loose. >> the implication of another maga foot soldier heading to prison. >> there is nothing that will shut me up. there is not a prison -- there's not a prison bill, there's not a prison or jail bill that will ever shut me up. >> be concerns over trump's order to install loyalists on a key house committee. >> representative parry contacted the white house in the weeks after january 6 to seek a presidential pardon. as the flag scandal gets worse. >> breaking news. clarence thomas has wealthy friends who have vocationally been generous to him. >> stunning details on the generous friends of clarence ri thomas. extracted president biden just break the world's largest cartel? good evening. i'm chris hayes.. steve bannon is going to prison. it's been a long time coming. the former adviser to donald trump who wears two button-down shirts on top of each other for no discernible reason, was ordered to return to prison starting july 1 for his conviction of federal contempt of congress charges nearly two years ago. bannon was subpoena by the january 6 select committee in 2021 and like fellow trump adviser peter navarro and several members of congress including jim jordan, he flatly refused to comply. he just said no. go take a hike. peter navarro was convicted of contempt and currently in a federal prison in miami after appealing his case all the way to the supreme court which refused to bail him out. bannon played out a lengthy appeals process which he eventually laws. this is hardly his first brush h with the law. you might remember in 2020. steve bannon was arrested on the out of a chinese billionaire. in fact, if you were not build up a last-minute pardon from donald trump on the final day of trump's presidency, he may have already been imprisoned following the indictment from the department of justice. and indictment the city granted millions of dollars from hundreds of thousands of trump supporters through phony claims he would privately fund construction of the border will. they didn't really do it. two of his codefendants in the w case pleaded guilty. a third was convicted at trial. they are currently serving between three and five years in federal prison as part of the same plot that bannon was accused of being part of. bannon was spared that fate by his former boss after january 6 when bannon proved himself to be a vital ally during the attempted coup. including, as the january 6 committee revealed, frequent contact with trump and the hours before the insurrection. >> while close associates of former president trump express concerned about what would occur in january 6, other members of the inner circle of the president spoke with great anticipation about the events to come. the committee has learned from the white house phone logs the president spoke to steve bannon, his close adviser, at least twice on january 5. the first conversation they had lasted for 11 minutes. from the same phone logs, we know the president and mr. bannon spoke on the phone that evening, this time for six minutes. >> we know he was adviser to g, the group of trump allies who met at their so-called command center at the willard hotel in washington, d.c. ahead of january 6 to plot ways to steal the 2020 election. according to journalist bob word for word and bob costa, he was at the willard when trump called him on january 5. to be clear, bannon wasn't trying to hide his involvement in this scheme. in the days a week before january 6, he dedicated hours of his daily podcast to the big lie of the stolen election often dropping less than subtle hints to something explosive was in the works. >> people are getting fired up. people are getting matter, as they should. mike pence's his moment of destiny awaits him. it's coming on the sixth of january. january 6 was going to be the day or one of these big days and you had to converge everything to january 6. starting tomorrow, will be wild. it's incredible. you'll be part of history and getting as many people here as possible. his second term will start with a bang. all hell will break loose tomorrow. all hell will break loose tomorrow. >> two years after being convicted, steve bannon is going to prison. that's not all because he is also facing the street -- state criminal and indictment for the same scheme to rip up die hard trump supporters and steal their money from the. just like everyone else in trump's world, he likes to whine about vengeance, coming for the people. put e,them away. the real explanation is simpler. donald trump is a criminal, convicted on 34 felony counts and surrounds himself with other criminals like steve bannon and peter navarro and is operative robert stone -- roger stone. paul manafort, the former campaign manager sentenced to 7.5 years in prison on a fraud conviction who was also freed by trump. and his campaign manager who got prison time. george papadopoulos who did a brief stint in prison for lying to investigators about his contacts with russia. he got a trump pardon. and michael cohen who got sentenced to three years in prison for the work you did for donald trump partly the hush money scheme. allen weisselberg, the former who is in a cell and rikers r island awaiting it to million dollar payment from trump to keep his mouth shut. steve bannon joins a rogues gallery of trump associates going to prison. he can talk all he wants about revenge. the number 1 concern should be finding a guest host for his podcast for four months. joining me is glen kirschner, former federal prosecutor inside the courtroom with steve bannon today. the staff writer for the it atlantic to cover steve bannon even the ones getting kicked out of his rooftop election party which was a great sentence to enter. author of the dangers of a second trump term. let me start with you because you were in court today. i guess there was an open question about whether the judge would say time to go to prison. how did it play out? >> not only was it an open question, i think most of us were on the edges of our seats because you could not read where the judge was going. john crab was the prosecutor, a former colleague of mine. made a compelling argument as to why, now that the appellate court definitively shut down the one legal issue that the judge said was kind of an open question in his mind which is what prompted him to allow steve bannon to remain on release pending appeal. he ogot up and made what i thought were valid points. as he was questioning the prosecutor and the defense attorney, you could not read where the judge was going to land. i think it was not wauntil the very end of his announced findings that it became clear that he said, now that the appellate court as definitively resolved, the one question of law that judge nichols thought might be available to win steve bannon some relief on appeal, then he brought the hammer down. he said you will report to the federal bureau of prisons no later than july 1 to begin serving your sentence. then something happened that rarely happens. i saw eta david sort of sprang to the lectern. i can tell you ufrom being in the courthouse for years, usually you wait for an invitation from the judge before you approach the lectern, and he was loud and he was angry. the judge really had to put hime in his place. i don't know if that was performance for bannon or perhaps somebody above bannon. it was pretty clear at that point the judge had made up his mind and would not revisit his ruling. ru >> as far as i could tell, everyone likes to throw temper tantrums and throw their toys on the floor when they get upset in that world. the thing about bannon, there's two aspects. part of it is he has this professional wrestling stick he does. i am steve bannon and i'm so tough and scary and you should be cowering. settle shdown there. we will be fine. there's the fact that in some ways, there is a level in which the cover-up kind of worked. we never got the testimony from him. there was a reason he wanted to keep shut now he will do four months in prison. >> yeah, steve bannon is such a weird character in my life. i feel like many political reporters, he has been this person i've had to deal with for a decade at this point. he was a subject of mine and a source of mine. he ran one of the most poisonous right-wing media outlets in america for a while. he helped get trump elected. he is in the white house. through all of this, i will say as an aside to your point, i often struggle with how to depict him. he clearly was one of these people who enjoyed so much being depicted as a super villain character, that i sometimes wondered if i was doing his bidding by contributing to that characterization. what i will say is, steve bannon eventually, you know, through this time acted with complete impunity. i remember when he was pardon on the last day of trump's on presidency talking to other reporters about this and feeling like this guy will never be held accountable. he has escaped accountability. what's been interesting is watching the people in trump's orbit, one by one actually face accountability including donald trump himself. it has fculminated with his conviction. it's a surreal moment for journalists like me and people who have been following trump and his allies for so long, seeing them finally get there, pins. it's almost -- it's hard to fathom. >> in t'this case, the sentence the semester abroad. it's not a long sentence but he is not out of the woods. the new york case against him, the other folks part of this scheme in federal court. doing 3 to 5 years. he is staring down very serious criminal liability this fall and maybe commuting to that trial from the federal penitentiary. >> yeah, and as you said, but for a presidential pardon previously for largely the same charges although in federal court he will be tried in state court in new york, he could co already be in prison. could i build on something? it feels like we are forever thirsting for accountability and it rarely comes. if we look at the r fact that navarro is serving a prison term, steve bannon has been ordered to return to prison and donald trump will be sentence for 34 felony convictions on july 11, dare i say accountability might be trending at this sapoint? >> yes. justice grinding slow but fine at this point. the last thing for you is, there is so much open talk, we are going to prosecute our political enemies because they are our political enemies. we are going to use the tools of the state to put people in prison. frankly, authoritarian premises, what do you make of those promises? >> this is the danger of even the way we have these conversations about accountability. we should make clear the reasons good that accountability has come is because there was always a lot of evidence of actual crimes being committed. >> the trial and appeals. all of that. >> right. what donald trump has done is skipped that part when he talks about prosecuting his political enemies. he is saying and his allies are saying and i've spoken to his allies, paula runs project 2025 told me the whole notion of an independent justice department should be consigned to the ash heap of history. it is now the explicit promise that trump in a second term will use the justice system to go after political enemies whether or not they have committed crimes. that's the important difference. there are a lot of people who o worry about prosecuting the former president, and i understand those concerns. when there is so much evidence of criminality and a jury decides he is guilty, that's the system working. when you weaponize the justice department and jury system to go after people because they oppose you politically, that is authoritarianism. we need to be really careful about drawing that distinction. >> both good talkers, both possible felt and how sieves steve bannon is looking. thank you both. another supreme court scandal. melissa murray joins me in the incomparable side hustle of the exact justice you are expecting it to be. it to be. her uncle's unhappy. i'm sensing an underlying issue. it's t-mobile. it started when we tried to get him under a new plan. but they they unexpectedly unraveled their “price lock” guarantee. which has made him, a bit... unruly. you called yourself the “un-carrier”. you sing about “price lock” on those commercials. “the price lock, the price lock...” so, if you could change the price, change the name! it's not a lock, i know a lock. so how can we undo the damage? we could all unsubscribe and switch to xfinity. their connection is unreal. and we could all un-experience this whole session. okay, that's uncalled for. we did not get a decision in the donald trump immunity case today. it has been six weeks since the supreme court heard arguments of trump's absolute immunity from prosecution for his attempt to steal the 2020 election. the court is delaying it and they know that helps trump. what makes it more preposterous is to check justices should recuse themselves already. samuel alito with two different coo flags flying outside his home to clarence thomas whose wife testified about her efforts in support of the coop. that's the first of which the court is deeply compromised. new data out today from fix the court takes a look at the value of gifts to justices disclosed and undisclosed gifts subsequently re-ported. we will take you through a handful to give you a sense, kagan's calculated to receive just under $1200. that's over 20 years. ruth bader ginsburg, over -- under $60,000. samuel alito take it quite a bit more. $170,000 over 20 years, but none of that is in the zip code of the ballpark of justice clarence thomas whose gifts totaled over $4 million. to give you a sense of how that looks in chart form, take a look. can you see where justice thomas is on that bar chart. that is clarence thomas compared to all the other justices who served during this time. melissa miles per hour is a professor at new york university school of law. cohost of scrutiny. she joins me now. i've got to say, at some level, we know bits and pieces of this. there has been an amazing series of articles by pro- political and all the gives thomas has gotten. to see if put out like that, am i wrong to say generational scandal for the court? >> 100%. we have seen this trickle out piecemeal but have it explained in the aggregate makes clear the expanse of the graft. that's the right term for it. it is a craft. if you think of justice thomas's salary over the course of his time in the court during this period that's been reported, it's roughly equal to the amount of the gifts that fix the court has identified. that is staggering. he has managed to amass two distinct -- >> the cumulative gross pay is about $4.6 million. the total gifts is over $4 million. he has two masters. he is working for the american people and then he has got -- >> which american people? >> getting paid by the taxpayers. >> it has been said, look where your treasure is and there your heart will be also. it's not surprising some individuals who have been linked to these gifts. they have had thomas speak at donor events. happens to be deeply involved in a set of major challenges to the regulatory state. cases where waiting for the court to decide. we already know, at least, where the koch would like justice thomas to be. have they made enough payments on it? i don't know. that's kind of where all of this is going. >> the argument people will make in defense of thomas is he was always a conservative anyway and these are his friends hooking him up. >> it is not unconstitutional to have friends. i want to be clear about that. even rich friends. where the optics of this becomes more problematic is that we are seeing individuals essentially donate funds to the court to keep this conservative super majority in play. there's been a lot of reporting, some by the "new york times" last year, justice thomas complaining about his small judicial salary which is quite significant relative to what other americans make and how maybe he would not stay on the court. all these wealthy interests, no, no, let's figure out how to keep you on the court and happy and suddenly you see the money start rolling in. >> this is a key point and i want to talk about the delay on the immunity case. it's not surprising. they tipped their hand, they would not let jack smith jumped to the supreme court even though they knew they wanted to weigh in. they did it on covid cases and student debt. then they sat on it before they even announced arguments. than the announced arguments on the last day. now it's been six weeks. >> i've said this 1 million times. by the time the supreme court weighs in, this court must say at some point there is no absolute immunity for a president for many criminal liability but there may be details of what's private, public, the outer perimeter the president in office. >> a wholly invented doctrine to be clear. >> it is purely academic at this point. they have already in effect immunized this defendant, donald trump, from liability for these criminal charges. that's kind of all that matters right now. >> i want to play this clip from alito's neighbor who was in this verbal altercation with him and his wife who gave an interview . she is making this point. the flag went up and alito says it was about this verbal altercation that he went to a fox news reporter who reported what he said and didn't do additional reporting. here is his neighbor talking about the verbal back and forth. >> i want to emphasize that the interaction that happened on february 15 is the one they are using as an excuse for why they flew the flag. i want to hammer home the fact that happened february 15. there flag went up two or three weeks before that. >> dates confirmed by text messages and a police call. this may be dashes we still don't know what they were flying the flags upside down in joe biden's inauguration day. >> we don't. my colleague at nyu made a good point. justice alito issued this letter to senator durbin and the white house explained he will not recuse himself from these january 6 related cases with because -- he has no obligation to recuse himself. if she is correct that the time line is wrong and it seems it is wrong, there's a discrepancy between her time line and justice alito's, he has lied to congress. brian goodman suggested maybe that is something worth investigating as a criminal matter. there's a lot going on. are they waiting because of the proximity of the scandal to those cases? if that is the case, then we've answer the question as to why justice alito should recuse because were asking those questions. it's too complicated. >> melissa murray who is fond of flags. >> flagrantly. >> still ahead. which has been said about jeffrey epstein, the guy with the island. why doesn't donald trump want you to find out more? t more? what is cirkul? cirkul is what you hope for when life tosses lemons your way. cirkul is your frosted treat with a sweet kick of confidence. cirkul is the effortless energy that gets you in the zone. cirkul, available at walmart and drinkcirkul.com. we know by now that donald trump will say anything to anyone at any time to get elected. the most extreme character of a typical politician and it doesn't matter if he understands the issue or has existing position or making it up. campaign interviews with trump play out like he's a contestant on a quiz show tried to give the right answer as fast as he can. that's how it was going in this interview with fox and friends about the deep state stuff he will declassify. right up until one very specific bunch of deep state stuff. >> some people think that one way to build trust is to declassify things that everyone is talking about. i don't want to be a conspiracy theorist. if you were president, would you declassify, the 9/11 files? >> you have. >> jfk files? >> you have. i di