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in his hush money cover-up pays to terminate the gag order against the former president now that the trial is over, cnn's kara scannell joins us live care. what arguments are trump's attorneys making to the judge? >> so trump's lawyers have said that since this gag order was put in place just before the trial started, and it was put in place to protect the integrity of the proceedings because trump was prohibited from making any comments on court staff af on the prosecutors, on any witnesses, and on the jury, they're saying that now that the trial is over, the judge should lift this gag order because that was the reason for it to be in place is no longer happening. and what they wrote in the letter as now that the trial is concluded, the concerns articulated by the government and the court do not justify continued restrictions on first amendment rights of president trump, who remains the leading candidate in the 2024 presidential election. and the american people, they're saying that there's even a stronger reason now to lift it because several of these witnesses in the case, michael cohen, stormy daniels, he made comments on it president joe biden himself has commented on the verdict and he sight they cite in their letter, even the upcoming presidential debate that you will be moderating is another reason why this gag order should be lifted. so they sent this letter to the judge yesterday. it just became publicly available and we're waiting for the judge's response on this. now, previously a spokesman for the court he said that the order speaks for itself and the language in the order does say it would continue to be in place through the proceedings. exactly when those proceedings are deemed to have end. is the question here, which trump's team is clearly seeking some clarification on? trump has violated this gag order ten times. the judge finding him in criminal content. and finally i am $10,000. so certainly a concern by trump's team that they want to lift this gag order so he doesn't potentially run afoul of violating it. again, now that the campaign is back in full swing, jake qarrah, kara scannell, thanks so much, president biden, in a brand new lengthy interview with time magazine, the president declared he is it's a fit for a second term. times massimo calabrese asking biden if he is concerned that the large majority of americans think he is too old, biden says, i can do it better than anyone, you know, you're looking at me. i can take you two question. did you consider not running again because we were age biden? no, i didn't and question and what do you say to americans who are worried about it? biden. >> watch me, calibrate. >> he pushed biden on whether the greatest threat to america's national security comes from not abroad, but from within in us politics to which biden responded, quote, i think it has a significantly diminishing impact on our ability to get things done internationally. there's not a major international meeting i attend that before it's over that a world leader doesn't pull me aside as i'm leaving and say, he can't win. you can't let him win respond, referring to trump there and then there's this president biden acknowledging there is meddling happening in our upcoming november elections times calibrates he asking if there is any evidence that china is behind madelene biden responded, quote, there is evidence that meddling is going on. i'm not going to get into i don't think i should from an intelligence standpoint, all of this comes after a lengthy portion of the interview centered around biden's foreign policy and the growing crisis between israel and gaza. president biden refusing to say if israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu crossed his red line in rafah, but biden declared a ceasefire is necessary dairy and is holding firm in what he sees as a solution. biden saying, quote there needs to be a two-state solution to transition to a two-state solution on quote, which we should say that. so now who opposes with me now is the journalists who conducted this exclusive interview with president biden times massimo calibrate, thanks so much for joining us again, we had you here for trump one. now you're here for the biden won. >> first of all, did he did he threatened to take you on? did i read that quite did you say did he was a light-hearted moment in the interview? it was quite funny actually i was certainly not expecting that response, but it was funny well, for the record, i mean, what you think you could think, you don't have to answer that. i'm just let's move on. let's start. president biden brushing off any concerns about his age. how did he seem to you? >> i, mean he appears very much as he appears on tv. he is older than when he started in office. it's visible. if you just look side-by-side on the tape the transcript is a good place for people to go to assess that. he was we describe it in the piece as well as some sort of color description of how he appeared in there when it came up, did you get the sense that he takes the concerns about his age from according to polls, a majority of the american people, including democrats seriously yeah, he didn't pause when we asked him about it. he came back pretty fast. i think to some degree that may be a stock answer. i didn't get the sense that he was troubled by it, but yeah, let's talk about policy. you also asked them about the border so how some of his first acts as president were lifting trump era immigration measures that he considered inhumane. you asked him if he thinks lifting the measures drove to the record illegal border crossings. he said no you asked were you wrong to lift any of these measures? biden said, if i was wrong, it's because i took too long. what do you make of that? in light of what he did today when he talked about basically trying to do something that trump tried to do and was stopped by courts, which was get rid of asylum claims at the border. >> so we did ask specifically even about whether he was considering putting back in place remain in mexico, which was kind of a version of what he did today. he said he wasn't this was obviously something that they were in the middle of working on when we did the interview. i do think as a matter of policy this is a hard issue for any american politician, trump biden everybody has struggled with it going back 20 years when i was covering congress people have been struggling with this. so i think dramatic to see him bring out this new policy today, but certainly something that they were working on when i was in there when you read the transcript, most of the interview seem to center on foreign policy. the warned israel, ukraine, domestic policy doesn't come in until the rapid fire part near the end obviously, it's very tough to conduct an interview with somebody who is the leader of the free world are trying to be, there are so many issues, but was that what you were hoping for or is that just kind of how the interview? >> no, i was focused we were focused very much on foreign policy going in one it's an area that hasn't received as much attention so far in this campaign. two, we've got the normandy anniversary coming up and we are at an interesting moment, jake, where the paradigm that american leaders have used from the republican party and the democratic party for generations is now in flux. we have a great quote from senator jd vance about how normandy and this kind of world war ii, post-world war ii view of the world hold it is kind of a fairy tale that people tell themselves. so we wanted to take a look at its, it's an important moment and also a lot of the domestic issues that we think about and talk about even today immigration, inflation are tied to foreign issues. so we were focused on that going in your instrumental in getting these to cover stories done. if he wins with trump there on the left, if he wins with biden there on the right, i'm obviously not going to ask you who you're going to vote for, but give us your measure of the man at this point in time how we're going to have a debate obviously on june 27th you saw them both up close and personal. what should viewers of the debate on june 27th expect yeah, it's interesting they're obviously very, very different people. >> one of the reasons again, why we wanted to focus on foreign policy is arguably, there have never been two more different positions on american foreign policy between the leading candidates for president ever certainly in 100 years, there's a huge amount of consequence in which way these men take the country china is an adversary, the likes of which this country has never seen. they have two very, very different approaches to how to, how to handle that. so watching them tackle those questions, they handle them in very different ways. i think it's a good opportunity for readers and viewers to go and sort of compare both in the transcript and then the two stories. >> yeah. and the transcripts up and the time.com site. thanks so much. a maximum calibration. always good to see you. thanks for being here. thanks. and you can bet democrats running for office and tough races are going to want to read every word in that time magazine interview to see whether it helps or hurts their campaigns. and one of those candidates joins us now, michigan congresswoman alyssa slotkin's, she's running for us senate seat in the great lakes state. thank you so much for joining us a lot of that interview was on us foreign policy times, massimo calabrese asking biden has netanyahu crossed your red line? biden, quote, i'm not going to respond to that because i'm about to make a anyway. so obviously this is a huge deal in your state. a lot of jewish american voters and your state, a lot of muslim american voters really upset with the biden administration. a more than 100,000 voted non committed or whatever it was during the michigan democratic primary is this issue is biden's support for israel going to cost him michigan in november. do you think? >> well, i definitely think i can't overstate how this issue is roiling my state on with the largest arab and muslim american population, a large jewish population active campus so it's definite and were integrated. i mean, i think people miss in michigan that jews and muslims, all michiganders, we live together. we go to school together. we plan sport teams together. so it's definitely roiling the state and i think the president has been clear that he it's he has to reach out to people. he has to make those connections, keep those conversations life even when there are difficult, even when people don't agree. i will say the most important shift that can happen can come with a negotiated ceasefire deal. we have one on the table, the israelis, even foreign all right. parties have agreed and supported it. it is now on hamas to decide whether they want to prolong this war. continued to have the suffering rain down on the, on the people of gaza, or if they're going to accept a deal that's very similar to the one that they presented six weeks ago. so this is kind of an open, are very important moment i was at the white house talking to someone the negotiators this morning and that is the biggest thing that would change things in my state is actually a negotiated ceasefire. >> what do you make of the speech that prime minister? that's in yahoo is going to give two joint session of congress. i've heard that there are a lot of democrats that are not going to go knock on attend. i think senator bernie sanders said he's not going to attend are you going to go? >> i mean, first of all, we're still working on the date. i think there was some misfiring on my the speaker of the house invited him on a jewish holiday. i'm assuming they will find a de i'm going to come and listen to any prime minister that comes here. we had two prime ministers from other places and that doesn't mean i agree with everything he agrees with, but that means i'm going to listen, especially given this issue. like i said, head is so affecting places like michigan. yes. >> the house just voted to sanction members of the international criminal court because they are seeking arrest warrants for for prime minister netanyahu and the defense minister yoav galant. they did this at the same time, they issued warrants for three liters of hamas you voted with republicans to to pass the sanctions actually explain your vote. how did you vote? >> and, and why? >> yeah. i mean, look, i've been really clear that to create a false equivalency between israel and hamas, a terrorist organization. first of all, it doesn't do any good, doesn't affect the things that people want to affect. it sends the wrong message and i don't port that. and so today, the bill wasn't perfect. no bill is perfect. >> but in line with that sentiment, i voted for the bill and i think there's a lot of political bills that are making their way through congress right now on this issue not a lot of substance, but in terms of where my sentiment is because i just don't think that moves the ball in a positive direction to equate the government of israel to a terrorist organization today, president biden issued a new executive action that will allow the us government i'm going to ban migrants who cross the border illegally from seeking asylum. here's a little clip of what the president had to say we must face the simple truth to protect america as a land that welcomes immigrants, you must first secure the border and secure it. >> now, as simple truth is there is a worldwide migrant crisis to, united states done to secure our border. there's no limit to the number of people may try to come here you have long been urging president biden to take stronger action at the border. >> are you satisfied with his executive order today? do you think it's too little too late i mean, i'm in supportive what he did today. >> a group of us wrote to the president, i want to say three weeks ago and said, look, we wanted a budget. are we wanted a border deal. we were negotiating in the senate a bipartisan deal that got killed. so kind of out of desperation and ahead of the summer surge and migrants, we want you to take some action even though we all know that this action is going to go to court, that it's shakier than we would like what we really need is comprehend pence of immigration reform. but in the meantime, like no one's happy when they look at the southern border and feels like it's going well. so it's not perfect, but i am supportive of the action that he took today. and anything we can do to actually as a nation of immigrants deal with the immigration problem, we want people to come here in illegal and vetted way from their home country he spent not walking over the border like this, giving giving are customs and border folks the responsibility to decide who gets in and who doesn't. it's just it just no one thinks that it's going well. and i'm glad he took some action today, yesterday the university of michigan regions and attorney jordan akre faced a second frightening incident. >> his home had been approached in the middle of the night by pro palestinian protesters. yesterday. his office was spray painted with phrases like free palestine divest. now um, meaning university of michigan kills splotches of red paint left on the goodman acre sign above the building store, the president of the university, santo ono he called the vandalism anti-semitic, the targeting of akre akre says he was targeted because he was jewish and he is the only region whose office was targeted. josh crash our who is the editor-in-chief of jewish inside there are noted on twitter last night that quote, senator gary peters democratic michigan called the vandalism of jordan akre office anti-semitism, congresswoman alyssa slotkin running for senate calls it intimidation related to the middle east conflict, unquote he seemed to be suggesting that you're you have a different position. you don't think that was anti-semitic? >> no. i think i mean, i think the targeting of one of the only jewish regions in a jewish community, wright in a jewish name neighborhood. i mean, it's absolutely anti-semitism. we've got a real problem with anti-semitism going on in the state of michigan right now, that incident coming on the heels of of going after reagents, homes, coming on the heels of people we'll add a conference of palestinian kind liberation conference talking about armed resistance and celebrating people who use violence and it's right friday now, that's what i'm saying when i say that this issue is roiling, our state so we'd been trying to figure out how to deal with it. and i think that these repeated incidents people are not understanding not only do we have a problem with hate speech and anti-semitism, it's deeply ineffective. whatever you're trying to do, it's not helping the cause, it's hurting, it so we're we're trying as a community to figure this out, but it is absolutely on the increase and it's it is dangerous didn't your fellow my cradock, congresswoman from michigan, rashida tlaib, speak at that conference that you're talking about? >> she did a number of folks spoke and it was it was i would say a bit of a shock. >> someone the things that were said by speakers at that conference, and i think some of the people who were celebrated, some of the things that they were talking about in terms of resistance its armed resistance it was a shock to see it happen there obviously not. everyone said those kinds of things, but if you're at a conference where those things are being said we have a problem and it is just it is frankly some of the people connected there have some deep roots to some really scary people in the middle east and we're thinking about how to approach that problem democratic congresswoman, a list of slotkin of michigan. >> thanks so much for joining us. >> thank you. >> you heard how biden tried to brush off concerns about his age and that time magazine interview coming up here here with donald trump said about it, you might be surprised by his answer and this breaking news just in a major service disruption or at&t customers, what we're learning about this one. >> next the increase in wildfires is exponential, unpredictable uncontrollable. >> with overwhelming the need to do something is urgent with we have schreiber and get knocked upon cnn news central menopause supplements help unpause life when symptoms posit with the multivitamin plus hot flash support daily z for quality sleep and an extra for focus and clarity. >> centrum powered by clinically said he'd ingredients. >> did you know taking xyz all at night relieves allergies while you sleep. you wake refreshed for more productive day give 24 hour continuous relief that does not fade he wise all take xyz off at night denture wearers can go wild with wildly adhesives, c-h bond denture sealed, gets strong all day. >> hold. thanks to gradual release technology. go wild c-bar, wildly adhesive your record label is taking off. >> but so is your sound engineer you need to hire a news indeed indeed, you do indeed instant match, instantly delivers quality candidates matching your job description visited d.com slash higher. >> why choose a sleep numbers smart bad? 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