drugs. mike green berg and mike golic, thanks for being with me. >> thank you. >> why do you think the jury did not convict him? why not? >> ultimately i think the only real witness that mattered in all of this was brian mcnamee and in and as far as unimpressive witnesses he may go to the top. this is something mike golic could have torn apart on the witness stand. >> it worked out well for roger clemens that way. >> his reputation is permanently damaged, don't you think? >> there's no doubt about it. it is the court of public opinion, i don't think is going to change much on him as far as their thoughts of him using performance enhancing drugs and the ultimate test will be the hall of fame. the writers have kind of made the decision if you're touched with peds, you're not getting into the hall of fame. i completely disagree with that train of thought. if you have numbers to be in the hall of fame, you should be in the hall of fame. if you want another way to talk about that that's fine but the writers have seemed to make their decision about that. >> he's one of baseball's greats as you know. you do you think he don't gets in this feb or forever? >> i don't think he ever gets in. mark maguire, clearly have numbers could get in on the hall of fame. they are not on clemens level he and barry bonds are at the top of that level. neither has gotten even close. i don't think roger clemens or barry bonds will ever get into the hall of fame and zero chance they'll get in on first try. >> i think in time they may. some of the greatest of the greats will in time get in but in the near future, i don't think there's any shot at all and i thnk that's wrong. mike greenberg and mike golic host of the most popular show on tv in the morning next to mine. >> thanks, soledad. >> coming up, we'll speak to famed texas attorney, rusty hardin, roger clemens' lawyer. zoraida sambolin has a look at the top stories. president obama will go face to face with china's president hu jintao. yesterday the president met with russia's vladimir putin on syria, the g-20 meeting wraps up today. here's a meeting not to miss, attorney general, eric holder, talking late this morning with darrel issa who is threatening to hold him in contempt of congress. from the botched anti-gun running operation and in exchange he wants i is sa to postpone the contempt vote. jail house recordings prove that george zimmerman and his wife knew they weren't broke. in the six calls they say he and his wife shellie spoke in code. he gave her instructions on how to change pass words and security questions and move money around. prosecutors say he talked about peter pan, which they say was code for paypal. prosecutors also say the zimmermans refer to 10 and 20, instead of saying 10,000 or $20,000. >> take $10 out today, another $10 and less than $10 and put it in her box there. >> all 151 jailhouse recordings were going to be released but that was cut down to six after zimmerman's defense complained. in the recordings, there was no direct mention of trayvon martin or zimmerman's charges. more homes reduced to ash because of that stubborn high park fire. the fire has been burning west of fort collins, colorado for ten days now. fire officials confirming eight more homes were lost, bringing the total to 190 homes destroyed. crews had to fight the fire in record heat yesterday though a calmer wind gave them a repreefr preef there. the fire is home 50% contained. wildfires are burning throughout the western united states and california and nevada and utah have all reported wild fires. fires are also burning in wyoming and in nebraska. tonight in south beach, lebron james can take a giant step towards his first nba championship. lebron's miami heat take on the oklahoma city thunder. in the pivotal fourth game of the nba finals. the heat lead four games to one, hoping to gain a commanding lead. >> miss soledad, back to you. >> come on, miami heat. appreciate it, z. turning to our top story, roger clemens now acquitted of perjury charges but not completely in the clear. next week a civil suit will begin in a brooklynn courtroom, mcnamee is suing the rocket for defamation, in 2008 clemens sued mcnamee and that suit was tossed out. rusty hardin is roger clemens' attorney. it was an emotional day to watch roger clemens come out with his family and sons around him. obviously something going on for many years now. how is he feeling today? >> he's feeling great today. went home last night with his family. we had a celebratory dinner and gathered up his wife and four children and three sisters and friends and headed home. he's back in houston now. >> how damaged do you think his career and his life has been? >> well, his life has been tremendously damaged but probably the most upbeat person. he an amazing ability to keep moving forward, four and a half years heard nothing but bad things about him. i heard mike and mike's comments a few moments ago and i hope they are wrong. i understand why they are saying what they are, they may be right. people don't seem to want to consider the fact when you're found not guilty, it doesn't always mean it was just a technical thing. here this jury, we've talked to several of them, not all of them yet, firmly convinced he didn't do. they didn't find him not guilty of technicality or lawyers, they are convinced he did not use performance enhancing drugs at any time in his career. i hope people look to that ultimately when they assess them. this guy had 13 years of hall of fame career before anybody ever suggested anything. so you look at a 24-year career, there's a three-year period where a guy claimed he did stuff that a jury totally rejected, didn't believe anything of the allegations against him. >> he has a new civil trial, are you going to be representing him in this trial? >> we will. keep in mind, this is a silly thing. this guy is suing roger claiming his reputation was harmed by roger denying the guy gave him dope. he's complaining -- wants to say he was a dope dealer and roger said he wasn't. i don't think it has much future. >> he called him a liar, said he had a mental disorder. what do you think the chance is he'll be able to be victorious in this and will that be a step forward in clearing his name and reputation which could have an impact eventually on hall of fame? >> you know, the hall of fame thing, that's always been other's people's concern. roger has made clear that wouldn't have driven him. he wanted to be considered the greatest pitcher in the history of baseball. if you look at the evidence, it was unbelievable the people that came forward to talk about what kind of guy and pitcher he was. if he's judged in history by people in baseball to have been a great pitcher, that's good enough for him. if the writers decide to put him in the hall of fame, that's fine. if they don't, that's their call. this guy is one of the best people who happen to be also a great pitcher that i've ever known. >> rusty hardin is roger clemens' attorney. thanks for talking to me. >> take care. >> ahead, iran has been repeatedly sanctioned by the united nations. why would the u.n. secretary general want iran included in talks to try to end the conflict in syria? 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co-found erp of reddit.com has a review at 8:00 on starting point. all eyes will be on the federal reserve as it kicks off its big meeting today. investors are hoping the fed will announce another round of economic stimulus and that's already giving markets a slight boost today. and jp morgan chase jamie dimon is back on capitol hill facing a second round of questioning about his bank's multibillion dollar trading loss. he'll hear from the regulators about what he may have done in terms of risk trading before billions were lost. soledad, back to you. thank you very much, appreciate that. the united nations is pressing the u.s. to accept iran into the talks about the violence in sear yu. ban ki-moon believes iran should be part of the broad discussion about the country and fate of the president bashar al assad, iran is a country that has been sanctioned by the united nations. his comments came after president obama and russian president putin came down in tense fashion talking about the syrian conflict. russia has blocked the u.n. security council resolutions against assad's regime. two leaders insist progress was made during the talk and they agreed to work with all quote, interested parties. that brings us to john negroponte, the former ambassador to iraq and former director of national intelligence. thanks for being with us. do you think in fact it's a good idea this pressing by the u.n. to accept iran as sort of a critical partner in the conversations about syria? >> i would wonder about that. i'm not sure what they could bring to a -- i would have to ask the secretary general what he thinks iran could really do to bring about a solution. they are syria's closest ally, clearly supportive of bash ar al assad. unless they had a great change of heart, i'm not sure i know what benefit their participation would bring. >> there's a cargo ship trying to get into syria, russian cargo ship. it had choppers and munitions on it and stopped off the coast of scotland and the insurance had been canceled, the insurance was carried by a british company. do you think this is at this point the best strategy or maybe the only strategy in trying to thwart that weaponry getting into syria? >> i think there's a whole number of different ways but it isn't easy. if a friend of syria, like russia, wants to get weapons into that country, i think they are likely to find a way to do it. we have to keep working on their cooperation. but meanwhile, that's just another reason why the opposition will continue its resistance and seems to be growing stronger every day. i think they are going to continue to do that. >> the opposition seems to be growing stronger at the same time the government doesn't seem to be backing down with more and more i guess and stronger support from russia. you look at the president having this meeting with the russian president and the -- after their long statement, the final line in the statement is we are united in the belief that the syrian people should have the opportunity to independently and democratically choose their own future. it doesn't say a whole heck of a lot, does it? >> the difficulty with that statement and with mr. annan's plan as good as they might be, they don't go far enough in terms of laying out a road map for political change in syria. what that country needs is political change. no one yet has laid out a path towards achieving that change. where do you start and where do you end up? >> why not? is it too complicated that russia is thwarting everybody at every turn, including china? >> there's a couple of things. the positions have to be sharpened up so they are more precise and lead towards a more definitive outcome. secondly, there has to be greater collaboration at the highest international level between ourselves and russians and chinese, at least the russians shouldn't stand in the way of political change in sy a syria. at the moment what they are doing is buying time for the assad regime. and i think that's the real problem. they are sorting flying cover for assad and this is what's causing -- what's so problematic for us and what is so -- is so harmful to finding an ultimate solution to the problem there. >> because syria buys russian weapons and syria is an ally in the middle east. if they lose that ally, they lose support in the middle east. john mccain was talking at the american enterprise institute. let me play that for you. >> when it comes to the administration's policy towards syria, to say they are leading from behind is too generous. that suggests they are leading. they are just behind. >> do you think that's true, that some of the blame for failing to lead here is squarely goes to the administration? >> well i think we're certainly not out in front. i wouldn't suggest that we have to be in the forefront of providing lethal assistance to the opposition, but i do think we have to be more proactive in trying to shape a longer term solution. if we're frustrated at the united nations we need to work with a group of interested countries, some of the neighbors of syria, turkey, arab group of countries to try to shape some better political outcome for syria. but i do think it's time for more proactive diplomacy, not only with russia, but with friends and allies in the middle east region itself. >> john negnegroponte, thanks f joining us. michael jackson's former doctor, conrad murray, is now complaining about the conditions in his jail cell. he says what's happening there is literally killing him. we'll tell you what's going on. normally big brands love the exposure in a movie. in this scene in the hangover 2 led to a lawsuit. it's our get real and that means we have to bring in our starting point team. we have margaret hoover and mark lamont hill and this is margaret's play dz list, ring ring to start your morning. we're back after the break. there are a lot of warning lights and sounds vying for your attention. so we invented a warning you can feel. introducing the all-new cadillac xts. available with a patented safety alert seat. when there's danger you might not see, you're warned by a pulse in the seat. it's technology you won't find in a mercedes e-class. the all-new cadillac xts has arrived, and it's bringing the future forward. ♪ i'm zoraida sambolin. southern baptists kicking off their convention with a ground-breaking change to the leadership. the group is expected to elect its first black president in its entire 167-year history. tough for me to say that, right, new orleans pastor fred luter jr. is running unopposed. leaders hope he will attract more members of color and distance the church from its racist past. a 6-year-old girl is being held by immigration officials found inside a van with 15 other people. group taken into custody by joe arpaio's office after a vehicle was stopped last friday. arpaio known for his tough stance on illegal immigration, says she appears to be from el salvador and no one in the group knows her. the doctor convicted am michael jackson's death is having a rough go of it behind bars. conrad murray feels like a prisoner of war. he insists his moldy, fly infested 5 x 7 cell is making him sick and fears he may not make it out alive. he still has 16 months left on his sentence for involuntary manslaughter. soledad, back to you. >> our team this morning, margaret hoover, an author of american individualism, mark lamont hill, host of our world end prize and will cain. thanks. >> all right. >> our get real this morning involves the luxury label louis vuitton. might be feeling a legal hangover "the hangover part 2", fine film, a knockoff bag made by a company called diofi was used in a 25-second scene, the real louis vuitton was not having it. take a look at the scene. >> careful that's a louis -- that is a louis vuitton. >> the fashion house was claiming that the scene harmed the brand's identity and that customers would be confused. so they sued warner brothers last year for unspecified damages, although apparently it was millions of dollars and also wanted an injunction to stop distribution of the movie and edit the scene out. the judge though, dismissed the case and said the suit doesn't hold up against first amendment rights and also defended the use of the bag as funny. i should mention warner brothers is a corporate cousin because we're all owned by time warner. >> this isn't the only accusation of knockoff origin originality regarding hangover 2. do you remember ed helms character got a mike tyson tattoo and the case was settled quietly. >> they also altered the dvd release so you didn't see it in the same way sfwl which makes you think -- >> hangover 2 ought to be sued by hangover 1 for knocking it off completely. >> that's what i thought you were going actually. >> the fake louis vuitton also in hangover 1? 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