0 is timberview high school in arlington. about an hour and 35 minutes ago at washington liberty high school which is not far away there was also a report of an active shooter. police showed up, they cleared that scene and as soon as they cleared washington liberty high school, they got reports of an active shooter at timberview high school. the active shooter clearly at timberview that turned out to be a reality because we are now hearing that a number of people, we don't know that they are teachers or students but a number of people have been wounded. we don't know anything about don't like more than that but it gives no concept of something it was going on in arlington today because a couple of threats were turned in and one turned out to be not a threat on the other turned out to be exactly what we are seeing on the screen right now. he had these different scenarios that police are trying to work out and you can imagine that every other high school in and around the arlington area is either going to be on lock down very soon or they will try to get those kids taken out and put on buses and sent home until they can figure out what's going on citywide. harris? >> i wanted to step in a little bit, we wanted to get this detail in here. the atf dallas field division is on the scene. they are at timberview high school in mansfield in response to the shooting event and i'm reading from the atf twitter and they got the name of the school room. they are in the process of handling the dissemination of information at this time. so they'll probably will need to clean that up. but here's what i would say. the way that trace described what now has to go on inside that school, you need to eliminate whether or not the suspect as they are. you can't go door to door to door with what could be a hundreds of students left, you pull them out to read vacation places where authorities or are they on the side that they would load them onto buses and take them. and as trace pointed out, what we see at the top center of the screen, i don't see the location where they will drop their knapsacks and of backpacks on water bottles and all that but they will have to do it before they board the buses because technically it everything they see its potential evidence at this point. they don't know necessarily, at this point, or at least if they do, they haven't told us, but you think whoever has done this might be neutralized at this point. the burning of question as to why and what people knew before that question, post questions always persist in the seconds, minutes, hours, days, weeks and months after something like this. so putting that puzzle and those answers together means everybody coming out of the building has to be treated like potentially maybe they knew something. so that might not be as the suspect but it could be as a subject of someone who might have known what was about to unfold. or i can say some things during or after that are helpful to piece this together. investigation starts immediately and as trace pointed out and so did ted williams, former d.c. detective who was with those moments ago, all of this was about saving as many lives as possible. this is still being listed on the twitter page of the arlington police department, they have not updated that this is not an active scene yet. so it is active. trace, one of the things i want to know more about it, and you were getting into some detail about those, the parents. to go to that reunification point. they had it up in a tweet, because it is wider and broader in terms of getting that information then i can be helpful to see it, wherever you see it. whether it's on your phone or fox network, wherever it is. if you can get that tweet. so everyone is told to go to the reunification pointed at the center for performing arts located at 1110 west debbie, and officers will be there at the scene. and now as it says they would eventually be bused, they are in the process of getting those kids out of harm's way and taking them to that reunification point. >> it might be a long process and, now there's 20, 25 or maybe more buses that have lined up to pick the students up but it could be a long process. you have one bus that pulls up because you know they are going to do this section by section of at school. you only have so many officers being allowed inside the school and you see where that yellow school buses, you have law enforcement personnel that are right there on the lawn so they no longer believe there is an active shooter inside the building because you can see them kind of milling about. they are not in defensive positions so that's one thing you kind of take off the table. the next thing is you have to go in there and unit by unit, building by building, class by class, they have to clear these areas to make sure that everybody is okay. the students of course are sheltering in the class and the law enforcement will come and identify themselves when they get to that class, take it out and take the students out portion by portion and then the students who happen to be outside will get a chance to go around and won't be allowed inside the building and they will be taken first. he looked at the whole totality of this and you can see that it's an all-hands-on-deck scenario. you got fire trucks, numerous ambulances, you got police and sheriffs, and all kinds of as you mentioned, police and atf on the scene that we are also getting reports from local affiliates that they are -- he saw a helicopter zoom out, but now there are reports that you have a number of police units and federal agencies that are at a nearby house and it near timber view high school. we don't know if there's a potential suspect an outhouse or if they believe they have some leads and the concept here is now they will start looking for who is to blame and who is behind. a >> harris: great details as we try to piece together from the outside looking in what has happened today. a large high school in arlington, texas, and they have not gotten everybody out. this is a very early part of the process of trying to evacuate that campus. as they do so i want to bring in ken trump, president of national school safety services. ken trump joins us by phone. mr. trump, you are with me? do we have him? ken trump. are you with me? >> yes. can you hear me? >> harris: yes. we are connected. i know these are horrible circumstances to have that. can you hear me? >> i can hear you fine. the a >> harris: let's talk about this campus. are you familiar with this campus at timberview high school? >> not the specific campus but it mirrors other districts that we work with around the country including other districts in texas and that particular region of texas as well. the situation that you are seeing as you have clearly illuminated is, unfortunately far too common in that we know what is occurring. right now you are looking at a tactical situation where officers have an enormous path facing them to clear these large high school campuses that are huge with next and crannies and places where there could potentially be people. you are talking about buildings that housed thousands of students and school staff, so your first effort is obviously responding to those who are in need, as previously mentioned by trace talking about going into a situation where the first officers on scene enter. you don't set up the perimeter, you go in and try to neutralize the shooter even if you have to step over and around those who are injured temporarily, to neutralize that shooter. the next step in that process is of course getting a date to those who needed and then you face this enormous task of clearing the building in a methodical way that's going to take a large number of people. you will need a controlled evacuation and we will see that scene that we'd seen far too often with kids and adults coming out with their hands visible to know that they don't have any weapons or pose a threat. so where do these kids need their parents who are right now clamoring for that i want to step in and come up because you asked that question open wide, and anyone who may be searching for the answer, we have the answer and it's an extremely i want to cut in and ask everyone to take the information out of that sweet with the reunification point, let's isolate that information so we have it on the screen. this is going to be a process. moving off to the left, and as they stop, pick up children, trace gallagher had mentioned moments ago they are likely dropping their belongings because i can't take those items with them. this is a crime scene. they will begin to go through those kids and put them on buses and take them as ken trump was just saying to her reunification point. we know that that is at the center for performing arts. that's at 1110 west debbie. so a little distance away from where we are looking at right now, which is the high school where we know multiple shots rang out, multiple victims. in those victims, we don't know the configuration, whether they were young people, students, faculty, administrators, we don't know yet who has been hurt and all of this but we do know that they've been transporting people pretty quickly after resources where there, police and fire and emergency services arrive. on the phone with me now is ken trump, national school safety services. when i say your title again, i want to know specifically what you can tell me about keeping a campus like the safe and it likely what with the assets to be there. do they have a way to remotely lock all the doors? what does that look like? >> well, first of all in many texas school districts they either have their own school police departments or they have school resource officers assigned to, especially at the high school level. we may not say that as much at elementary, we typically see it in a lot of middle schools but in high school i would expect a school resource officer, some physical security measures to reduce access and control to the main office point as best as you can do that on a large campus or perhaps multiple points with other areas reduced. but we also want to have schools prepared and this is something that we are just talking about more as kids come back in a covid-19 context. many schools have not thoroughly reviewed a traditional school emergency plans like lockdowns or controlled evacuation, or apparent reunification because of been so focused on covid-19. not saying that's the case here but it's something nationally for your viewers, we need to shift back and look at those safety plans as well. but looking at the number of buses, who are spot on with getting that information out on parent and student reunification because the number one thing right now is parents want to wrap their arms around their kids. looking at the number of buses, it looks like you are talking about a large high school. look at the number of us as we have going down the roadway lining up, so you're probably talking a couple thousand kids at least. you may have data coming to you on student enrollment, but it's a large campus. then when they go to the parent and student reunification center it's critical for the parent, as a father myself, the immediate goal is to get to your kid and they have to account for all those students and document who they are releasing them too and that will be a process that you talked about as well. but it's for the safety of the kids and the adults. parents walking to the scene now, that won't help them come up that will only delay getting them to their kids. >> harris: you are pretty spot on with your number there. we are looking live and seeing the very first exit point now of students who will be loaded up onto buses and taken away from their home learning center, they are home base, there campus for their high school years. this is arlington, texas. this is timber view high school. this is where 1,895 students attend school. we are in a pandemic, and many have returned in person, so with ken trump of the national school safety services who has joined us today was just pointing out, it could be upwards of 2,000 students and others in that building, and he was right. he is right. it is potentially a packed situation today. you couldn't see them, you couldn't see them all in one purview of the camera. but the point of all of this, of getting them out of harm's way obviously is to reunify or get them to the reunification point. unify them with their parents. and police are there. the mansfield performing arts center, the mansfield school district center for performing arts, 1110 debbie lane, we have isolated that from a tweet that went out. now it's all up on your screen and if you think somebody needs to know this. okay. i'm being told i'm going to get to this now. mayor jim ross, mayor of arlington, texas, is with me now. mayor ross, first of all can you hear me? >> i can hear you. sorry about that noise, and out of town right now. >> harris: no worries. i'm so sorry that this is happening to a school in your area. we know a number of students potentially and we are trying to get our mind around the sprawling campus. >> it's a great high school, part of the mansfield independent school district but it's physically located in the city of arlington. i don't know a whole lot about the incident itself. i know that we have apparently two people who have been injured and transported to local hospitals. we are in the process of evacuating the remaining teachers and students to get them to a safe area where they can be reunited with their family. >> harris: tell me this. just in the makeup of the students and the school, there are an extraordinary amount of buses here and to move upwards of 1800 kids out of one location, you would need that. how far away will they be taken to this performing arts center? >> i don't know the specific but it's not that far away. it's far enough that we believe we will have a safe location that has been secured by the police department to ensure that the kids can reunite with the families there. >> jim ross, we had seen reports that there was some other incident at another school in arlington, texas, today, nothing like this but a situation that required attention from law enforcement. what can you tell us about that. what have we learned and is there any connection that you have heard of? >> i'm not aware of this other incident that you're referring to, and i don't know of any potential connection on this. >> harris: got trace gallagher who has been on with me now, and trace, i know you've asked that question. we have details and i know you are looking into this. i'm with the mayor of arlington right now, jim ross. >> what we were hearing earlier is that it was washington liberty high school that there was a threat of an active shooter and there were police that showed up on scene. they went through and cleared that school and it was only minutes later mr. mayor that timberview then did have an active shooter. i don't know how far washington liberty is from tip review, i'm wondering if you know the distance, and that was a question harris was posing earlier. is there a potential connection, do you know if maybe that is being looked into? and we are also hearing on the scene that three were shot. we do not know if they were students, we don't know if they were teachers or faculty of any sort and we also believe at this point in time although they have been taken to hospitals that there are no fatalities and they cannot or have not located a shooter inside the school. do you know any of that? >> the shooter is not in custody, at least that i'm aware of in the last few minutes or so. i believe there have been a number of witnesses who have been able to help identify the shooter, and the ongoing investigation is looking for them as we speak. >> harris: do we know if the alleged shooter as a student at the school? >> i don't know if it's a student or who it is. >> harris: you said witnesses could identify him. >> right, that's what i've been told. and we will want to talk with you again as the scene plays out. thank you. if the police department is a scene in arlington, texas, is joined by mansfield law enforcement, and here's their update. >> we are going to try to do an orderly fashion to try to bring them out of the school to ensure that they are brought to their parents. okay? once the search is completed we may well make sure that the students are transported on a bus to the south side of the school to the mansfield independent school district at the performing arts at 1110 debbie lane. prior to the students leaving the building in an orderly controlled fashion, we've got police officers that will take photographs of their identification to make sure that the ball of the are accounted for in an orderly fashion. now as tragic as this is, we will take it very seriously in law enforcement. we do have a suspect who is identified. what we believe happened preliminary is that there was a fight between students and another individual in the class. and a gun was used. and if there four victims. i'm heard that a person of interest right now is timothy george simpkins. he is a black male at 18 years of age. we have a car that he is currently driving, or we believe he is driving. a 2018 silver dodge charger, license plate pfy6620. we currently have u.s. agencies including the u.s. marshals task force looking for this individual. this is a collaborative effort between state and local and federal agencies to bring this person to justice. >> i'm tracy aaron, the chief of police in mansfield and i want to think say thank you for all of the agencies. mansfield responded to this the same as all the other agencies and i have to assure you that the departments are doing at a great job in bringing all of this to a close. what you are going to see now is that there is going to be continued searches for our suspect, the chief has already told us what that looks like and we have asked for the citizens help to continue to search for that person and calling any leads that they may have. this person is considered to be armed and dangerous and i would suggest you call 911 as soon as you see that suspect vehicle. we are continually making those searches throughout the state as it turns out. have the victims in your thoughts and prayers. please lift those folks up in your prayers, some of those are already in surgery so be thinking about them. be thinking about our suspect and their family. need to bring this to a safe resolution and that's what our goal is. thank you all very much for being here and thank you for your help. >> thank you. daniel says may, grand prairie police department. i'd like to echo the chiefs comments with our thoughts and prayers to the families. i want you to let you know that the grant. police department role is strictly a support role. although we believe the suspect is currently at large you will see the grand prairie s.w.a.t. team and s.w.a.t. teams of other agencies clearing the school to make sure there is no other additional dangers. the grand prairie police department is also actively involved in the search for the suspect partnering with the united states marshals service and the fugitive task force and they are out as we speak looking for the suspect. as i mentioned this is a very large collaborative effort and our goal is to make sure that all of the students here, not to just come out safe but feel safe so we are working toward that as we speak. you should see very shortly a large contingent of students coming out orderly, moving out to the buses and moving to the location already indicated. our recommendation that parents go to that location, that chief colby mentioned, the address, rather than coming to the school. coming to the school here will just make things more difficult so please go to the pickup location. inc. you very muc