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CNNW The Situation Room With Wolf Blitzer May 21, 2012



the united states. we talk about his personal relationship with president obama and even his personal relationship with mitt romney. stand by for that as well. and the man sometimes nicknamed america's supermayor, has made a super gaffe. i'm wolf blitzer in chicago. you're in the situation room. but first, through my exclusive far reaching interview, i just completed only a few minutes ago with the afghan president hamid karzai, it's his only interview while here in the united states. we sat down only moments ago, and he spoke of president obama just minutes before the interview. the three leaders are here for a meeting in chicago. listen to this. >> no, we didn't have a three-way meeting, we had a three-way photograph taking. >> just a photo opportunity? >> why not a meeting? why not have a three-way meeting and discuss the most important issues facing afghanistan, pakistan and the united states. >> it wasn't for us to decide on the three-way meeting. the united states was the host and perhaps they saw it fit for some other time. >> has pakistan agreed to resume shipments, trucks, bringing supplies to nato, u.s. troops in afghanistan? >> i believe they're negotiating on that question. >> they have been negotiating for a long time. but right now as far as you know, there's no agreement? >> not at this point in time, no. >> we're going to have the far reaching interview with the afghan president hamid karzai, we go in depth on all the key issues involving u.s.-afghan relations, how many troops will remain in afghanistan, will u.s. troops have immunity from afghan law if they remain after 2014? their interview will air shortly after president obama's news conference. he's expected to hold that news conference at the bottom of this hour. our chief white house correspondent jessica yellin has been covering this summit in chicago, and jessica's joining us right now. looking at live pictures by the way of the summit. jessica, pretty important discussions because the u.s. still has 90,000 troops in afghanistan, 65,000 will remain throughout this year into next year, another 2 1/2 years of true presence costing billions and billions of dollars. the stakes clearly for the united states, for afghanistan, for the region enormous. >> reporter: enormous stakes today, but the president when he goes into this press conference, he will be able to say that he has gotten the 60-plus nations who are gathered here on the same page to at least agree on a broad plan for afghanistan. they released a declaration saying the -- afghan security control of that nation, beginning in 2013 and then full withdrawal of almost all international forces by the end of 2014, here's what the president had to say earlier today, wolf. >> the strategic partnership agreement that president karzai and i signed in kabul, ensures that as afghans stand up, they will not stand alone. today we can agree on nato's long-term relationship with afghanistan beyond 2014, including our support of afghan security forces. >> to be sure, there are differences among the nations, but what the president wants to emphasize is that all nations are agreed that they will not abandon afghanistan after 2014, the word the president keeps emphasizing is that the nations are exiting this war, quote, responsibly, and of course we'll also see if the president has any major announcements to make in the press conference about anything that may have come out of this final session that they are holding as we speak, wolf. >> it's interesting, jessica, because president karzai just told me a few moments ago, as far as he knows there's no arrangement, no deal yet with pakistan that would allow the resumption of truck convoys bringing supplies to u.s. and nato forces in afghanistan from pakistan into afghanistan. it looks like the president just had a brief little three-way photo opportunity with these leaders and no real substantive break through which is what the u.s. wanted with president zardari of pakistan. what are you hearing? >> what happened during the summit is president zardari of pakistan came hoping for a president with president obama. he didn't get that meeting, what he got instead was a quick opportunity to exchange words for the president and then a quick photo with president obama and with president karzai later today. he did not get that big meeting for precisely the reason you point out. he and his country did not come to terms with the u.s. on an agreement to open the supply routs back up for the u.s. to bring both troops and supplies in and out of the pakistani country, in and out of pakistan, because pakistan simply as my sources are saying, asking too much money for this. and so this is not going to be negotiated, u.s. sources are saying at a presidential level, it's going to be negotiated before the presidential level back in the region and so there is no resolution here at the nato summit, so the two presidents did not have that sitdown meeting. the u.s. has insisted this will be resolved maybe in some weeks, maybe in some months and not here. >> as you know, jessica, it's been going on for some six months since some u.s. -- the pakistanis have been demanding a formal policy from the united states, from the obama administration, there's been a lot of high level meetings from the white house about such a policy. it doesn't look like the obama administration is going to apologize to pakistan and that's been one of the issues stalling the retemperature sh -- we'll see what the president has to say in his news conference on this sensitive issue coming up in a few minutes. jessica, thanks very much. while members of the nato alliance meet here in chicago, protesters are taking the city by storm. today's more peaceful demonstrations are drawing a sharp contrast to some violent clashes, on sunday, dozens of protesters, eight police officers injured. what is the latest, paul? >> well, wolf, i'm standing just outside barack obama's campaign headquarters and about 200 protesters are beating on drums and they are conducting a peaceful demonstration, so all is calm right now. the temperature's also much cooler, gone up to about 94 degrees yesterday. let me go ahead and bring in the superintendent of police, jerry mccarthy. superintendent, tell us basically what the strategy is, you want these protest -- >> we're going to let them stay, you know, this is exactly what we have been doing virtually all week. there's only been a number of scheduled permitted events, other than that, we have had unscheduled marches and rallies and we have said from the beginning that we're going to facilitate people's right to the first amendment, free speech that we all enjoy as americans while preventing criminal behavior. i want to make a distinction, certainly publicly that yesterday was not a clash between protesters and police, that was a clash between criminals and police. we' they're protesters and we're facilitating their right to do so. >> reporter:'s been some reports that the protesters took some sort of paint and put the paint on and went up and confronted police? >> we know it to be true. the people who we put our hands on, 99%, we probably got them in custody, but in the pulling and stuffing, there might have been some people that we lost. we have only had 93 arrests, i believe for the entire period of this week, regarding nato type protests. or nato protests. in regards to the event. you know, i think the issue is that, you know, the news isn't what happened, the news is what didn't happen. we didn't get the numbers that we expected and at the end of the day, it's been a largely successful event. >> some of the protesters felt that they felt that they were dealt with unjustly, that you were heavy handed and didn't need to use the batons. what do you say? >> i say that's nonsense. clearly the video is going to show a group of people getting together and challenging the cops. that was something that we knew was going to happen. we could have told you that months ago. it's going to continue, and that's why we have to draw the distinction, this is free speech, that is criminal activity. those are criminals, these are protesters. >> reporter: we appreciate your comments, thank you for coming out, superintendent mccarthy. >> we'll stay on top of this part of the story as well. president obama's live news conference expected to begin within the next few minutes, when it happens we'll of course bring it to you live here in "the situation room." and much more of my sitdown interview with the afghan president hamid karzai. he's weighing in on the war in afghanistan, his relationship with the united states, even his personal relationship with president obama and mitt romney. and the manic named america's supermayor is doing some damage control after what some are calling a super gaffe. 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the president will be answering questions on a wide range of issues, i assume, including the u.s. withdrawal from afghanistan over the next two and a half years, also, i'm sure politics will come up and we'll see what the president has to say. following the president's news nference, you'll hear my exclusive interview and you'll see it as well. with the afghan president hamid karzai, he weighs in on a whole bunch of issues relating to afghan conduct. one united states congressman, that congressman even though he was democratically elected will not, not be allowed ever to come into afghanistan because of the certain he has made. you're going to want to see this part of the interview, the entire interview will air after the president's comments. our national political correspondent jim acosta is -- what's going on today, jim? >> reporter: the romney campaign has dubbed it the bain backfire, the rnc has the episode up on its main page all pointing to what democrats once considered an obama campaign super surrogate, but then cory booker then stepped on his cape. he's been the stuff of super here row status. cory booker started a fire of his own. >> this kind of stuff is nauseating to me on both sides. >> reporter: openly kris sites the president's a -- lumping it in with republican attacks on mr. obama's former pastor, jeremiah wright. for team baobama, it was campai kryptonite. if you look at the totality of bain capital's record, they have done a lot to support businesses that grow businesses and this to me, i'm very uncomfortable. >> the mayor retreated to a political fortress of solitude to explain his comments. >> i used the word nauseating because that's the way i feel. >> reporter: the obama campaign then selectively tweeted out that less nuanced portion of the video. >> i believe that mitt romney in many ways is not being completely honest with his role and his record, or even while a business person. >> i really feel in my heart, people don't know what romney did to marian, indiana in 1994. >> senior advisors to the president say the gop contender's business experience is still relevant. >> we're not questioning the private equity industry as a whole, we're questioning what lessons and values mitt romney took from that experience, and whether that's the economic philosophy you would like to see in the oval office. >> have you had enough of president obama's attacks on free enterprise? >> reporter: but the come my campaign is ready to talk about. booker's defense of wall street also comes as he's said to be considering a run from the senate when he'll need plenty of support from high-dollar donors, that is if he can reclaim those political superpowers. >> i got this. >> booker! >> reporter: the obama campaign said it did not ask booker to release that web video. the romney campaign has plenty to say. one advisor told me they now see the president as punishing anybody who strays from the democratic message, even cory booker. >> jim acosta, thanks very much. let's dig a little bit deeper now on this part of the story as well as new attacks on the romney campaign coming from the obama campaign. our chief political analyst gloria borger joins us. are these-what's going on here? >> reporter: i think they're a little bit of both, wolf. first of all, the obama campaign is coming out and saying, okay, mitt romney has campaigned about business being able to create jobs, well, take a look at his businesserience, the campaign says, he's a job killer, not a job creator. but what they're also doing, wolf, and this is the sort of more subtle attack if there's anything such as subtly in political campaigns. the more subtle attack is to say this is a matter of character, this is about mitt romney's values. in one of those calls that campaign advisors have to kind of spin the media, the obama campaign says these same values would have severe consequences for the middle class. so a two-pronged attack that they think is going to work for them in the long run. >> what about the reaction coming in from bain itself? is bain reacting to these attack. >> reporter: bain is reacting and saying 80% of the companies in which we invested did very well. and a particular -- they said, you know, we left that company in 1996, we had it since 1992, and it closed in 2000. so the question, wolf, is, is the obama campaign trying to blame bain for something bain says was very much marketplace related and by the way, after they left control of it. >> will bain, some analysts, i guess democratic analysts suspect will be the case, will bain become an albatross around romney? >> that's clearly what the obama campaign is hoping, wolf, they would like for this to be an example of how mitt romney doesn't care about the middle class, isn't a job creator but a job killer. i think what mitt romney has to do is fire back. they run a couple of these web videos, mitt romney has come out and said, okay, barack obama criticizes private equity, but that doesn't stop him from raising money from private equity. and he talks about creating 100,000 jobs. i think mitt romney needs to get a little bit more focused about how he responds to these bain capital attacks, wolf, because they're going to keep coming, it hu hurt him once, it could hurt him again. the president's news conference is expected to begin begin any minute. you'll see my exclusive interview with hamid karzai, we go into a wide range of issues. after the next two years, will u.s. troops be subject to afghan law? 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