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say that they are all in relatively good condition, they are undergoing a medical assessment at this time, pam. >> and so far, kaitlan, no americans as we know have been freed. despite that, president biden says he's hopeful at least a few will be released in the coming days, perhaps tomorrow. we'll have to wait and see. by the end of this four-day pause in fighting, hamas is expected to free 50 hostages. of course, that is assuming this truce holds. other conditions in this deal include the release of dozens of palestinian prisoners in critical aid getting into gaza. >> matthew chance has been tracking this and these hostages and how they finally made their way after a difficult journey back to israel. here's his report. >> reporter: they kidnapped and killed. but now hamas is showing its gunmen releasing israelis in gaza. for many, these are disturbing scenes. 9-year-old ohad munder. an old woman being carried by a masked man as palestinians cheered. after 49 long days of captivity in gaza, aid workers from the red cross drive them from the border into egypt and to freedom. a convoy of vehicles heading to the crossing, then the hostages, including ten thais, a filipino, and 13 israeli women and children disembarking. israeli military posted this grainy video of the moment they all finally re-entered the cou country. a step, said the israeli prime minister, towards bringing all the hostages home. >> translator: we have just completed the return of the first of our hostages. children, their mothers, and additional women. each one of them is a whole world. but i emphasize to you the families and to you, citizens of israel, we are committed to return all our hostages. >> reporter: most of the hostages released in this first group under the temporary truce were taken from nir oz, one of the small israeli communities near gaza ravaged by hamas on october the 7th. at least 38 people there were killed, and more than 70 abducted. people like daniel aloni and a 5-year-old daughter, amelia, both freed in this release. the relatives they were visiting when hamas attacked remain unaccounted for as hostages. behind every release, a poignant reminder of those left behind. like the family of omri almog. his brother killed, his sister and three children still hostages, yet omri is optimistic. >> the best is in front of us, it's going to come. whatever happens, we cannot change. nadav is no longer with us. adan, the beautiful girl, is not with us anymore. >> but there's still a chance? >> yes, yes, yes, yes. we have to bring what's left. we need to bring back what's left from this family. it's a broken family. >> reporter: a broken family in a country of shattered lives. >> joining me, two prominent and well-sourced israeli journalists, amin tuvone, you're also a survivor of this attack. we'll get into that in a moment. tomorrow, the second day of this release, today seemed to go relatively smoothly and according to what people thought. what are you expecting, what are you hearing tomorrow could look like? >> first of all, i just got a text message from a friend of mine, a good friend. the only thing he wrote there, kaitlan, was, "we're going to get some of them back." because his family was captured, was kidnapped in one of those kib kibbutzim on the border. they're going to get them back. just seeing this text message made me so emotional about this. i called him immediately. and this tells you something about how emotional this day has been for israelis, just seeing them getting back now. so the families have been notified across israel. they know that they're supposed to see them back home. but when we talked, we told each other, until they're here, we can't trust this. and everything is so fragile right now, because you're dealing with this terrorist organization, and you can never know until they actually do this. >> yeah, i mean, that's what everyone has said, even the families who are notified, they wait until they can actually embrace them. from your kibbutz as well, there are hostages that are still being held tonight. what are people holding out hope, what are they saying? >> kaitlan, it's a difficult situation. on the one hand, i can say for myself but also for my friends and neighbors in my kibbutz that was attacked on october 7, five people from our kibbutzes were kidnapped -- we're very happy for everyone that came out yesterday. i was so horrible last night. i couldn't really sleep. just full of excitement and happiness for these families. at the same time, i also want to raise a voice for the families that did not see their loved ones yesterday, did not get a phone call last night that they should expect them today. we still have so many people in the hands of these vicious terrorists from my community. we're talking about two young girls, sisters, and two fathers that their families want to have them back, and an elderly woman, a grandmother. so we want all of them back. i think hamas is really playing very, very vicious, very cruel psychological game here with the disinformation. one of the women that was released yesterday, a few days ago, they announced she was dead, mouse she's alive with us. so what they're doing with disinformation and really a psychological warfare is tormenting to these families, and they think one of the challenges that i can see from my own community is through these very emotional days to continue supporting the families, telling them, we're with you until the end. if it doesn't happen today, if it doesn't happen tomorrow, we are with you fighting until everyone comes back. >> she was one of the older women released today. they claimed she was killed as a result of an israeli air strike, now she was released today. i do think that speaks to the psychological warfare. >> absolutely. >> what is the reaction in israel to this deal overall? because it is this moment of haebness that there has been so little of since october 7th. seeing these people come home. also this comes as there's a pause in the fighting. you're seeing the release of palestinian prisoners going back to the west bank. we've been watching those videos all evening as well. >> first of all, i think it's an immense sense of pride. israelis are proud to see that their country will do everything, including posing what it sees as an existential war in order to our people back. get our children back. and get 85-year-old grandmothers that were part of the establishment of this state. so this sense of pride, you can see it radiates across the israeli society. and you see the support on one hand. but you also see the worry. and the worry is about how this pause can somehow translate into something that holds back the idf from advancing in the gaza strip. people want this operation, this war, to achieve its goals. people want hamas to be totaled. they want hamas leadership to be eliminated or brought to justice. they're not going to budge. i think this thing doesn't transcend into sometimes nationally speaking. people think this pause might be the beginning of a cease-fire. no. we're polling this, we're seeing this. it's not 95%, 90% who are saying, you don't stop this war until you finish off with hamas. we're not going to allow you to do that unless you take down this threat on our border. we can't grow our children here knowing what happened to amir and his family can happen again. >> how does the prime minister netanyahu deal with that? it's calibrating that support at home based on what you're seeing in these numbers to continue this but also the growing international pressure that we hear from many that they believe maybe that could increase as they see this pause playing out? >> so first of all, kaitlan, i think israel is very lucky at this moment to have one very, very good friend in the world, president joe biden. >> indeed. >> i think he did a lot of work to get to today that we are seeing these hostages released. i know that right now, his administration still supports israel's attempt to topple hamas and to put an end to this threat. and as long as israel has president biden's support, i think people realize that we still have a little more room to maneuver. of course, we know he's also taking a hit for us here. we're seeing what's happening in the united states. we're seeing the voices, sometimes from within his own party. we realize it's not easy for him either. we realize we don't have all the time in the world, but right now we still have some room to maneuver, and that should be used to remove the threat. because like my friend said, at the end of the day, a country that allows an organization to do what hamas did in my community, just one of many communities on that day -- murder children, kidnap children, murder women -- these are not things that a country can allow to exist on its border. so right now there is i think a sense of unity around the need to finish the war. but also, there is a lot of support for this temporary pause. and one important element on the international scene is that israel right now is allowing a lot more aid to come into gaza, a lot more help for the civilian population in gaza that also has suffered a lot in these last few weeks. we're not numb to it. we see the pictures. we understand what's going on. our sense, and i'm speaking on behalf of myself, but i think it's widely shared in israel -- is that it's a tragedy but it's inevitable because we have to finish hamas, and hamas is operating from within the civilian population, using the terrain of gaza for its own interests. this has unfortunately led to a tragic reality. but the need to finish hamas is still a consensus at this moment. >> speaking of consensus, is there one within the war ca cabinet, the government, or how is that being navigated at this time? >> i think the war cabinet is relatively in consensus that the war continues, it will continue south. we know that hamas leaders are there. we know that the possibility to finish off with the organization's control of the gaza strip is with an operational movement of the idf. and this is going to happen. we don't see political rifts right now within the war cabinet as to the continuing of the war. and this is one of the reasons that you saw the general cabinet in israel, the government in israel, supporting this kind of deal. because they saw the resolve of the idf and the resolve of the prime minister, also the two leaders that came in, the political leaders who joined the cabinet that this needs to continue. on the other hand, there's a growing understanding, like amir said, that in order for the war to continue, you need to make the situation in the gaza strip as far away as possible from a humanitarian crisis. because if you have humanitarian crisis, this might somehow pose the idf advancement. and that's the reason we're going to see much more humanitarian aid coming into the strip. >> much more just in the last 24 hours alone. but still, aid organizations say it's not enough. amir, i don't want to let you go without -- you are a diplomatic correspondent. we've talked about your reporting. also, you're a survivor of this attack. i wonder what it was like for you to watch what we saw today? >> honestly, it was the first evening since october 7th that i felt happiness. it's not complete, it is far from complete until we get awful our neighbors and friends back. but a glimpse of it i felt yesterday, and that's why i'm very, very grateful to president biden for all the effort that i know he and his team put into making this important moment happen for us, the people of israel. >> first glimpse of happiness. we're so happy for that, amir t uc tubon. who was released today? it's not just 13 israelis, there are also 10 nationals and a filipino citizen as well. we'll explain who the palestinian prisoners who were released in exchange. what will saturday bring? the next day of this release. there is a list in the hands of israeli officials of who could be next of hostages to be brought home. this just in as egypt says it is pleased with how day one of that temporary pause in fighting between israel and hamas has played out. the chairman of the country's state information service pointing to israel's agreement to stop flying those surveillance drones as they have been doing alongside the u.s. over gaza, one reason for success. he added more deliveries of medical supplies, food, and much-needed fuel will also continue to help the situation in gaza that has become so desperate. earlier today, the united nations reported 137 trucks of humanitarian aid have made their way into gaza, marking the largest delivery of aid since israel's total blockade happened immediately after the october 7th attacks. of course, the complex hostage release deal between israel and hamas has held in its first day, but there are still big questions. what does day two look like? will it make it through the days ahead? for more on that, joining me is as i don't care foreign policy reporter barack raveed who is incredibly well-sourced in the re region. how confident are you sources that this deal, that hamas and israel will both abide by it, that it will go on until the four days have elapsed and those 50 hostages have been freed? >> day one, i think we can agree passed with sort of full compliance of the plan and each side did its part. the hostages were released. the palestinian prisoners were released. the humanitarian aid came in. the drones stopped flying. there is a pause in the fighting, both in gaza and in lebanon. so overall, day one was pretty good. but as we go into day two, i think there are a lot of question marks, especially on the israeli side. hamas transferred a list of hostages that will be released tomorrow, but there was some sort of discrepancy in this list that i think in the next few hours will have to be sorted out. and if it's not sorted out, then we might have a problem. >> what more can you say about that discrepancy and whether or not it could cause issues on day two? >> so the list has 13 hostages that are going to be released. i think eight children and five women. i think that some of the names in the list raised several question marks. and i think it will have to be sort of resolved and those questions will have to be answered. at this moment, i don't have enough information to share other than that. but there's i think -- there are question marks that will have to be resolved in order for this deal to go forward. >> i understand there's only so much you can say. do israeli officials, sources you're speaking with, seem to be confident they could overcome those question marks? they can get answers to those questions? or do they believe maybe this could hinder day two of the release of these hostages? >> so i think the last i spoke to officials in tel aviv, it was something like around 1:00 a.m. local time. and i think it was sort of end of day already. so most of the people i asked said, we'll have to wake up in the morning and see where this thing is going. they'll have to speak to the qataris, qataris will have to speak with hamas, see exactly what the issue is with the list of hostages. >> okay. so we'll wait to see what that looks like, what your reporting is. when we talk about this deal overall and what hamas is getting from this, they're releasing these hostages. but keeping this going on, keeping this pause happening at the time, i don't think anyone thinks that they will willingly give up all of the hostages here, because that's their leverage. what would it take to get the other hostages we've been talking about? the men, the fathers, some of the idf soldiers? obviously that's not going to be an easy feat for anyone to actually be able to bring them home. >> yes, i think i totally agree. i think there is zero chance to get the men and the soldiers out in some sort of a deal, a diplomatic deal, at the moment. the reason is that the price that hamas wants to get for them is such that no israeli government will be able to give. and i think that the israelis, what they want to do is that after this pause ends and after this deal, the current deal, ends, to go to southern gaza, to rafah, to all those places, continue the military operation, and put even more pressure on hamas than they did so far, hoping that when they really get to people he will think twice and say, you know what maybe now it's time to also release the men and the soldiers. but i haven't heard from any israeli the thought that they can be released in a diplomatic deal. >> how soon do you think israel goes into the south? they've very clearly been telegraphing that is their next military step in gaza. how soon do you think that could happen after this pause? >> i think it's going to happen pretty soon. you know, the initial pause is four days, okay? let's say hamas manages to bring another 10, another 20, another 30. it's not going to be more than a week of a pause, okay? and then they'll just resume the operation. so i think now we are under the impression of this deal, we're under the impression of almost 24 hours now without fighting. but this thing can resume very quickly and i think it will will be there's no reason to think the israeli military will not resume the operation in the south. as my two friends you spoke to before, amir and nadav, said the israeli public overwhelmingly supports the continuance of this war. and no israeli politician will do anything against where the israeli public opinion is right now. >> he said there's very strong support based on the numbers they're seeing. barack, thank you for joining tonight. in gaza, many civilians are breathing a sigh of relief tonight. that temporary truce has taken hold. of course, it has become much quieter. cnn's jomana karadsheh has a closer look at what it looks like on the ground. >> reporter: it's the sounds of life, not death, on the streets of gaza today. for the first time in nearly 50 days, they're not running for their lives. no bombs raining down on them from the sky. some children can even smile again. even if only for a brief while. but there's nothing to celebrate. too many lives have been lost. so much gone. and they know there will be more. the israeli military dropping leaflets on friday, warning people that the war is not over, it will soon resume. and telling them to stay away from northern gaza and its troops. many still tried to head back to the hopes they fled with nothing more than the clothes on their backs to see what's left and grab what they can find, including their dead. >> translator: we want to see what's happened to our loved ones. so many are under the rubble for 20 days. we need to get them out. >> translator: who else will bury them? who will bury our 2-year-old and her father? what did she do to them? >> reporter: it was a tense scene on the highway linking north ask south. people here saying israeli forces opened fire on those trying to head back north. "we want to get to our homes. they say this is a truce? we're civilians. they shot people. one was shot in the head, and the other in the mouth." gunfire and the panic that ensued captured in this video geolocated by cnn. asked about these shootings, the israeli military says its troops are stationed along the, quote, operational lines of the pause in accordance with the framework of the agreement. but that didn't stop those determined to get back to what's left of their lives. sisters cradling their cats, who have been through it all with them, say they know the risks but they just want to go back home. gazans know all too well what comes after this brief calm. "what's this truce for? to hand over the hostages? what happens after they hand them over? what happens to us? we feel like we are dead." they hope it doesn't all start again, but all they can do now is prepare for a cruel winter ahead. >> our thanks to jomana for that report, an imp

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