breaking news welcome inside politics ammonia. >> raj, you in for dana bash for following breaking news. supreme court has upheld access to abortion pills like mifepristone, which have become the most common way to end a pregnancy it was a unanimous ruling in a big setback for the anti-abortion movement in the courts. first major decision on abortion, since it's overtone, roe v. wade two years ago the case was brought by a group of anti-abortion doctors. and trump appointed justice brett kavanaugh wrote that citizens and doctors do not have standing to sue simply because others are allowed to engage in certain activities, at least without the plaintiffs demonstrating how they'd be injured by the government's alleged under-regulation of others but this fight is far from over. and for that, i want to bring in cnn's senior supreme court analyst killed the scoping and jeff rosen, who's the president and ceo of the national constitution center. joan first, uh, you don't, you're in the room. you've just got back to the studio in time for this. so thanks for that. but this was a unanimous ruling from a court that's been very divided on abortion. so explain their thinking on this ruling and what does this mean for future cases about abortion pills? >> sure. my noise great to see you. it goes to the supreme court is still very divided on abortion, but this really wasn't an abortion case as it was decided. and i'll explain and i'm glad you referred to the drama in the courtroom and it was very dramatic when justice brett kavanaugh began his reading in the courtroom in one of the special guests seats was his wife, ashley kavanaugh, who we had seen, you know, obviously a lot of it back in 2018 and you referred to the fact that he was a trump appointee. any was but all three trump appointees in all nine justices signed this opinion. and that's because the key issue was who can even sue. as you mentioned, mine of this case was brought by a group of anti-abortion physicians who said that they had been injured by women's access to these medications. they said that sometimes they might have to in emergency room settings, perform abortion missions because of things that might have gone wrong with the pills. but brett kavanaugh with the unanimous supreme court behind him. went through each of their reasoning on why they should be able to sue rejected them out of hand, starting with the notion that some of these physicians said that they would have conscience? objection objections to ever perform an abortion. and justice kavanaugh said, but federal law already has a conscience clause that protects individuals from having to perform a procedure that would violate their moral or religious faith. so went through them methodically shut the door to any kind of challenge from these groups because they had no real injury. and i want to stress that even though this affects the fda policy and it was the fda's policy of expanding access to abortion, for example, allowing the medication to be taken at ten weeks and not just seven weeks allowing the medication to be obtained from male. but the justices did not endorse one way or another that policy. they just said, this, these groups could not sue and as i said, federal, courts from cases that should not be in federal courts that should rather be as justice kavanaugh said put before policymakers like the food and drug administration or congress. yeah that is a key question, right? >> the implications here and geoff given that this is a procedural ruling, can this come back to the court in could the decision be different the next time around? >> well, i suppose it's possible that if you've found people who are concretely injured by the change and making abortion more accessible. after 2016? >> it might come back, but this particular challenges is gonna be hard to bring back in the central ruling, as joan said, is to reject the idea of doctor standing. >> justice kavanaugh said the plaintiffs loose approach would allow any doctor or a health care provider to challenge any fda decision. yet all these examples, what if the epa ruled back admission standards? durde's could doctors say they need to spend more time with asthma patients basically, they were afraid of opening up the federal courts to any doctors who didn't like a particular government policy and could object to sue. it's really striking that this was unanimous, but but it's also does not tell us much about what could happen to this dysregulation in the future or to the other big abortion case that the supreme court is considering involving whether or not idaho can override a federal requirements that all women are treated in emergency rooms and ban abortions and all circumstances? yeah. and that idaho case, of course, because not ruled did on today could be rolled on. there's another dishes and day tomorrow we'll see if it's then or later in the term jeff and joan. thank you both so much for your analysis and expertise and i want to bring it here in the room to my great panel, reporters who are joining me now, new malika henderson, i've cnn m bloomberg seung min kim when the associated press and axiom says margaret tower nice to see you all in some ways, assess the politics of this because obviously abortion has been a dominant issue in recent cycles in the aftermath of the dobbs ruling republicans were fearful, even though they supported banning mifepristone and other apportion bill's effectively banning them. now that it's still access in the market, perhaps some of them may be breathing a sigh of relief. >> i'm sure many of them are doing that very thing, particularly donald trump as well. of course it's meeting with lawmakers today and apparently counseling them to have sort of softer approach to abortion. it would have been terrible for republicans if the supreme court had ruled a different way on this, i think as arguments were happening, there was a sense that it would likely go this way. so in some ways it's not really surprising. i think if you're democrats, you still have the same argument, which is who knows what the supreme court is going to do, who knows what republicans want to do with a woman's right to choose more broadly, we'll see what happens out of the idaho case, but i don't think this takes wind out of the sort of political sales of democrats when it comes to abortion to that point, joe biden put out a statement saying, quote, today's decision does not change the fact that the fight for reproductive freedom continues, attacks on a medication abortion are part of republican elected officials extreme and dangerous agenda to ban abortion nationwide. can that's still being effective argument for democrats in the aftermath of this ruling, there are certainly trying what i found really striking about president biden statement is that there's no there's no sense of relief with a decision. there's no applauding of the ruling. he's really trying to instill that urgency on the public that i'll host of other reproductive rights are still at stake that's what both president biden and his campaign really want to do it shortly after the ruling came out, a campaign official texts, it's saying we don't want voters, the public, the media to take away from the fat or, or to take away from today's ruling that mifepristone is somehow safe and their view, it is not. that's how they're going to try to motivate voters, particularly in these key swing states, where we've seeing abortion be such an effective political issue for the last two years and for them, their strategy today's really doesn't change much, so they're really going to keep pushing it. >> i just don't i don't think this takes abortion off the table as a as a really primary election issue. yes, the economy is gonna be the issue that touches everyone. but in turn, democrats numbers to turn out women voters, or to keep some women voters home. abortion will continue to be at. and this is, i think not just about messaging is not just about how do you message this is a fact that the fight over mifepristone will now move to the states and that the justices not only left the door open, but pave the way for that. and so for those who want to ban pills those super core does not saying you can never do that. they are saying you can't do it this way. the fight will move to individual states. and so if you are a woman for whom reproductive rights is an issue, or if you're just a person for whom that is an issue. i think in today's politics, it's true that no issue was ever resolved, right? but abortion is definitely never result. it's not there's no court decision that any court can make where the other side is going to be like, okay. this is now settled right? >> still have the same goal, which is to eliminate abortions you know, sort of say now, it's up to state. >> but if there had their way, they would significantly reduce the number of abortions nationwide. we've obviously seen a very severe restrictions and states like mississippi in idaho is gonna, is doing the same thing. and so i think as long as their core purpose remains, eliminating abortions, this is still an issue and speaking of which trump, behind closed doors today, talking house republicans will dive much more into that in the next segment, but abortion did come up and he talked to members about what he said being smart. i'm told by someone who was in the room about talking about this issue. yes. he said standby, your convictions, but the leave it up to the states and don't talk about this and he believes a politically damaging way. he recognizes the potency of this issue, even though he aimed three supreme court justices overturned roe v wade. it's donald trump has been dancing around this issue because he knows good to bow back on it, right? >> right. and we've seen this all throughout the primary campaign when a lot of his challengers were taking stances on a six-week a band, 12 week or endorsing some sort of a federal abortion ban that is something that at least for the longest time that he declined to do because on this, he knows where the politics are. he knows that the politics are against republicans. i found the counseling interesting singh because being smarter, the way that republicans have been trying to talk about and message it just hasn't worked because public sentiment is not on their side. if you look at polling after poling, they support the broader access to reproductive rights that roe had protected for 50 years. and i don't know how you the message your way out of that kind of public sentiment. >> and just again, remind viewers about what he has said. this is what he said back when he was campaigning in iowa, lead last year i believe in the three exceptions for rape, incest, and life of the mother. i believe in that without the exceptions it is very difficult to win elections, can't do it for just the election, but you have to follow your heart the same time to win elections, you have to have hard to win elections. that is pragmatic. >> boil down what it means to be a politician exactly. but that's not gonna be, uh, now for a lot of the folks on the right, there are groups like anti-abortion activists who are pushing for a national abortion ban, a wanted in the republican party platform this is something that he has to deal with. we've seen them all fall in line behind donald trump, pretty decisively and i actually don't think he's going to change as messaging to court those groups. i think those groups have made their bet and they're about is donald trump over joe biden. and that to the election is between right now. so what he's what donald trump is telling the republican party is if women around the country believed that you're going to take away their right to access an abortion at any at all times they're not going to vote elevate us. so you need to water down the message and play at state-by-state. and that's the not a mystery. that is the actual direction he has given. >> of course, the risk when you say it's up to the states is that you may owe some of the states more restrictive abortion laws like in florida or any other, any number of swing states. and that's of course what democrats will try to do. we'll see how it plays out. >> alright, coming up, the justice department is filled with quote, dirty, no good and why would taylor swift endorsed this dope that's exactly what some of what donald trump said behind closed doors. this morning with house republicans, you'll want to hear what else came up the most anticipated moment of this lecture the stakes couldn't be higher. >> the president and the former president, one stage moderated by jake tapper and dana bash, the cnn presidential debate thursday, june 27th, nine live on cnn and streaming on max have heart failure with unresolved symptoms. >> it may be time to see the bigger picture heart failure and seemingly unrelated symptoms like carpal tunnel syndrome shortness of breath and irregular heartbeat could be something more serious called att rcn are rare, under-diagnosed disease that worsens over time. it sounds like you call your cardiologist and ask about attr san three body serie a city client uses city's financial expertise to help drive its growth and keep its supply chain moving some more at parents can get everything they need, right when they need it. >> keeping more pets and families happy for the love of moving our clients forward, for the love of progress everywhere. >> but the seed, brasidas, lebanon allen beginning, you love your bike. we do two. that's why we're americans number what motorcycle insurer. >> but do you have to wedge it into everything? 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he was joking maybe a nice speaker, johnson. and i said and he said, okay, be nice to him and i nodded my head and obviously, manu, we have covered the saga of marjorie taylor greene trying to get rid of speaker mike johnson, calling for a motion to vacate, causing so much turmoil in their house republican conference. >> of course, she they're making light of it saying that donald trump sort of poked fun at the situation. he did talk a little bit about abortion during this meeting, making clear to members that they shouldn't be afraid of the issue that this is now a state's issue, something that republicans have been fighting for an arguing about for a long time now, but it was a little light on policy and a lot larger on his revenge tour up here this morning yeah. >> something tells me that marjorie taylor greene will not be taken. donald trump's advice about being nice to mike johnson. >> all right. lauren vox and capitol hill. thanks for that. my great panels back so just a little bit more about what he said inside the room. we talked about steve scalise please, after the 2017 congressional baseball shooting, he said when he saw him in the hospital, he said steve shows great courage. i saw him in hospital. >> i can tell your wife really loves you, steve, because some wives wives wouldn't care. he also as laura said, which not sure. he also went after his lower noted david validate you who is more than ten republicans, who voted to impeach donald trump's that i never loved them. of course, they need valid day or to win in november, he went after some of the other impeached. years, as he called them, they're no longer members of congress one thing he said he called the way when i've talked about nancy pelosi and some odd comments about her saying that her daughter wants told him that he nancy would have had a great romance in another life, and i manually post his daughter, put out a statement saying that was a lie your reaction, margaret not everyday. >> yeah it sounds like classic everything. >> i think we're all going to be paying a lot of attention to the things that donald trump says today in his relationships with lawmakers and him trying to sort of rally the troops around him and remind everyone who