximum sentence is four years, and there's also this whole issue of whether he can carry on practicing as a doctor. what are you anticipating will be the outcome here? >> well, his medical license in each of the states where he practices will have to be dealt with by those medical board. the court of law has no control over that. the california medical board has already indicated they'll suspend his license. he could try to petition for it back later, but that would be a whole other process. he's looking at four years max, but however it's likely he'll probably spend about two years and that two years maybe in a county jail because of funding issueses in the state of california. >> ted rowlands you've done a fantastic job on this trial from start to finish. thank you again for your reporting. joining me now, a member of dr. murray's defense team, nareg gourjian. not a good day for the defense team. what went wrong? >> well, you know, i think what went wrong was a lot of the pretrial rulings that were made by the court in reference to some of the evidence that we planned to offer for the jury to consider. i think that's essentially what denied dr. murray a fair trial in this case. >> how did dr. murray react after he realized that he'd been found guilty of effectively killing michael jackson, one of the most iconic entertainers of our lifetime? >> well, he was clearly devastated. he loved mr. jackson. mr. jackson was one of his closest friends. so being convicted of causing mr. jackson's death was devastating to dr. murray. >> where is dr. murray tonight? >> dr. murray is currently at the inmate reception center where he's being -- going through the booking process. upon completion of his booking process, he will then be transferred to one of the facilities, which will either be twin towers or the central jail. >> what are you expecting as a member of his defense team will be the final sentence here? obviously, he could get the maximum of four years. what do you think would be a fair punishment given that he's been convicted? >> sure. the judge has several option in this case. the judge can either grant probation and sentence him to up to one year in county jail or the court can impose a state prison sentence and either pick the term of two years the midterm of three year or the high term of four year. i'm confident and i believe based on dr. murray's lack of a prior criminal record, i'm hopeful that the court would take that into account and give dr. murray probation with maybe a little bit of county time. >> let me ask you, i suppose, a difficulty question, mr. gourjian, which is this really -- if i'd come to you two years before before any of this was happening and said to you, look,ic get a doctor to come to a celebrity client with four gallon of propofol and pile him up with this stuff all night long. i can have tape recordings of him completely gaga. and i'll leave him to his own devices while i go and off make phone call and so on, i mean, you would have been uneasy as a lawyer about that situation, that state of affairs, wouldn't you? >> well, piers, we have to remember what happened here on june 25th of 2009, dr. murray did not have mr. jackson on a drip. and that's a key point here to consider. we had witness after witness testify that propofol is not a dangerous drug. it's a safe and wonderful drug. however, if the patient is on a drip, then certain prekaucautions need to be taken, certain mon it orring equipment or resuscitation equipment is necessary to be present. but on june 25th, dr. murray did not have mr. jackson on a drip. all he administered was about 25 milligram of propofol. we knew through the expert witnesses that the clinical effect on propofol is only five to ten minutes. so dr. murray stayed -- remained by mr. jackson's side for about 30 minute. the propofol is completely out of mr. jackson's system and therefore could not have caused mr. jackson's death. >> will you under those circumstances then be launching an appeal against this conviction? >> excuse me, would we be