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on the news of the day. political junkie and funny lady, the irrepressible annie wentworth. plus a missing child, has the killer finally been found? >> the new york police department is announcing the arrest of pedro hernandez for the murder of etan patz. the last bizarre twist in a 33--year-old mystery. also countdown to the olympics. dara tor ez has won 12 medals and gunning for more in london. >> i love standing up on the blocks against the young whipper snappers and swimming against them. >> tonight i dare her to show me what she's really made of. and in america, a good deed gone very, very bad. this is "piers morgan tonight." >> good evening. our big story tonight, politics and promises. mitt romney rolls out a new ad today and makes big promise on the deficit, trade with china, the economy and jobs. let's take a look. >> what would a romney presidency be like? day one, president romney announces deficit reductions, ending the obama error of big government, helping secure our kids' futures. president romney stands up to china on trade and demands they play by the rules. president romney begins repealing job-killing regulations that are costing the economy billions. that's what a romney presidency will be like. >> i'm mitt romney and i approve this message. >> all very exciting, but can he keep these promises? joining me now is gym talent, senior adviser to mitt romney and former senator to missouri. the promise land looks great, but how many of these will he actually do? >> well, we really think that he can do a lot of them. in contrast to the president, who's failed on promises like getting unemployment down below 6%, but most of these ideas ought to have bipartisan support. the keystone pipeline, opening up offshore areas for exploration that the president's had under moratorium, lowering the corporate tax rate, repealing obama care. a lot of democrats voted against that in the first place. so this is an agenda that's doable. >> but on the specifics, like standing up to china on trade, what does that mean in reality? asall very well to say that, but what would president romney, day one, actually do or say to china to carry through that pledge? >> the pledge, or the proposal, is to have china listed as a currency manipulator because they're not allowing their currency to float. the overall message is just to say, look, if you want to be part of the international community, you have to be responsible like everybody else. >> i spoke to jack welsh last night about the whole raging fury over mitt romney's record at bain. he was interesting. when i pressed him about whether private equity companies and people that run them believe it's about job creation or making profit, he said no, it's about making money. not job creation. he wished that mitt romney hadn't tried to claim it was about job creation. what is your reaction to that? >> well, governor romney has always said, the point of going into business is to make the, successful which is defined at least in part, by the business being able to make a profit. the problem weave had in america the last few years under the president is not enough businesses have made any money. but in the course of doing that, when a business is -- when management is reformed which is what private equity companies do, that's how they become successful, then the businesses grow and they hire employees. so four companies alone that governor romney helped start have hired over a hundred thousand employees. so it's a win-win. >> david letterman had an interesting take on how president romney's day one might end up. let's look at this. >> day one. >> what would a romney presidency be like? >> day one, president romney immediately approves the keystone pipeline, introduces tax cuts and reforms and issues the order to begin replacing obama care. day two, mitt romney is reminded by his wife ann that he lost to president obama by a landslide. [ laughter ] >> i'm glad you can see the funny side. >> absolutely. >> the great thing about these ads, it may all be a figment of mitt romney's imagination. >> well, sure. you know, it's up to the american people. but we can't -- i mean, this is serious. we can't keep going on the way we've been going. the american people are suffering. i mentioned unemployment at four. median family income is down $4,3 $4,300. more and more people are saying they're working harder and findsing it more difficult to make ends meet. we need a change. this is a man, mitt romney, whose experienced in doing that. he's turned around every organization of which which he's been a part. that's what the ads are intended to remind the voters of. >> when barack obama starts campaigning ferociously, he's going to say, i saved the car industry, helped bring unemployment down, not as far as i'd like to, but made a big inroad to where it was. he's going to say that i ordered the killing of osama bin laden. the actual list of things which are to his credit, which republicans never give him credit for, is actually quite impressive, if you highlight those pluses, isn't it? >> well, he's been saying those things already. and his poll numbers are not reflecting that the people believe he should be re-elected. they're going south on him, and it's in part -- and we do give credit. the killing of osama bin laden, sure, that was a good thing. but you know, when he says unemployment, for example, going down, the american people know that's a very hollow claim. as you know, if you consider the people who have quit working, it was the only reason unemployment has gone down at all is because so many people have left the workforce. they're so discouraged they're not even looking. the state of employment in the country is as bad as it was at the peak of the recession. so it's like our campaign says, it's about the economy and we're really not stupid. and i think the american people know that we need a change. >> jim, thanks. >> thank you, piers. >> a democrat called mitt romney a corporate buy-out specialist. so i can assume you're not overly impressed by the first day of romney presidency ad campaign. >> there's really not much to be impressed with, piers. the gentleman was in philadelphia today, making the outrageous and really not too bright claim that somehow larger class sizes with children and teachers was a good thing. i think every second-grader knows that that's not a good idea. and so whether it's the first day ads, whether it is the corporate buy-out specialists of mr. romney when he was at bain capital, putting companies out of business, putting people out of jobs, and bankrupting economies. that's not the kind of leadership that this country needs, and it is why, when you look at the real record, and you were getting at it with the gentleman you had on earlier, talking about the real record of president obama, leading this country through the worst recession since the great depression, which was handed to him on day one, after he took the oath of office. from the failed policies of the republicans before him. >> here's the problem, which is this. this is a very convincing, democrat, defensive position of the president and everything he's done. >> it's actually an firmative position, piers. >> then corey booker stands up and he appears to be completely at odds with the president over the one thing that president obama has decided to really go at mitt romney about, his record at bain, saying it's nauseating? >> i think that's old news. i respect mayor booker he's doing a great job in his city and is doing his hard work each and every day. there's only one person on the democrat side running for president. that's president barack obama and we're running a very aggressive, straightforward and truth-telling campaign about mitt romney's record. now, he has made his work, leading the corporate buy-out operation, bain capital as the centerpiece of his campaign, as the reason that he should be president of the united states of america. so that deserves close examination. he put people out of work. >> it will also come down to a matter of trust. although president obama has a good record in certain areas, the car industry and so on, and i think a lot of notable successes in foreign policy. if you look at gauuantanamo bayi was thrilled to hear president obama say one of his commitments would be the closure of guantanamo bay an institution that flies in the face of american justice. then he went back on his word. so how when he makes a series of further promises about what he will do in a second term, why should we believe him? >> we should believe him because of the things that he's done in the first term. president barack obama said he would bring health care to all americans. he did that. president obama said that he would straighten out our financial institution mess -- again, that was handed to him. he did that. he's been a champion for civil rights, brought people together, helped to uniify the country. >> i get all that, but what about the things he promised to do and didn't do? >> that's why we have elections and often you get a second term. i have to believe that president barack obama knows nine million percent more about the complexity of the guantanamo bay situation, no disrespect to you, than either you or i sitting here. i'm sure in the briefings he gets and the other information that's not available to us, might have led him to make a different decision. but i have to tell you, for the millions of americans who are out of work right now,ky tell you on the ground in philadelphia, none of them are walking up to me, asking me about guantanamo bay. what they're asking about is a job. what they're asking about is going to college. what they're asking about is, will my children be able to get a great education? so these are at-home issues on the ground in philadelphia and in cities all across the united states of america. that's what this election is about. >> thank you for joining me. i appreciate it. >> thank you, piers. >> i want to bling in a woman whose take on politics is intriguing. political junkie, wife, mother, actress. best-selling author, and she joins me now. quite a long list of descriptions of you. which one do you prefer? >> lingerie model. why are you laughing? >> i'm not. wish i had the pictures to prove it. now, this election is hotting up. >> yes. >> and you have an intriguing take on all this. what do you make of where we are? the choice between barack obama who has been okay, but a little disappointing to his own fan base, mitt romney who's never excited his own fan base, but who is now the nominee. what do you think of the battle wee about to face? >> it's much closer than than i expected it to be. i'm a democrat. so i put my money on that horse. but the neck and neck thing has been extraordinary and kind of exciting to watch. >> why is it closer than people expected, do you think? >> i love that i'm the authority of this. >> why shouldn't you be? >> well, no, people come to me for their political incites. i've overtaken george in that department. i think it's disappointment versus -- everybody likes a new guy. everybody puts all their hopes and dreams in, oh, he's going to change everything and make it a better place. that's historically how politics are. but i think it will be neck and neck for a long time. and there's always comedy to miami in the selection as well. >> i think the republican race was just beyond comedic joy from start to finish upon. >> i remember tweeting during one of the debates. i'm waiting for one of them to turn to the camera and say, live from new york, it's saturday night live. >> it was a wonderful cast of characters from herman cain to michelle bachman. >> want sound bites were great. >> one of these two people will become president. i love this invitation that's arrived. a big caricature of donald trump, i want you, dying with the donald and mitt. >> makes you buy a ticket and if you win the lottery, you get to have dinner with the two of them. desblld you see that as a huge lottery to win? >> i have spent over $10,000 on tickets so far. no, i would -- for me personally i would spend the $3 on a box of milk duds, but more power to the people if that's -- you know. >> the key thing mitt romney has, he's got a lot of people like donald trump lining up behind him, very rich, die-hard republicans, who are all driven by one thing. they want to get rid of barack obama. i don't think you can underestimate that. the republicans are saying, we've had our battle, now we'll unite and give him everything we got. and i think it's going to be a really tight race. >> the irony of the wealthy and mitt romney is in that ring, the wealthy of trying to overrun a president when our economy is the worse it's ever been, i find ridiculous. >> do you buy into mitt romney's argument that he is a proven track record businessman? >> i think he is a businessman. yes, i think he's probably a very good businessman. but there's more to being the president than being a good businessman. >> what do you want to see in your president? women, i think, will decide this election, and they seem to be in the polls fluctuating quite wildly at the moment. what do you want? >> well, first of all, i would like my vagina to be taken off the table. >> is it on the table? >> it's been on the table and it will be on your table if you -- >> wow! now we're talking. >> i think that i have a hard time with reproduction rights being in the political arena, but that's me. obviously the economy, jobs, all extremely important and i don't think it's a male-female thing to want our country and our economy to be full and ripe. so as far as being a woman, which i've been for almost close to ten years now, i do think that when it gets into the planned parenthood, all that kind of debate, i really have a hard time with men debating what's okay and what's not. >> you can see mitt romney desperately trying to make it all about the economy because that's his strong point as he sees it. >> let's take a break and talk about your husband and george stephanopoulos and gay marriage. but first let's look at something that you said about michelle obama. >> is michelle obama the secret weapon behind president barack obama? according to q research michelle obama's -- is what, john? 66% and president obama's 44%? do you think a strong woman behind the man is the secret weapon? >> yes, we got it on camera. momma is the secret sauce behind that burger we call george. 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[ male announcer ] ask your doctor if chantix is right for you. >> newsweek cover of president obama that says the first gay president and it's very risky for president obama to do this, right now, pre-election. >> it could play both ways. >> it could play both ways. >> as you did once in your youth. >> president obama stance on gay marriage and she's back with me now. let's talk gay marriage. >> let's talk it, happy about it. >> you were so ecstatic that you began kissing every woman that you could find. >> not that i could find. they have to be on the red carpet. i have photographic evidence of it. >> i was celebrating gay marriage. who would not want to kiss these girls? i didn't need gay marriage to be -- >> the statement to george, to the nation, what were you doing in those pictures? >> it's so adorable you think i was making a statement. i just had too much wine. no, that was the day obama endorsed gay marriage and i was on the red carpet and these are my friends and we call kissed on the lips. >> there is only one man in your life. >> yes. >> you and george, how does that work? you always seem savvy political types. do you wake up and head for black berries, getting the political news talk going? >> yes, we talk fiscal responsibility, that's our pillow talk. i'm so honored to be called all those things you call me, but i'm really not that political a person. i'm more of a comedian. >> i bet you are, though. i've seen your work. >> but george and i don't talk about it. >> really? >> yes. he's been talking about it all day. >> what do you and george talk about in bed? >> in bed? we're both reading. >> what do you read? >> i'm reading the history of islam and he's reading instyle magazine. you know, we're like any boring couple. we talk about our kids. we talk about, did you play the plumber? >> you talk about attachment parenting? >> i'm fascinating by that. >> what did you make of that extraordinary cover? >> first of all, it was an extraordinary cover because the boy was, if i'm not mistaken in camouflage pants. so doesn't that add a whole weird element to it. he looks a little military. >> i was amazed by how few people appeared to be disturbed by it. >> when the child can ask for milk, that's the cutoff. when they run over from the playground and tug at your shirt -- no. or even worse, when they come with their uva duffel and come back from spring break and say, mom -- no, it's not. i'm not a fan of attachment parenting because i think that it makes children a little weaker and i don't mean physically weaker. there are challenges in life that one has to endure. >> yes, let them loose for goodness sake. >> let them scrape their knee. >> even monkeys at six months get thrown off the breast. >> yes. >> it's ridiculous. >> yes. all animals. >> talking of animals and trees and fights and all that kind of thing, let's move to the breakfast show wars because your husband and gma are on top in the battle with "today." is this reflecting itself? is the glory coming your way? >> no. you mean, have i gotten a new pair of shoes? >> yeah, anything in it for you? >> no. but i think it's fantastic. it's nice to be on that side of the fence. but my husband is -- he doesn't fall prey to all that stuff as much as he's just a hard worker. >> he doesn't wake up and start beating his chest? >> no, he doesn't. >> doing his tarzan impression? >> i beat my chest for him. but, no, i think it's encouraging. i think it's a great chemistry on gma. i think they all just get along well and it's, as in anything, as in movies, the sparks that are happening tonight, chemistry is everything. so i think they really have it at gma. he's doing gma, he also does this week on sunday. and i'm hoping he'll get a role on private practice so that we don't miss him for that one hour, which is why i'm on j date because he's never around. >> you have two young daughters. >> yes, i do. >> mitt romney's great plan appears to be to have great class sizes. i think that's a load of posh. i think the bigger the class size, the less chance obviously that your child will get the same kind of attention. it does depend on the teacher, but what do

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