Communicated demon false statements for former President Trump and the Trump Campaign in connection with trumps failed effort at reelection in 2020. They concluded what he did is a threat to the Public Interest which is why he has been suspended from the practice of law. It is not easy to have your license suspended this way. This all came about after the bar received multiple complaints conducted investigation and came to this result. But were actually expected to see mr. Giuliani in a few hours. He is due to appear in Federal Court here In Washington d. C. To defend against a Defamation Suit brought by dominion voting systems. We may have the chance to ask him to react. He first joined the bar in 1969. Hes had a lengthy legal career. He was in the Justice Department for a while. He was the mayor of new york. And then he has been representing former President Trump in various legal for various legal issues. This is really a pretty stunning way to cap off what historically has been a pretty glittering career. Over the past several years, he has increasingly had more and more legal issues in addition to the Defamation Suit, the suspension, and also an ongoing federal investigation in new york. Paula, thank you so much for that report. I want to bring in my panel who is here with me, and i want to start with abbey and read Something Else in the do you mean. This is about rudy giuliani, but its even more so about the big lie. So this document says one only has to look at the ongoing present public discord over the 2020 election which erupted into violence insurrection and death on january 6th, 2021, at the u. S. Capitol to understand the extent of the damage that can be done when the public is misled by false information about the elections. That is pretty damning and very accurate. 100 accurate. There are consequences to the lies. For so many months the president and his allies among chief among them, giuliani, have been lying with impunity about all kinds of things and doing so in legal proceedings, you have to wonder is there any sort of recourse for that . I mean, can someone say theyre a lawyer, practice law in this country, while also doing something that is provably false . I think this court ruling makes that clear that there are consequences for giuliani and probably for others as well. Theres there are Defamation Cases and real damage that was done. Not just to lives but also to livelihoods for the companies that were slandered, frankly, by a web of conspiracies and lies that were made up by out of whole cloth by the president and his allies. I think for trumps allies especially, you have to wonder whether theyre sitting there now thinking how far am i willing to go to push trumps lies about the election. Especially the guys running in higher office. Are you willing to lose your license, your twitter account In The Name Of the lies the president , the former president has spread . Maybe theyll be thinking twice now seeing there are rep ur cushions. And there are Federal Courts that are starting to sentence some of these in the january 6th riot. And a judge appointed by Ronald Reagan was a real pain in the butt to bill clintons administration, yesterday singled out the Congressional Republicans who are trying to rewrite the january 6th history. He said, i dont know what planet they were on, the republicans who are trying to defend this. And he said that that attack was, quote, intended to halt the functioning of government. The whole legal system is starting to shift. I think whats stunning is when you cover trump and as a lot of us have, you realize that people around him think that theyre untoechable. They start to think that more and more. The more theyre in his inner circle. Its something that happens with people in the white house, on capitol hill. His attorneys, think they can do or say whatever they want and there are no consequences for what they say and what they do. This is showing thats not true. But also, just to step back, there are so many crazy things that happened. Its easy to not be surprise bid Something Like this happening. This is incredible. Rudy giuliani has been a barred attorney for decades. He was the mayor of new york through 9 11 who helped steer the city out of that. To see the rise in that way and the fall in this way is amazing that the former president s, former attorney, no longer can represent his clients in a court of law, now doesnt have his law license is incredible. Yeah. Its incredible, but lets be honest. This is kind of like the straw that broke the camels back. Rudy giuliani has been doing unethical things on behalf of client donald trump for a long time. So much so that trump was impeached twice over these kinds of shenanigans. I also want to say to your point, pk, about republicans on capitol hill, i think that theres a sentiment among some republicans, people like ted cruz and rand paul and others, who kind of, like, flirt you know, congressmen who flirt on the line and say there were irregularities. We dont think that Election Officials should have been able to chaj the rules. Those are all euphemisms for the broader lie framework that all of this is sitting on top of. Its not okay to just say oh, well, there were irregularities and we have questions. The questions are all based on the lie that giuliani just got disbarred for. And the most important thing is, well, one of the most important things is the legal realm were talking about. But then its the political realm. You guys walked the halls of Congress Every day. Do you think that the members who are propagating the big lie are going to care that there is a real life consequence if you are someone like giuliani . Will that trickle down to people who rely on voters and not the court of law . Yeah. I think theyre probably going to look at this, dana, and just say well, thats because he was playing a lawyer. He was playing the role of lawyer. Were over here in politics, and we get to do lies and distortions for a living, and theres no legal bar that says youve crossed a line. You only have your voters who are youre responsive to. I mean, well see. The House Republican conference continues to be very much in the former president s camp. They are the Senate Republican conference is different. They are there are 11 of them down at the white house right now meeting with President Biden. Theyre talking about bipartisanship. The House Republicans, theyre still right there with the former president. Okay. Everybody stand by. We want to get down to florida in miami this hour, a Human Tragedy happening in realtime. Surf side florida, that is specifically where this happened. A Condo Building disend grated. We saw grainy Surveillance Cameras capture the moment of collapse on video. We want the warn the footage is disturbing. It is silence, but it is kind of hard to believe that this is actually happening. And that it was an accident, not something that we see when buildings are intentionally brought down. Its just hard to wrap your mind around. One area official says 51 people are unaccounted for. We want to underscore there is more unknown at this hour than known about the human toll, and why this building folded on itself in the first place. The collapse killed at least one and rescuers are racing to pull people in the wreckage. Already teams have pulled 35 people from under the concrete, and were hearing remarkable stories from the rubble. I could hear somebody yelling, and screaming. It was a little boy. Couldnt have been more than his preteens. So then i saw an arm sticking out of the wreckage, and he was scream can go you see me . He was screaming dont leave me. Dont leave me. Also accounts of near misses from inside the building. One resident says the collapse almost came for him. When we walked out of our apartment and we were going to see how we were going to get out of the apartment, i looked down the hallway, and its a very long hallway, probably 100 yards, 75 yards. And there was nothing there. It was just a pile of dust and rubble. I want to bring in gregg, the fema director for eight years through joplin and tornadoes across the country, Hurricane Sandy and more before that. Craig, you were emergency and management director in florida for eight years. Thank you so much for coming on. The first question is when you see this, particularly the graphic video that i just showed, the Surveillance Video of the collapse, what does it tell you at first blush . This is going to be a very complex rescue and recovery operation. Fortunately, Miami Dade County has one of femas Urban Search And Rescue teams. This is one of our premier rescue teams that are designed and build for these types of rescues. And in this event they are activated locally. So as tragic as this is, you have some of the besttrained teams in the world operating there on that site right now. Well, that is good news. More than 80 fire and medical units are aiding the search. So describe to us as somebody who has led efforts like this and larger than this, what an organization like this entails. This is going to be a long response recovery. Because the building is not stable, and a lot of people say why arent they in there digging in there, getting people out. You have to understand the building itself is no longer safe and more of the building can collapse. Part of what the responders are having to do is secure and stabilize the building from the inside while they look for survivors or using dogs, drones and technology, and then they have to have a plan of how to get to the folks to do that. This is not going to be over in hours. This will take days, and its an extremely dangerous operation. Thats why the teams are so critical to be trained and equipped for just this type of rescue. Miami dade county commissioner said that 51 people still remain unaccounted for. Talk about the survival that is possible in the kind of rubble we are looking at in the pictures right now. Well, i think we cant give people false hope. First, one of the 51 people in the building thats still being searched. People could be on vacation. They could be out of the area. What we have seen in these types of collapses is if there are spaces and voids that are created as the structure comes down, they have found survivors. We saw this in the hurricanes of in florida. We saw this during the haiti response. So those types of survivals, theyre still possible. When does it go from search and rescue to recovery . You know, ive always said we keep looking. And that theres a point where once weve established theres no possible survivors, theyll start bringing in more equipment, trying to remove the layers to get to the deceased. But its not a bright line you paint, because you just dont want to give up hope. But there wont be a point where it will be necessary to bring in heavier equipment to start removing debris. Thats generally when the acknowledgment is. Theres not likely any more chance of survival. So theres less risk if theres a disturbance in the pile that a survivor may be injured, and theyll move toward trying to locate and remove the people that weve lost. So the surf said mayor said hes worried about the Safety Concerns right now. Hes worried about the other part of the building. The other tower collapsing. So what is the danger right now for those trying to go in and rescue anybody they can possibly find . This is a very high risk rescue operation. Thats why the teams are trained. They have Structural Engineers that are part of the team that are assessing the building. Making determinations one area. What needs to be done to make the rest of the building safe. Weve had to in cases build all kinds of supporting mechanisms just to allow the teams to operate safely. Any time you have this happen, the Structural Integrity of the building is in question. We still dont know why this happened. And so theyll be in there with the engineers and do the assessments. Theyre pushing as hard as they can to get to people. And its the rainy season. Were going to get Lightning Storms and heavy rains. All these things are going to compound the response efforts. Yeah. Sure is. In fact c theyre worried a storm is come right now. We saw rain earlier. Craig, thank you. 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Far less than President Biden had wanted, and far less even more so than progressives say they are willing to accept. Back with our panel to give a little more meat on the bone. As i said, overall, the cost is 959 billion new spending which is a key. 559 billion. And what were talking about is traditional infrastructure. Were talking about roads. Were talking about broadband internet. Were talking about electric utilities, bridges, things of that nature. So the question is what is going to happen out of this meeting . You know, as we were talking about in the break, kaitlyn, the president likely wouldnt call them down at this stage in the game unless he was poised to bless this barring anything unexpected. Thats the you sunderstandin. He doesnt typically emplblow u meetings in a way you dont expect. It was like were not going to invite them for a meeting that doesnt turn into anything. Well wait until what looks like a breakthrough agreement. They are meeting with President Biden. We saw the lawmakers leaving. The question is not just are they going to get the explicit endorsement of the white house. The white house knows whats in this. They were in the meetings all day yesterday on capitol hill. This idea that biden is not on the same team as or same page as his team is not the case. The question is what happens after this . And what does this look like when it comes to timing once they have the finalization of how theyre paying for this and what it looks like. We dont yet know the exact mechanisms. We just have a general idea. And then, of course, whether or not, how the rest of the caucus responds. Not only do they have to go to the more conservative members but the progressive faction going against what its shaping up to look like. A lot of questions. This is a big deal. It is. And you mentioned the progressives. So for people who are not completely immersed in the minutia of this. I cant imagine why youre not. Whats going on right now is progressives are saying okay, well go for this bipartisan deal as long as you give us an ironclad promise there will later be a likely democrats only deal which will go much further and go to some of their really key priorities, Human Infrastructure as the president likes to call it. Child care, elderly care. Chuck schumer yesterday said one has to go with the other. But heres what joe manchin said about the pairing these two together. Say one is being held hostage, the other doesnt seem