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also significant, and we're going to have more on these moving developments in a moment. but first, trump announcing today that he is now officially a target in the investigation into the 2020 election. and sources tell cnn that this target letter caught trump's team off guard. they actually got a formal letter, it's called a target letter from the doj. they say they had not been anticipating charges against trump at all, never mind expecting a target letter now. this target letter comes in the face of an enormous amount of recent news in that case. we've learned the grand jury has heard from a long list of trump confidants and inner circle members including the former vice president, mike pence, the chief of staff mark meadows, his son of law jared kushner and many others who were behind closed doors with the president privy to what he said privately and not publicly. and we have learned prosecutors have interviewed election officials in the seven battleground states where trump's team falsely claimed fraud and put forward fake

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if you say something about an election, they want to put you in jail for the rest of your life. we have prosecutors that are evil people. these are evil people. deranged. >> trump's remarks just hours after he scrambled to call top allies on capitol hill, including the house speaker kevin mccarthy and the house gop conference chair elise stefanik to strategize. you know what's happening here, kristin, who trump's talking to, what they're saying. what are you learning about trump's strategy here? >> reporter: well, look, there is always going to be two strategies in theory. the political strategy and the legal strategy. but as we continue down this path with more and more of these legal issues, more and more of these indictments, they really start to merge together. and that's what you just saw there in those unannounced remarks. he stopped by the lynn county republican party. a small group gathered there to cheer him on. and he talks about how deranged this is. this is part of their election strategy because they are going to continue to paint this as a

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the pr issue or the legal issue. and, sadly, this makes the pr issue for trump a positive. >> all right, stephanie, van, ryan, karen, thank you all. and, next, trump is actually in iowa right now. and he is about to speak first time since revealing he could face his third indictment of the year. what do you expect he's going to say? and ron desantis defending his campaign as it is lagging even further now behind trump. >> our bread and butter were people like suburban moms. we're leading a big movement for parents rights, having the parents be involved in education, school choice, get the indoctrination out of schools. >> is the culture war front line in education a backfiring strategy for him? governor chris sununu of new hampshire, whose endorsement desantis badly needs, is "outfront" next. breaking news in ukraine tonight. putin launching a new wave of attacks on the city of odesa. our team just capturing this

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opposed to the others. now, let me ask you about the significance of the target letter in one other specific way, which is trump's team, they say that they were surprised to get it. maybe they were, maybe they weren't. but then they started going around to see if anybody else got them. and we found out today that john eastman says he did not get one, that rudy giuliani did not get one. what does this mean? >> i don't think it means much. unlike a lot of people. the reality is they've been in contact with eastman and his lawyer for some time. they'd been in contact with rudy and his lawyer. remember just last week, he visited with him i think for two days. they can have those conversations orally to the extent that those people actually are targets. target letters are not required. and, frankly, they typically go out in cases such as this to

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obviously delaying it past the election appears to be a core part of trump's strategy, delay it and hopefully it goes away, this is a judge that trump appointed, trump has been on national television calling on her to do the right thing, when you look at it, look at what she has done thus far in the case, do you think she is acting in good faith are being influenced by trump? >> i don't know subjectively what's motivating her, but i do know that trump lawyers are not just in this case is but in cases around the country arguing for any possible delay or postponement to try to push it into next year where they can say surely this can't be done election year, it has to be pushed until after the election. so when he was president his claim was, he could never be prosecuted for anything because he is president, when he was no longer president the argument became now he is a candidate, now he is a candidate can't be prosecuted, so all of these delay and postponement,

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just -- at a moment's notice. it's an extremely fluid situation. >> all right, alex, thank you very much. we're glad that you are safe. thank you for sharing all this with us. alex live from odesa tonight. we'll continue to monitor that in these early hours of the morning. it's about 2:39 in the morning where alex is right now. next, meantime, ron desantis defending his campaign. he's been obviously struggling to gain traction. the republican governor chris sununu whose endorsement desantis needs badly, is "outfront" next. and all eyes are on florida this hour. a federal judge there could decide at any time when trump will go on trial for the classified documents case. as i said, that could happen any moment, and congressman jamie raskin, a member of the january 6th committee, will join me. it not only cleans, it h hydrates my skin. as a dermatologistst, i want what's best for our skin. with 1/4 moisturizing cream, dove is the #1 bar dermatologists use at home. oh, booking.com

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along with the special counsel's idea of doing a trial as soon as december. the special counsel is saying that, look, this case is not a complicated trial. of course, the trump team is saying he's running for office, they want to litigate a number of things including the fact that they believe that the special counsel doesn't have the authority to bring this case. they want to litigate whether they can use the evidence collected from evan corcoran, one of trump's former lawyers, or actually he's still a lawyer for the former president. so there are a lot of things they say they still need to fight over between now and picking a trial date. she says that she seems to be inclined to pick a trial date, though not here as soon as december. we'll see, though, what date she does choose. and, of course, erin, we know that that could always slide simply because the former president is looking to try to stretch this as much as possible between now and the election day in 2024. >> all right, thank you very much, evan. and of course the possible indictment in this other case,

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a "bloomberg" database showed she had only taken four criminal cases to trial. >> she's never tried a white-collar criminal case with all the complications that go with intent and with evidentiary rulings, let alone classified documents. >> reporter: we reached out to judge cannon's chambers and asked for response to the criticism that she's been biased toward former president trump. we didn't hear back. during her confirmation hearings, she was asked if she'd had any discussions about loyalty to trump. she decisively responded, no. wolf? >> brian todd reporting, brian, thank you very much. and to our viewers, thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." "erin burnett outfront" starts "erin burnett outfront" starts right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com "outfront" next, is trump about to be indicted for the third time? trump and his lawyers say they're caught off guard. federal prosecutors telling trump he is a target in the january 6th probe.

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it all becomes a true chess board. all right, thank you. let's go to ty cobb now, the former trump white house lawyer. ty, appreciate you. so let's start with where we are tonight. trump finds out he is formally a target. will he be charged in days? or do you think this takes longer? and is there any question it happens? >> i think he could be charged as early as thursday, and not likely later than monday. >> all right. well, that's a very tight window. now let's talk about charged with what? what do you think he will be charged with here, ty? >> there are a variety of ways to charge this that all boil down to the same conduct. conspiracy to defraud the united states, conspiracy to obstruct or an attempt to obstruct an official proceeding such as the pence proceeding, and even the

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