for a criminal indictments, four criminal trials barreling towards him. and now the former president is openly threatening to weaponize the justice department against his political opponents if he takes back the white house. congressman jamie raskin is here with his reaction, and he's coming up first. plus, special counsel jack smith unveils a big clue about how he plans to prosecute his case. as trump's lawyers ask for his federal trial to be televised. the law firm of andrew weissmann and niel cattiel is here to weigh in on all of it. also today, resounding victories for democrats and crucial races all across the country, as republican culture wars fall completely flat. we'll talk about what it means for 2024 and beyond. and later, a trip to the forum, a bike ride through georgia with raphael warnock. we talk about the fight for democracy, the former president, and balancing his life as a pastor with his life as a united states senator. ♪ ♪ ♪ after a long stretch of dark political predictions for democrats, and a lot of freaking out over poll numbers, things did start to feel a little bit better this week. democratic governor was reelected in kentucky, democrats swept control of the virginia legislature, which most people were not predicting. and the people of ohio turned out in droves to protect abortion rights in their state. you have to find yourself thinking, all right. maybe things aren't so bad. maybe i shouldn't be so terrified about the safety of democracy and my rights after all. the forces of good are winning out in the end. i'm going to tune this all out for a while, i have other things to worry about. if that's how your feeling, i kind of get it. and there are some things to feel relieved about. but at the same time, the threat of a second trump term is still very real. and the things he is saying right now are some of the most concerning things we have ever heard him say. so it's important for everyone to really start listening. >> if i happen to be president and i see somebody who's doing well and beating me very badly, i say go down and indict them, mostly what that would be, they would be out of business. they'd be out. they'd be out of the election. >> if they're beating me, go down and indict them. trump is forecasting that in the second term he will wield power however he chooses. unconstrained by the rule of law. this is some truly scary authoritarian banana republic type stuff, and we should hear it that way. just yesterday, he took to truth social to imply that democrats, or any political opponents, are the greatest threat to america and need to be rooted out like vermin. vermin is the word he used there. it's not just rhetoric. remember the washington post reported just last week about specific plans trump and his allies have drafted to put his words into action. on top of planning to launch investigations into people who dare to critique him, or disagree with him during this time in office. including people that work for him. his team has also started to map out plans to invoke the insurrection act on his first day in office. which basically would allow him to dispatch the military against civil demonstrations. think about how crazy that is. and in the same interview, he also defended his family separation policy at the border. and new reporting from the new york times this weekend confirms he also has plans for sweeping rates of undocumented immigrants, mass deportations, and the creation of giant camps. he wants to restate the muslim ban, something he also repeated this weekend. and when he was asked about it this week, about how the u.s. can stop the killing of innocent people in the israel-hamas war, he basically said we should just let it all play out. and yet, the hand wringing and cocktail party speculation about an alternative to joe biden is continuing. will continue. guess what? joe biden isn't perfect. no candidate is, by the way. but we have to understand what the alternative is here. if elected to a second term, donald trump would prosecute anyone he deems an enemy. unleash troops on protesters, and essentially unravel the rule of law as we know it. and this time, he plans to line his administration with people who will actually will help him to it. but sure, joe biden is three years older and occasionally trips over things. there's a lot to be concerned about right now when it comes to a second trump term. the speeches are getting much more disturbing, and much more unhinged, and we should all hear it that way. it's also important to talk about all of this, and important to call it out. but there is nothing more important than digging into his actual plans. the silver lining here is that trump is warning us here. with his own voice, with a microphone on and a camera rolling. he is telling us exactly what he plans to do, and we all just need to listen. joining me now is congressman jamie raskin, he led the second impeachment trial of donald trump, and he's now the ranking democrat on the house oversight committee. you have thought a lot about donald trump, and you have studied him a lot, you've been so involved in holding him accountable. when he said this week, if they're beating me, go down and indict them. some of the pronouncements he's made over the weekend, i've heard that as kind of his authoritarian impulses getting worse. how do you hear them? >> the role of the government in his view is to advance his political fortunes and destroy his political enemies. so what would a second term look like? it would look a lot like vladimir putin in russia. it would look a lot like viktor orban in hungary, illiberal democracy. meaning democracy without rights, or liberties, or respect for the due process has, the rule of law. in fact, there's not much democracy left to it, because their position is that they don't accept the integrity of any election where they lose. and that is a hallmark of an authoritarian party. they don't accept elections that don't go their way, they refused to disavow political violence, they embrace political violence for an instrument for taking power, and everything flows from the will of a charismatic politician. and that is donald trump. so we are clearly headed into a completely different form of government than any of us would recognize, as continuous with the past. right-wing authoritarian governments, in league with putin, xi jinping, orban, bolsonaro -- >> putin and xi jinping, those are some serious authoritarian dictators out there. it sounds like you're saying people should look at, if they're wondering what a second trump term would look like. >> those are the people that donald trump and his family do business with. remember, his son-in-law brought back two billion dollars from saudi arabia, from mohammed bin salman. he pocketed that after four years of rendering favors to saudi arabia, including covering up the assassination and dismemberment, drawing and quarter-ing of saudi american journalists. for the washington post, and rendering all sorts of favors to saudi arabia. multiply that times every authoritarian despot on earth, and that's what we're getting with donald trump, because they've made relationships with every autocratic, plutocratic, kleptocratic regime on earth. and they don't pretend to have any program for the american people. it's just about restoring donald trump's power. they literally didn't have a platform that they adopted last time around, which tells you what? their platform is whatever donald trump dictates to them on any particular day. and we see our colleagues in congress just taking orders from donald trump on everything from shutting down the government, to impeaching joe biden for nothing. >> i do want to ask you about one of the specific things. there was some reporting over this weekend in the new york times over his immigration plans. this isn't surprising given what he's done in the past, but it described it as preparing to round up undocumented people already in the united states on a vast scale, and detain them in sprawling camps while they wait to be expelled. there are a lot of things in history that reminds me of. what did you think of when you read that story? >> of course, there's been an anti immigrant impulse in america going back to the beginning, with the alien and sedition acts, and the attempts to politicize and demonized foreigners to the country. of course, the rounding up of japanese americans during world war ii. so he wants to pick up on that strain, and that is a purely authoritarian program. i mean, they really have two programs. one is that, and the other is to pass what mike johnson wants, a national ban on abortion rights for american women, with no exceptions for rape or incest. they understand how deeply unpopular that is, so they're trying to downplay that for now. the cats got their tongue, they don't want to talk about it. but of course, that will rise to the top the moment they think they can get it passed. >> let me ask you about speaker mike johnson, who you know pretty well, it sounds like. he did release his two step plan to keep the government open yesterday. no deep spending cuts, which some of the right-wing want. but no funding for israel and ukraine. i haven't seen democratic leadership make a pronouncement about what they think of it. the white house has kind of criticized it. what do you make of it? is this something that could possibly be -- does it have any legs? >> we haven't been able to study that new republican plan yet, and obviously you want to do everything in our power to keep the government open. so we're serving the american people. the problem within the republican caucus is that they're caught in a double bind in two directions. if they go to try to fund each appropriation bill separately, then the maga right starts pasting all of this extreme right-wing graffiti on it. so there's antiabortion stuff, there's anti lgbtq stuff, there's anti dei stuff. all that. and then there's about a dozen republicans that can't vote for that because they're in biden districts and they won't go wrong with it. >> 18 of them. >> they're basically signing their own political defeat by doing that. however, if they go for a clean continuing resolution, which is clearly the way to do it, then you get chip roy and the freedom caucus saying no, this doesn't create the slashing reductions and expenditures that we want whenever a democrat's president. they don't look for that when donald trump was president, and he of course he created record deficits and was spending like a drunken sailor. >> you are not running the republican caucus, we only have five days here. should the public be preparing for a shutdown? >> well, the best hope is that they want to give their new guy, mike johnson, some reprieve. i mean, they have put someone in who they think appeals to the common denominator within the caucus, which is a kind of theocratic agenda. and some of them are saying, well, he's like the backup quarterback who comes in in the fourth quarter, so don't blame him for everything that's happened, give him a break here and go with what he wants. but the plan seems strange to me, but i will reserve judgment on it. we're trying to operate with unity in our caucus, behind hakeem jeffries and our leadership, because it's complicated enough with the republicans falling apart on a weekly or daily basis. so if it's something that our leadership thinks they can work with, it's something that i imagine most democrats will say they'll swallow for now. >> we'll see, it could be a fight. i'll ask you about mike johnson, because you're a constitutional scholar. he is somebody who believes the bible comes first over the constitution. i want to be clear, this is not about being a person of faith. there are many people of faith in congress, democrats and republicans. but saying that the bible comes first over the constitution, how problematic is that? second in line for the presidency? >> let's start with this. when we take our oath of office, we put our hand on the bible and we swear to uphold the constitution, we don't put our hand on the constitution and swear to uphold the bible. the constitution is the governing document of the country, and we of course have a multiplicity of fates and people can choose their faith, or no faith at all. and that's what jefferson and adams and madison fought for, with the american revolution and the declaration and the constitution. i mean, the great breakthrough of the american constitution was to rebel against centuries of religious conflict. the wars between the catholics and the protestants, and inquisition, and crusade, and witchcraft trials and all of that. they said we want to put government on a secular principle, which is no establishment of religion, no religious test for public office, and free exercise. everybody can worship exactly as he or she pleases. but i've got colleagues who get up, one got up not long ago and said the moral downfall was in 1962 where the supreme court banned prayer in public schools, and i had to remind him, no, the supreme court never banned prayer in the public schools. as long as there are pop math quizzes, there will be prayer in the public schools. all the supreme court said in that case is that the government can't compel you to pray according to a script that the government writes. and that case was from new york, the suit was brought by catholic families, saying that there was a protestant prayer that was being imposed on everybody. and of course, that's the great argument, or one of the great arguments for the separation of church and state, and the no establishment of religion. what happens is one church gets control of the governmental process, and then imposes its theological orthodoxy and discipline on everybody else. >> and that's why it's in place. never has there been a greater value for constitutional expertise, so thank you so much for bringing it to us, and for breaking down so many issues with us. congressman, thank you for joining me this morning. >> my pleasure. >> coming up after a week in which he turned a new york courtroom into a surface, donald trump is now asking for his federal trial to be televised. -- join me with their reaction, after the break. we'll be right back. ...to not only enhance the fan experience, but to advance how the game is played. now's the time to see what america's largest 5g network can do for your business. with the freestyle libre 2 system know your glucose level and where it's headed without fingersticks. manage your diabetes with more confidence and lower your a1c. it's covered by medicare for those who qualify. ask your doctor about the freestyle libre 2 system. detect this: living with hiv, i learned that i can stay undetectable with fewer medicines. that's why i switched to dovato. dovato is a complete hiv treatment for some adults. no other complete hiv pill uses fewer medicines to help keep you undetectable than dovato. detect this: most hiv pills contain 3 or 4 medicines. dovato is as effective with just 2. if you have hepatitis b, don't stop dovato without talking to your doctor. don't take dovato if you're allergic to its ingredients or taking dofetilide. this can cause serious or life-threatening side effects. if you have a rash or allergic reaction symptoms, stop dovato and get medical help right away. serious or life-threatening lactic acid buildup and liver problems can occur. tell your doctor if you have kidney or liver problems or if you are pregnant, breastfeeding, or considering pregnancy. dovato may harm an unborn baby. most common side effects are headache, nausea, diarrhea, trouble sleeping, tiredness, and anxiety. detect this: i stay undetectable with fewer medicines. ask your doctor about switching to dovato. ♪ students... students of any age, from anywhere. students in a new kind of classroom. ♪ using our technology to power different ways of learning. ♪ harnessing ai to plant new beginnings. ♪ so when minds grow, opportunities follow. ♪ limu emu & doug ♪ [bell ringing] and doug says, “you can customize and save hundreds on car insurance with liberty mutual.” he hits his mark —center stage— and is crushed by a baby grand piano. are you replacing me? 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[limu emu squawks.] only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ outbursts in a new york courtroom this week were shocking, but not exactly surprising. and of course, by behaving in such an outrageous way he is making a political calculation. not exactly a legal one. now, trump's defense team says they want to put that kind of behavior on full display in his upcoming federal trial in washington d. c.. and in a filing late friday, his lawyers argue that cameras should be allowed inside the courtroom. to capture the proceedings for a television audience. this is something that a range of news organizations, including msnbc's parent company are calling for. but the trump team is clearly making this request for a much different reason. joining me now is our in-house law firm, neil -- is the former acting solicitor general, andrew weissmann is the formal council to the fbi, and as senior member of special counsel mueller's team. let me start with you, because you wrote in favor of cameras in the courtroom. you argued for this in an august op-ed, saying the reward outweighs the risk. but we did kind of see how this would be this week. trump tried to turn the courtroom into a circus, and there weren't even cameras in there. so did anything about that change your view, or how you see this? >> no, so first of all, john, happy de valle to you and to all of our viewers. and of course, joe wally is the festival of lights, and the idea of light is what motivated that up at. the idea that this is the american peoples courtroom. new taxpayers pay for this trial, and you should be able to see it in bright lights, and that is part and parcel of our democracy. the fact that donald trump has -- is going to act in as you put it a circus light fashion, that's what donald trump does. whether there's cameras in the courtroom or not, it's going to be a circus every day of every week. the judge will of course exert some rain over that, but i don't think that's a reason not to let the american public see exactly what's happening. and i know that there is some speculation that trump doesn't really mean it. that he doesn't mean it. he filed this thing, but he didn't even have a single legal citation to any law or rules or anything like that in his filing, asking for cameras in the room. but that slick part and parcel of donald trump's legal filings generally. they're very light on law if any at all, and donald trump generally wants this. the most dangerous place in washington d. c. is the space between donald trump and a camera. so of course he wants this. i think the important thing is this trial be televised, so that the american public can see it, or at a minimum, live audio in realtime. that's what the u.s. supreme court has done ever since covid, i do that a lot with them. and we should at least be able to hear the trial, and not be relegated to third hand news accounts. >> happy diwali to you as well, wonderful celebration. andrew, let me go to you, because it's no surprise that a former reality tv personality would want this kind of exposure. maybe audio is an interesting option, i'd love to know what you think of that. but what do you think his motivation is in all of this? >> i think he knows that in federal criminal cases, that the district judge has no leeway here on her own, to order this. this is why about ten days ago, when he asked his position, he told the government and they represented it to the courts that he was agnostic, he was not in favor of this. and when the government put its grief in saying that it's not legal for a federal district judge to order cameras in the courtroom, he then said, of course, i want it, so he can claim that he was all for transparency, that it's the government and the judge who are keeping this from the public. so i think it is a lot of posturing. i'm not disagreeing with neil that he may want to, but the way he positioned this is so that he can complain when it's not done. in terms of merits, if the were no law out there that forbade having cameras, i completely agree with neil. i think that the benefits far outweigh the negatives. there are negatives. but here is the public seeing, this i think it's paramount, but i don't think it's legally possible. i think neil's idea of having audio is also a. sort of next best plan be good substitute. and we'll see whether judge chutkan goes for any of that, but i think it's going to be very difficult for her to do it under the current rules. >> neil, go into another such of court filings this week. jackson has made clear that the insurrection will play a role in his election conspiracy case against. trump here's how political put it. quote, smith is casting trump as one of the 1200 plus defendants who have already been charged. what do you make of the strategy? what does it tell us about his approach? >> so, smith is responding to four different filings by donald trump that were all over the map. i mean, i describe them on monday as not just throwing spaghetti at the wall, but throwing penne, for follow-up, or quiet, and every other pasta possible. what jack smith did in those filings in response was basically tear them apart. and part of his strategy is to use exactly that quote you're using, and outline what his case is at trial, which he says is going to look a lot like the january 6th committee presentation. using insurrection tests, who actually invaded the capitol and said the i was doing this because of donald trump. i was following donald trump. and i think anyone who saw that presentation in the 16 committee knows that is an incredibly emotionally powerful, logically powerful presentation. >> andrew, very quickly, before we let you guys go back to your sunday lives, the defense is going to present this week in new york. what are you watching, and what should we expect? >> in new york, they're going to be focusing on two elements that's the state needs to prove, and that is intent, and materiality. so you're going to hear a lot about reliance on accountants, reliance on lawyers, on how the banks didn't really care about what was represented to them, because they were going to do this deal anyway, and that the loan is all paid off. just briefly on the problem with the reliance on accountants is it has it exactly backwards. the accountants, under their agreements, were entitled to get accurate and fair and candid information from the trumps and the trump organization. not the reverse. if you feed them information that is wrong, you can expect their opinions to not be something you can rely on. so it will be an interesting couple of weeks that we can expect to see. >> we will keep talking about it with our in-house law firm. andrew weissmann and neil kathy, elle thank you always for joining me. up next, we take on the winners but also the losers of elections all across the country this week. i'm looking at you, glenn youngkin. later, -- senator raphael warnock. if you are wondering what kind of music he listens to, you are in luck. we are back after this. ter this care. i go to spin classes with my coworkers. good for you, shingles doesn't care. because no matter how healthy you feel, your risk of shingles sharply increases after age 50. but shingrix protects. proven over 90% effective, shingrix is a vaccine used to prevent shingles in adults 50 years and older. shingrix does not protect everyone and is not for those with severe allergic reactions to its ingredients or to a previous dose. an increased risk of guillain-barré syndrome was observed after getting shingrix. fainting can also happen. the most common side effects are pain, redness, and swelling at the injection site, muscle pain, tiredness, headache, shivering, fever, and upset stomach. shingles doesn't care but, shingrix protects. shingrix is now zero dollars for almost everyone. ask your doctor about shingrix today. i think i'm ready for this. heck ya! with e*trade you're ready for anything. marriage. kids. college. kids moving back in after college. ♪ here's to getting financially ready for anything! and here's to being single and ready to mingle. who's ready to cha-cha?! 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glenn youngkin pulled off his surprise gubernatorial victory in a state that joe biden had won by ten points just the year before. i remember this well. he successfully did it by tapping into the frustration and anger that was evident across the country, at school board meetings and in the wake of the covid-19 pandemic school closures, parents were mad, they want to their kids in school. in that election, youngkin successfully made parents rights a large umbrella issue that attracted suburban voters. there was endless punditry, endless, about how the youngkin team had clocked -- cracked a winning coach for republicans, youngkin was the next great hope. but fast forward to this week, and it's clear that he took the wrong lesson away from that surprise victory. it turns out digging deeper into culture wars, talking about indoctrination, targeting lgbtq+ kids, and pulling books off the shelves or threatening to do that, is it a long term winning strategy. take for example when virginia state senate race, where the democratic challenger is a former high school teacher who defeated the republican incumbent. and in this race, the teacher won by pointing to the republican incumbents support for a law that was cited by some school districts as a basis for pulling books off the shelves. for book banning, essentially. look at danica roem's victory, as the first transgender state senator -- she defended a republican opponent who campaigned on banning transgender athletes from high school sports. that was the basis of the campaign. or look at any number of school board races. in 2021, for example, this county made national headlines over school board protests. you probably remember this. but this week, just two plus years later, and liberal-leaning candidates took a six seat majority on the ninth seat school board. yeah, what we saw this week was a win for abortion rights, and not just in virginia, around the country as well. and a loss, though, for the right-wing's culture war agenda. the results we saw this week remind me of this line from glenn youngkin's strategist after his win back in 2021. he said that democrats were, quote, talking past the voters. talking to their own base. that sounds familiar, doesn't it? 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>> i wanted to ask, you mentioned al-quds hospital, which the reports are it is unable to function at this point in time. is that correct in what you have seen on the ground as well? >> yes. the last time we were trying to get to the al-quds hospital carrying also humanitarian aid, including medical supplies for the hospitals to continue operating and complete collapse, it was impossible to get to the al-quds hospital because all the roads leading to it were completely destroyed. our own team was caught in fire -- to have three trucks were damaged and more drivers were injured. we had to evacuate, rather miraculously, and we arrived at sheba hospital, where we saw thousands of internally displaced families. we managed to deliver four of five trucks. we had to abandon more trucks -- we had to abandon one of the trucks with what was on board. we also at the same time, after we deliver the trucks, we escorted six ambulances carrying a number of casualties to drive all the way to -- we were walking on the main road. the same street where you are seeing and you have footage of thousands of civilians walking on foot, crossing the valley to reach the south. we managed to get to the rafah crossing and get some of the injured receiving treatment in gaza. this is an example of how we are currently operating in absence of absolute safety, which hampers our operations and our ability to get the aid to the people. just today, i was with a team trying to get blankets, -- hygiene kits for families who are lucky enough to have a shelter, despite the very harsh conditions, the absence of water and the lack of hygiene. it was spraying rain, it's getting cold at night, especially. there are still yet thousands of families, especially those recently crossing to the south of the strip who have absolutely no idea where they are going to spend the night or where they can get food to feed their children, babies. i've seen some of them while we were trying to get in the gaza hospital the other day. we received fire. there were babies that were actually carried by their brothers who are also children. they were afraid of crying out loud. they were afraid of getting shot out. they were asking us, do you have? food do you have water? if there is still any place that we can go, to any shelters for us? jen waycross? tens of questions that my team could not answer, it was hard to answer because a war zone now. any effort that would lead to make these peoples lives a little bit easier is welcome, we welcome all the persons that allow the humanitarian aid into gaza, but it's not enough. sustainable aid must be allowed into the gaza strip safely. that would allow the humanitarian teams to get this aid to the thousands, hundreds of thousands of people inside hospitals, inside shelters, who are still wandering without shelters, without any roofs on their heads, to get that aid to them safely and securely. this is life-saving, literally, by all means. >> it sounds like you mentioned it a couple of times really the lack of water and the lack of water access, which i think it is so important for people to understand and hear that. before i let you go, i also want to ask you about al-shifa hospital. one of the calls has been for evacuation. this has been mentioned. but that seems extremely difficult given the status of patients, of babies. can you just explain to us in the limited time we have left at realities there and why that is so difficult to make that happen and safe people from the hospital? >> yes. i will start with water. first potable water is a very rare occurrence. you cannot find, some people in gaza actually had to go get seawater and some sugar to it so that they can drink it. we have witnessed that. four hospitals, before they situation has become extremely dire now in the hospitals. we've managed to visit some of the hospitals in northern gaza and gaza city in the south. and we have seen, i could see through operation s that the doors are open. and more than two or three casualties arebeing operated on at the same time, because there is no space and limited capacity that the staff has. they need to save as many lives as possible. at the same time, there were tens of casualties rushed into the emergency rooms. at the same hospitals, and there were, like, thousands of people inside and outside without hygiene. there is no space for women and children inside these hospitals. people who went to the hospital are running from that. they wanted a safe haven, a sanctuary. over the past few days, unfortunately, we have witnessed that some of these hospitals were targeted. now it is clear hospitals enjoy special protections under humanitarian law, and any military operations around hospitals must consider the presence of civilians, medical staff who are all protected by international humanitarian law. what is going on must opt immediately because if it doesn't, simply, we will witness more people who lose their lives and more babies who are wounded. there is no one left in their families to take care of them. >> thank you for everything you do. please stay safe. thank you for joining us this afternoon. we will be right back after a quick break. k break. he hits his mark —center stage—and is crushed by a baby grand piano. you're replacing me? 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and important then farming? and making sure that we sustain the american farm and as it sustains the american family. when i got elected to the senate, i was very clear i wanted to serve on the agriculture committee. i'm having a lot of fun learning a whole lot of the process. >> i bet you are. people often think of agriculture something for the midwest and kind of old, white conservatives in red states. it's clearly not. that >> farming is for everybody, right? we all have to eat. it is tough business. the margins are very narrow. and so, i've been working on the farm bill to do everything i can, along with my colleagues to sustain farmer as they support all of us. >> i know you have a meeting with religious leaders. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> so senator, what a beautiful place we are in. >> it's beautiful. >> how often are you bike riding these days? >> not enough. [laughter] not as much as i would like. >> you probably don't have a lot of free time. >> sometimes i have a meeting going. >> do you? i was going to ask you. do you listen to music while you bike? >> yeah. >> do you put in your ears? do you listen to it? >> yeah, i put my pardon. often listening to some hip-hop. >> i was going to ask you. >> kind of keeps me moving. [laughter] >> that is good. you are still serving your church. >> i am. >> you are still passed during people at your church. you are a senator in washington during the week. do you consider yourself more of a pastor or more of a senator? how do you balance that? >> oh wow. for me, my work in the senate is an extension of my life's project, which is ministry of service. and so, there is this kind of synergy, really, between the two. >> and you learn a lot from the people you see a church on the weekend? >> the people that church make sure you keep it real. [laughter] >> that's pretty key. >> they keep you grounded. >> ebenezer baptist, most people are familiar with the history, martin luther king junior there. does that weigh on your shoulders? does that lift your shoulders? how does that impact what you do in your work? >> it's inspiring. i got to know john lewis. he was my parishioner. being that close to him and andrew young and so many others who are right there in the movement is a constant reminder to me that these are just ordinary people in a sense who made a commitment to bring their gifts to their work. and you never know the difference that'll make. >> did you interact with president jimmy carter at all? >> jimmy and rose carter are two of my favorite people on earth. here is a man who demonstrates how faith ought to work and how it ought to come alive. he's used not as a weapon, but as a bridge. he demonstrates that leadership it is not so much about an office as much as it is about an orientation, a way of being in the world. he is a great model for me, what it means to let your faith come alive in the public square. just deeply inspiring. i've enjoyed the time, i've had time to talk with him over the years and spent some time with him. there is a long history between president carter and the ebenezer baptist church. >> a remarkable man. there's a bother you that the evangelical community seems to be -- continued to very much be behind donald trump? is that surprising? >> it's a deep contradiction. it's a deep contradiction. i think that when the history of this period is written, we will have a lot to say about that. you cannot account for some of the divisive forces at work in our country, sadly, without reference to what is happening in huge segments of the american church. i come out of a tradition that has always tried to use faith to bring us together. i like the way jimmy carter used his fate. i like the way more in luther king junior and ella baker and white brothers and sisters like james reed, in the midst of the civil rights movement, how they used their fate. and so many others in this moment. >> my thanks to senator raphael warnock for spending the day with me and helping me along in my shaky biking. and a special thanks to the crew the farm in georgia. we are coming back right after a quick break. stay with us. ay with us whenever heartburn strikes. get fast relief with tums. it's time to love food back. also available tums+ sleep support. ♪ unnecessary action hero! ♪ also available tums+ -missing punches? -unnecessary! -check reversals? -unnecessary! -time sheet corrections? -unnecessary! -unentered sick time? -unnecessary! -go! -unnecessary! -go! -unnecessary! -when you can take this phone, you'll be ready. -make the unnecessary, unnecessary. let your employees do their own payroll. she found it. the feeling of finding the psoriasis treatment she's been looking for. sotyktu is the first-of-its-kind, once-daily pill for moderate-to-severe plaque psoriasis... for the chance at clear or almost clear skin. it's like the feeling of finding that outfit psoriasis tried to hide from you. or finding your swimsuit is ready for primetime. dad! once-daily sotyktu is proven to get more people clearer skin than the leading pill. don't take if you're allergic to sotyktu; serious reactions can occur. sotyktu can lower your ability to fight infections including tb. serious infections, cancers including lymphoma, muscle problems, and changes in certain labs have occurred. tell your doctor if you have an infection, liver or kidney problems, high triglycerides, or had a vaccine or plan to. sotyktu is a tyk2 inhibitor. tyk2 is part of the jak family. it's not known if sotyktu has the same risks as jak inhibitors. find what plaque psoriasis has been hiding. ask your dermatologist about sotyktu for clearer skin. so clearly you. sotyktu. 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