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israel is expanding its military operations against hamas including in the south many palestinian men -- >> second term including price cuts to prescription drugs. plus it means style charm or attractiveness. it was made viral by generation z on social media. oxford is unveiling it is the word of the year for 2023. can you guess what it is? we are following the stories and many more all coming in right here on cnn news central. right now in gaza is really troops are operating in southern gaza for the first time. this new front is where hundreds of thousands of palestinian civilians fled after evacuating from the north. that is why a top un official in the region put it bluntly today we have said it repeatedly we are saying it again no place is safe in gaza. the head of the red cross visiting gaza today pleading for humanitarian relief and for the icrc to be allowed to visit the 137 hostages still held by hamas. those visits could be more crucial than ever now as hostage negotiations have collapsed. moments ago the white house slammed hamas for ending the talks. jeremy diamond is in israel. jeremy get us up to speed on israel's latest operations. >> reporter: these are really expanding its ground operations into southern gaza over the last several days. we have watched as israeli military has been pushing deeper into southern gaza after focusing its ground operations of the last month merrily in the northern part of the gaza strip. at least one tank was spotted less than five kilometers away from central -- one of the main cities in southern gaza. the israeli military said operations in northern gaza are nearly completed and the defense minister saying that those operations will lead to the breaking of the entire area of gaza city and the north of the gaza strip. but there is no question in speaking with israeli officials the focus in the coming weeks will be in southern gaza. in part because israeli leaders believe many of hamas's leaders have led to the southern part of the gaza strip. and as they are doing that they are coming under intense pressure from the united states in particular to ensure that their operations in southern gaza looks very different from what we saw in northern gaza where there were heavy heavy civilian casualties as the israeli military pummeled the northern part of the gaza strip and drove tanks and infantry troops into densely populated urban areas. we've seen israeli military has been ordering civilians in southern gaza to evacuate from key areas of the southern part of the gaza strip dropping leaflets near -- is the same key city in southern gaza. also dropping leaflets with the qr code dividing up gaza into hundreds of districts a map that is really officials say will help with evacuation of key areas. there are major challenges to the effectiveness of those orders. especially as more than 80% of gaza's civilian population is already internally displaced. israeli officials in many cases the directing gazans to move towards a -- where we have already seen in recent days there have been israeli airstrikes in those areas and un officials warning that shelters they are are already overcrowded. >> talk to us about hostage negotiations jeremy. have the u.s. blaming hamas for them falling apart. how exactly did this and and from the israeli perspective what are the prospects for getting them back going? >> reporter: while it appears these talks have stalled if not broken down entirely for the time being. primarily it appears over this question of email hostages still being held by hamas in gaza. israel has made very clear that they will not move forward with the broader question of negotiating over men as well as israeli soldiers until all of those women hostages are released from hamas captivity in gaza. hamas for its part appears to be indicating it believes those younger is really women are considered soldiers because they are of the age to be called up as reservists. israeli officials of course reject that concept entirely. so for now it appears we are nowhere close to a resumption of that pause and fighting to allow for the release of any hostages or for that much needed rest it for civilians in gaza from bombardment. >> thank you so much. now to the white house which is where mj lee is. what did we hear from the administration? >> reporter: rihanna for weeks we have seen members of the administration talking about the need for israel to be more surgical and more deliberate as it continues on with its military operations. and they've made clear what they do not want to see is a repeat of what we saw in northern gaza the kind of massive air campaign that caused such widespread casualties and destruction. jake sullivan at the national security advisor to the president was just at the white house briefing room and he said he could not offer any kind of comprehensive assessment as to how israel has been conducting its military operations since the fighting resumed on friday. but i pressed him on that little bit. take a listen. >> can you offer any kind of initial assessment based on what you've seen since friday? >> the fax i have seen the past few days is that israel has identified a very specific area has asked people to leave that area. israel has actually coordinated the commencement of military operations on the ground in the south with that kind of notification. now what i can't judge is how many of the people in that area as of right now have received that communication. because i'm not on the ground so i don't know that. what we have indicated to the israelis is that they need to use every means of tool they have available to be sure when they actually move in and force into an area in the south that they do so with some confidence that people have actually gotten safe passage out of that area. >> reporter: something else that i did ask jake sullivan about is whether even the fact these hostage talks appear to have entirely stalled, whether the white house could contemplate making some kind of side deal just to secure the release of the dual american citizens that are still being held back in gaza. he basically said all of the conversations are still ongoing and intensive and would not rule anything out. he made clear the conversations he has been having with the families has been incredibly challenging. >> i can only imagine. live at the white house. thank you. let's dig deeper on all of this with edelstein a member of israel's -- the chairman of the foreign affairs and defense committee. thank you for sharing part of your day with us. so formal negotiations to free the estimated 137 hostages still in gaza have hit a dead end. multiple senior u.s. officials tell cnn the talks do not appear likely to resume anytime soon. what needs to happen to restart these negotiations to get the hostages out? >> well i think that we just witnessed a couple weeks ago that military operation military pressure -- hamas closer is they have to negotiate the release of the hostages. the unfortunately they broke their promises made to egypt to the united states. as far as the previous judgment release of the hostages. we have no choice. we have to resume -- authorization. i hope -- hamas will understand -- they will have two dart renegotiating. they broke their promises corresponded already mentioned on the release of women and children. and this is exactly what we are trying to reach right now.>> israel's top domestic security official said that israel has to eliminate hamas leaders all around the world even if it takes years and even if it means going into lebanon turkey and cutter. cutter helped negotiate the release of hostages. are you on the same page with him? how do you avoid drawing those nations into a broader conflict with israel? >> i sincerely hope there will be no broader conflict because everyone understands that hamas is a very dangerous -- in the area. compared only to isis. what they did october 7th -- decapitating babies young women. does not want to go into these graphic descriptions. makes us all to come to one conclusion. as long as hamas is sitting in gaza. as long as -- is alive there will be no quiet and peace in the area. that is why with the head of our security service said is i think shared by 90% of the israelis. we have to get rid of all those who committed the atrocities and we can't -- bring the -- at least some initial start of normal life in gaza. that under rule of hamas but under some normal government. >> i think that might be the consensus in israel. it is hard to say that is the consensus in the region especially if you're sending officers or officials into lebanon or turkey. two eradicate hamas officials they are. it might lead to collateral damage. you are not concerned that can spark a broader war? >> no one is sending right now -- anywhere. right now dealing with the danger on our southern border. i don't have once again to repeat what our peaceful communities on the southern border went through on october 7th. the message we get from these people is quite clear. we will combat we will -- every culture in our normal life. on one condition. that there will be no -- to hamas. as long as -- they are a threat. we all have to understand that. right now we are concentrating on the military operation in the long run. they have to understand -->> when it comes to the intelligence failures on october 7th the new york times published a portions of his intelligence report that detailed jericho wall. that showed hamas had these plans more than a year before october 7th that it was within is really intelligence people were aware of these plans. were you aware of this report before october 7th? why don't you think it was taken more seriously? >> it is a very fair question that you are asking. as you can imagine i work very closely in my position with the israeli defense forces and the secret service. this is a question that is being asked by everyone. there was a terrible mistake -- whatever you call it. it will all be thoroughly investigated after we finish the military operations. right now everyone -- the head of our secret service -- we are all dedicated to one goal. and this is the return of the hostages and the elimination of hamas. this is what we are dealing with right now. we don't have time actually to start right now with the -- investigation of the mistakes. once again one thing we made sure that we right now don't repeat the same mistakes. in terms of who is to blame and who exactly knew what this is something that will leave for later. >> you did not specify when you learned of the report. i am curious before we go what do you think accountability looks like specifically for prime minister netanyahu. do you think he should resign? >> everyone their responsibility. political leadership. military leadership. myself a share of the committee. everyone does. as i said there will be a special committee to investigate all of that this independent committee will decide who bears which part of the responsibility. who knew what. who had known what. the things that are surfacing right now are troubling. on the other hand we do have to say that -- defense forces they managed to overcome -- by this terrible -- the operating in gaza right now trying to do this trying to reach the goals security cabinet. this is something that they get full support from from the israeli public. >> we have to leave the conversation there. we appreciate your time and perspective. >> thank you for having me. still to come we have no reporting on how the biden campaign is hoping to use new healthcare proposals to win a second term. accusations of academic meddling against harvard university. a researcher saying she was put out of a job in order to protect a relationship between the university and facebook founder and make a donor mark zuckerberg. the seminoles sidelined. florida state winning every game this season going undefeated but getting shut out of the college football playoffs. why? we will discuss when we come back. >> we are also going to fight to give much better healthcare than what you have right now. this is a newer subject but obamacare is a disaster. i say we are going to do something about it. >> obamacare we are going to replace and supersede with a better plan. >> there you have former president trump in florida governor ron desantis vowing that if elected they would repeal and replace the affordable care act. the biden campaign now seizing on those threats preparing to unveil a series of healthcare measures that biden would aim to pass any second term. kevin is live at the white house. kevin what more do we know about these healthcare announcements and the political plans coming from the biden camp? >> these are ideas that have been under discussion for a while. they are gaining new momentum with this bowel from president trump and others to repeal obama care should he regain the white house. certainly president biden was actually surprised to hear his predecessor make those remarks just given the attempts during his own administration that went nowhere to repeal obama care and replace it with something else. that surprise also feel that relatively popular plan that went into effect during the obama administration. now some of the things president biden could be discussing in the coming weeks and months include a plan to expand these drug cut price reductions including on insulin that are currently in place for medicare recipients. the president also discussing expanding federal premium subsidies talking about a workaround potentially to extend this medicaid expansion that some states have passed but other states have not. even talk about repealing or revising the public option essentially government run healthcare the president biden had campaigned on in 2020. certainly the president and his team very aware this is a highly potent political issue. and preparing to go make an affirmative case for a second term using this healthcare argument in the coming weeks. >> kevin thank you. for that report. let's expand the discussion with scott jennings he previously worked for former president bush and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. deputy chief of staff for former congressman adam kissinger. press advisor to john bainer. she is the founder of blue stack strategies. thank you for being with us. scott or see you on the campaign trail the subject of the threat that trump poses to democracy. it has been brought up by chris christie. it doesn't appear to be a winning issue on the right. is that why trump's rivals are not calling him out on it? >> well depending democracy mean something very different to trump's voters than it does to joe biden's voters. if you look at the polling it pops the term pops for both republican and democrats. if you're somebody who loves donald trump you think democracy was damaged by biden winning. if you voted for biden you think donald trump tried to steal the election. i think you will hear both parties talk about it. what it means to both sides is something very different. i think the democrats have had success with it. with independent voters we saw that manifest itself in november of 2022. >> let's talk about this these healthcare comments. because we are hearing them now over the weekend from trump and also from desantis. do you think this is a good move or is this for? >> it is an easy win as far as a talking point goals. it is easy to say let's repeal obama care. it gives real leadership to come forward with a real plan. and ideas. and explain to the voters how you would improve upon our healthcare system by making it more transparent affordable and accessible. while it is easy to say those things and trump and desantis are going to use it as a rally cry to campaign off of i hope voters are actually going to follow up and wonder how they would actually make our healthcare system better. >> what is the strategy when you're talking about repealing and replacing something that is popular with three out of five americans? >> again explaining how it benefits them. we are a nation that really families are looking at their bottom dollar and what they are spending money on. they want to know how a policy or how a plan is going to impact them personally. and so i think talking to them about those issues and really zeroing in for that is going to make the most impact of voters. for the trump -- they only hear one thing. the more moderate and independent voters are going to want to hear a concrete plan. >> scott you know well the way the last effort to repeal and replace obamacare went in the senate. basically up in flames. it backfired on donald trump if you look at the 2018 election. why are republicans bringing this up again? >> well it is one thing to say i'm going to replace or repeal all of obamacare. i think the better thing to talk about here would be the thing that people often are most often bring up is a problem with healthcare and that is affordability. premiums are up. it is true deductibles are up. it is also true if you're someone who plays for their healthcare either a monthly premium through your employer often times it feels like your insurance costs have gone up at your coverage has gotten worse. i think instead of repealing obamacare. the real conversation if i were advising a candidate is how am i going to bring down costs and make it feel like your insurance is actually insurance and not something that has just gotten more expensive but worse in quality? depends on who you ask. if you get healthcare for free you probably think it is great. if you're somebody who has been paying for it or you own a small business and pay for for your employees you probably don't think the private insurance market has done well. >> that sounds like a thought out argument from scott. not what we have heard from donald trump. the question i was getting two more specifically is why is donald trump ringing it up at this time when it hasn't yielded success before? >> i think he is bringing it up because he still believes republicans want to repeal obama care. he probably feels like it was a failure it did not happen on his watch. it may be a knee-jerk reaction. also to something he read. he may have read an op-ed talking about obamacare and he went out and did not think it through and just brought it up. he often does that. i would not expect he has a fully thought out strategy or plan here. it is something that crossed his desk and he said it out loud. this is par for the course for the way donald trump manages political communications. if you want to have a healthcare debate in this election there is a way to do it. you've got to get laser focused on affordability and have a plan to say here is how i'm going to make it more affordable than the other guy. >> we've been hearing from liz cheney. she has been warning about 2024. about former president trump of course but also about the rule specifically mike johnson could play considering his role last time you worked for a house speaker. do you share any of these concerns and how do you see her criticism? >> i understand her concerns. i think when we are looking at 2024 there is the real threat to our democracy. as far as i think either candidate either candidate if they won people are saying of the two options we have which i hope is not the two options. biden versus child. it will be in their 80s. why are they running? either candidate. why are they running? for the other guy doesn't win was mac does not enough reasons to be the president of the united states. so i think her concern i would say she focused on her experience with trump and through her front row seat during the january 6 committee. how he has already tried that the power of the presidency. somebody who doesn't seem to understand how the constitution works. and somebody else who doesn't seem to understand ha

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