new york and los angeles. >> you've got the area covered. accounts are slowly trickling out of the night trayvon martin was killed. we heard from george zimmerman's father and last night zimmerman's brother. he spoke to piers morgan exclusively and an actual witness spoke to anderson cooper. we put together a play-by-play of their accounts. >> george was trying to get his head off the concrete, trying to move with trayvon on him, into the grass. in doing so, his firearm was shown. trayvon martin said something to the effect of "you're gonna die now now" or "you're gonna die tonight" something to that effect. he continued to beat george and at some point george pulled his pistol. >> where was the gun? >> the gun i believe was in his inside tucked inside his pant waist. >> right. >> in a waist hollister. >> has pulled it out and he has fired it. >> well he has taken control of his firearm. he prevented his firearm from being taken from him, and used against him, and that's called saving your life. >> i kind of felt like that -- i couldn't see a lot of movement. it was very dark but i felt like they were scuffling. and then i heard a gunshot. >> lou palumbo, you hear the more detail we get it still is a very murky night. the details layer on new questions, i don't know how much they answer, as an investigator, what are you hearing when you hear all this? >> i heard the audio, the interview with anderson and it's not as murky for me as it is perhaps for others because it's becoming more and more evident what took place this evening. i listened to as i said that interview, and if you listen to that gentleman, he indicates the fact that the person who was on top -- >> you're talking about the eyewitness. we don't know if it's a man or a woman. we've obscured their identity. >> absolutely, the individual who witnessed this altercation, on a lawn, i might say, not concrete, and that being further substantiated by the fact the police indicated he had moisture and grass on his back, kind of contradicts the story. he indicates that he observes the bigger person as he referred to him after the gunshot get off the smaller person and at that point had to be obvious trayvon was on the bottom. the whole explanation of having the head banged on the concrete is starting to dilute. there are just some very serious questions about the extent of the injuries that zimmerman sustained, that he felt justified the use of deadly physical force. there's nothing that supports that. and if those injuries existed, a law enforcement agency would have taken photographs of them. they weren't even concerned about touching his clothing because of the possibility of blood as a contaminant. they didn't even put rubber gloves on. >> a lot of people made that comment. listen to what george zimmerman's brother said about the extent of the injuries. let's listen to that. >> we're confident the medical records are going to explain all of george's medical history, both how he was treated at the scene and how he was not. to me his nose looks swollen in that video. i'm his brother. >> the fact i've heard all of these people in a variety of different places talk about when your nose is broken how long does it take to swell. this is a conversation people are having around the water cooler. they were parsing video and statements and in the dark of night eyewitness accounts. >> we are privileged to have an investigator sitting next to us but somebody saying more facts, please, until we arrive at conclusions. to me there's two areas i focus on that i would like to know what happened. i would like the facts to contribute to, what happened in the pursuit. is it possible that george zimmerman broke off the pursuit and the pursuer became the pursuee. i'm not suggesting that did happen. it's his story. in the scuffle, lou, i didn't gather what you gathered. there is a big question who was on top. i think that would suggest who the aggressor is when the gun went off, and by reading the witness account, we don't know the answer to that right now. i would like to know the answer to that. >> the issue of who was on top and that constituting who might be the aggressor there's no correlation there. the reason i pointed that out is because it identifies an inconsistency in his story, and his account of having his head busted on concrete. >> listen to what the witness said about that in particular, so everyone can hear it. >> it was dark, but after the shots, obviously someone, a man, got up and it was kind of like that period of him, i can't say i actually watch him get up, but maybe only within like a couple seconds or so then he was walking towards where i was watching, and i could see him a little bit clear. i could see that it was a hispanic man and that he was, you know, he didn't appear hurt or anything else. >> so he said "after the shots," lou. is it not key? i keep wondering when the shots went off, what were the positions of the two individuals and i know we're getting deep into the facts but i think this is important. >> i don't think there's that much relevance. >> really? >> i don't. the fact of the matter is that for whatever reason we went through a rationalization process, probably driven by fear, driven by the fact that you bit off more than you could chew and hung his hat on that and shot this young man. they referred to the body of trayvon being face down with his hands underneath him. >> i read that. >> that's problematic also. how did this kid who was six foot, 160 pounds get flipped around like this. i think this is far more skewed than everybody realizes. i think mr. zimmerman got into a situation he should have never been involved in, precipitated and ended up using excessive force to mitigate it. >> the family is of course going to rush to their defense, they love their brother but a defense where the guy is saying he followed me while i was following him and attacked me and it's the much larger guy with the gun crying help. my question is, ironically, is it possible that mr. zimmerman would be in a better position for trial if the police had arrested him right away, rather than this period where he's sending friends and family out to possibly poison any jury pool and to contradict stories. >> you could tell he's not seeking counsel because the attorneys would not have his father and his brother become his spokesperson. the only thing they're going to do is continue to hurt him. they continue to allude to these real extensive injuries, none of which were supported by any type of medical examination post confrontation. in other words if you sustained these injuries and so extreme and severe and in fear for your life, why didn't you go i got to get to the hospital, i think i broke a rib. there's another explanation also. i looked at the photographs and as they continue to come through the tape there's not a drop of blood on the front of this man's clothing, and i say this to you again, standard operating procedure, when we handle you and there's a contaminant involved we put rubber gloves on. the police brought him into their "environment," started to further examine him, never thought it necessary to put gloves on and i think what he touched on his back was the by-product of moisture from the grass and casually wiped it off on his hands. >> let's bring in dave koppel. i want to talk about the florida stand your ground law and sort of the center of the debate. author of the firearms law and second amendment and member of the nra and director of the research institute in denver. nice to see you this morning. you've heard our discussion so far as really a lot of folks are parsing every new development that comes out and at the center of this issue is also this florida stand your ground law. does that florida law and others like it, do they go too far? do they allow for this sort of no duty to retreat idea? >> no. i think the things that have been said including by some people on cnn and on other stations saying the florida's self-defense laws had something relevant to this case are just either don't know what they're talking about or have been trying to mislead, as the gun prohibition lobbyists have been doing on this. florida law is clear. on self-defense the florida law, the basic standard is the same as it is in all 50 states, that you can only use when you're in a public place deadly force and self-defense if you are the victim of an eminent attack that could kill you or cause brave bodily injury or if violent forcible felony. those are the only circumstances in which a person in a public place in florida can use deadly force in self-defense. now i know we're conducting a trial by television here, but the good thing about the american system is the actual evidence gathered will be done by a grand jury and they'll come up, they'll listen to all the witnesses, look at all the facts, talk to the investigators, and they will make a determination if there's a case that's worth prosecuting here, but if, as your nassau county friend is hypothesizing, that mr. zimmerman was a criminally, killed this young man, then the florida law provides zimmerman with no protection. >> i want to talk about something florida representative richard gl lorioso who voted to are this law, he said "as far as i'm concerned, that neighborhood watch guy was breaking that law as soon as he started following that kid. he was stalking him. that's not standing your ground. if the law is applied right, it's a fine law but we worried about how people would interpret it, and how it would be applied, when we were discussing it." >> the law doesn't apply in this situation. the stand your ground law is about when a person who is a victim of a violent attack, under what circumstances do they have a duty to retreat, rather than take action to defend themselves. if zimmerman is the aggressor in this case then he wasn't the victim and since he wasn't the victim, he had no right to self-defense at all, and the issue of whether he should retreat or not wouldn't, has nothing to do with it. >> dave, i have a quick question, this is will cain. i hear you saying that the florida stand your ground law has nothing to do with this case but that's honestly your estimation right now, and it seems that the investigators on the scene did think it had something to do with this case and isn't that kind of a problem with the law, if there is a problem that it can be applied subjectively or it's vague and that the investigators and prosecutors across the state apply it differently. isn't that a potential problem? >> no, because i've read the law, you've got it in front of me on the table. it's straightforward one. >> you know what it says, but does everyone across the state of florida know the tenets of the law and apply it uniformly? >> well, if they're properly trained. i represent among other of my clients in the united states supreme court have been the international law enforcement educators and trainers association, the leading organization that trains police trainers, and when rank and file officers on the street are properly trained, they know and understand the laws that they have to apply. >> interesting enough i made a comment on an 8:00 show with soledad that this law did not apply based on my understanding of the law and that's a lot of what my statement about the criminality is attached to. >> dave kopel, thank you so much. author of "firearms law and the second amendment" joining from us colorado this morning. soledad o'brien is going to host a special town hall meeting tonight at cnn, "beyond trayvon: race and justice in america" airs on cnn tonight at 8:00 and 10:00 eastern. don't miss it. let's check in with alina cho for other headlines. >> spike le apologizing and now paying for a mistake that forced a sanford, florida, couple from their home. the film director thought he was retweeting the home address of trayvon martin's killer, george zimmerman. turns out to be the address of a home owned by elaine and david mcclain. they said the media and hate mail forced them to check into a hotel. the mcclain's attorney says his clients have been compensated and the matter is closed. ap.al greed to work with foxcon to substantially improve conditions for its factory in china. it comes in response to an investigation by the fair labor association that found dozens of labor violations at chinese plants that make apple's products. foxcon defied industry codes of conduct having employees work more than 60 hours a week and 11 days straight without a break. apple may have a new competitor in the tablet market. google will sell android tablets by summer, google trying to slow apple's massive market share with the ipad. sources say asus and samsung are potential partners to be co-branded with the google mark and sold in an online store. no one is saying whether they cut any kind of deal but it's been confirmed that mitt romney and newt gingrich had a private meeting last weekend in louisiana, it happened in romney's hotel in new orleans, right before that state's primary. sources tell cnn's john king the meeting was productive and pleasant but no further details. romney and gingrich's camps say the candidates keep in regular touch just to talk. an awkward moment on the campaign trail for mitt romney, he was picking up endorsement from former president george h.w. bush, bush 41. reporters wanted to know if romney heard from george w. bush while he was in town and here is romney's response and listen carefully as bush sr. leans in and asks romney a question. >> you know, i haven't met with president george w. bush. we speak from time to time. >> has he endorsed you yet? 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