tomorrow. you may know him as steve bannon but on monday trump's former campaign manager and chief white house strategist will become federal inmate 056- 3509. having already lost his case and first appeal bannon is expected to report to a federal prison in connecticut on monday morning. s that unless the supreme court intervenes which it could do at any moment. today the department of justice, formerly urged the high court not to intervene here. and to let mr. bannon face accountability for his actions but remarkably, the justice department isn't the only group that lobbied the court about steve bannon today. >> mr. speaker, i understand there might be a change in position regarding the house and their stance on the january 6th committee and it might be regarding steve bannon and it may have a big impact on his contempt case. tell me what's going on. >> yeah, we're working on filing an amicus grief on his apellate court there in his case. >> reporter: today speaker of the house mike johnson and several other republican members of the house voted to make the formal position of the u.s. house of representative the formal position that the january 6th committee did not have the authority to do the work that it did. and that therefore, steve bannon should not have to go to prison. to step back here for some context. remember that the reason steve bannon is heading to prison in the first place is because he refused to comply with the subpoena from the january 6th committee. that's despite clearly knowing a lot about january 6th and the plan to overturn biden's win in congress. just to refresh your memory. here was mr. bannon the day before the attack on the capital. >> tomorrow morning, look. what's going to happen. we're going to have president trump speaks at 11:00. we're going to be live at 10:00. we're going to have a lot of analysis. i'll tell you this it's not going to happen like you think it's going to happen. it's going to be quite extraordinarily different. and all i can say is strap in. the war room posse you have made this happen and tomorrow it's game day. >> strap in tomorrow it's game day. you might think that defying congress would not be something members of congress would support. you might think that helping a potentially key witness refuse to cooperate in an investigation into the gravest attack on congress since the war of 1812 that might be inadvisable for the speaker of house. but the republican leader of the house isn't just doing that he's boasting about it on national television. today we may have gotten a clue as to why. today the washington post and george mason university are out with new polling that asked voters in six key swing states who they trusted more when it came to protecting our democracy. joe biden on donald trump. somehow donald trump came out on top. 44% of voters in those six swing states trust trump over biden to protect democracy. in arizona, michigan, nevada, pennsylvania, wisconsin and georgia 44% of voters trust donald trump. the man who incited the attack on the capital, the man who calls the january 6th rioters hostages. and more to the point, the man who tried to subvert democracy and steal our last presidential election by force. i mean, trump lies about the last election so much to this day, that last night when he phoned into the conservative channel news max and started bragging about winning the most votes the network news max scrambled to run a matter that says, please note, news max accepts the elections results as legal. that isn't necessarily because news max cares about the truth but maybe because news max is being sued by multiple voting machine companies for defamation in and around the 2020 election. but somehow, somehow more voters in the swing states that will likely decide this election trust donald trump over joe biden when it comes to defending our democracy. that poll is confounding. but it also highlights a dark reality and one we have to wrestle with to understand what's happening in our nation's capitol right now. the big lie is working. not everywhere and not all the time. but donald trump and his republican boosters in congress and the right wing media they have all successfully sold a sizable portion on the american congress not just on the lie that the election was rigged but that donald trump and steve bannon are victims. and that they trump and bannon are the defenders. as preposterous as it may sound. >> i have the wounds all over my body. if i took my shirt off, you would see a beautiful, beautiful, person. but you would see wounds all over. all over me. i've taken a lot of wounds, i can tell you. more than i suspect any president ever. i suspect any president ever. >> not only is trump fund raising off of this by printing his mug shot on t-shirts and mugs. but he's claiming that when he had his mug shot taken in fulton county georgia he was tortured in the jail. now if you live on earth one, as i do, it is almost impossible to take trump's martyr act serious. he is getting special treatment everywhere including the highest court in the land where the supreme court has not ruled if trump has immunity and can do whatever he wants. but if you live on earth two, if the information you're receiving is from right wing media or donald trump on his allies and social media feeds, well then the lies really seem to be sticking. but, we are now less than 24 hours before november when the people of earth one and the people of earth two will see the very same thing at the same time. tomorrow night at 9:00 p.m. eastern, president biden and donald trump will face off in a televised debate that will be hosted by cnn but will also be simulcast. if you turn on a television tomorrow at 9:00 p.m. the odds are you will see this debate. and according to a new online survey from the associated press, four in 10 american adults said they are going to be watching live. it's almost half the country. so with this massive opportunity to pierce the bubble of these lies, what does joe biden do? joining me now is georgia democratic senator rafael warnock. serves as the senior pastor at ebenezer baptist church in atlanta. i can think of no better person to help understand this moment we're in. thank you for joining me. let me just first ask as someone who understands the state of georgia well, how and why is donald trump able to convince a majority of voters in your state that he is the real defender of democracy. that he is the champion of freedom. >> well, it's great to be here with you. thank you so very much. listen, i hail from the great state of georgia. and where the debate will happen tomorrow, i think it's appropriate remember that it was georgia after all that saved the day. i was on the ballot here in 2020-21, one of five times. and who would have thought that when the nation was at this critical place, that it would be georgia that would make the difference. sending its first african- american senator and its first jewish senator to the united states senate. in a state in the jim crow south. we gave the united states a chance. and at the end of the day i think georgia voters will do it again. because they see the difference. we're going to see these polls go up and down between now and november. forgive me for quoting the scripture but you asked to talk to the preacher tonight. i still believe as jesus said that you shall know the truth. the truth will set you free. dr. king used to say the truth crushed the earth will rise again. so we have to continue to lay out the contrast between these two men and tomorrow is a critical moment in that discussion. i think as tough as these times are, the thing about this election is that it's a binary choice and the choice could not be more stark. it's literally between a man who can only think about himself and is obsessed with himself with all of these criminal charges hanging over him. and a man who has literally dedicated his whole life to public service, a noble calling. and i think that our job between now and november is to preach the gospel which literally means the good news about the work that's being done and yet the great work that we have to continue to do. >> you know you bring up the gospel and scripture and i wonder if we can sort of extract any lessons from that. i think you're no better person, there's no better person to sort of try and understand the magnetism of trump than you reverend. i know you spoke about the moral and spiritual battle that the country is in and that this is really a spiritual crisis that america is going through that has been exacerbated by trumpism. i don't think it's lost on anybody the way in which trump sees himself as a sort of savior like figure. he was talking in that sound we played earlier if you took his shirt off you would see the wounds. and either explicitly or implicitly often invokes jesus and his struggles in his campaign. and i wonder, you know, a what you make of that. but also what you think it speaks to in terms of a deeper yearning that people who follow trump are looking for. >> donald trump is a plague on the american conscious and the american nation. i talked about the fact that when we were in the midst of this terrible once in a century pandemic, and we saw donald trump and those around him at work trying to divide the country, because that's what people like him do. they don't know how to lead us so they're trying to divide us. and georgia sent the son of immigrants to the united states senate in one felt swoop. i believe that martin luther king jr. and yeshell were in that moment giving a high five in glory because they were together marching. i have to tell you the next morning i felt great about how georgia had done. and everybody wanted to talk to me about how we won that election. but that next morning was january 6th. our victory lap was short lived. we saw a violent assault on our capital unlike anything we've seen since the war of 1812 driven by this big lie that you're talking about that the election was stolen. but what we have to remember is that behind that big lie is an even bigger lie. what they were really saying is this new emerging electoral, multi racial, multi generational doesn't get to decide the direction of the country. they're trying to take us backwards. joe biden is trying to take us forward and the choice this november is between the america of january 5th that has a place for kids like me and for kids appalachian kids, poor kids, and the america of january 6th. that sees our neighbors as enemies. and it couldn't be a more stark choice. i believe that at the end of the day, the people of georgia and the people of this country there's just enough decency in this country. if we keep pushing and keep laying out the truth, that the truth will prevail. >> you know, you talk about the power of the multiracial, multiethnic coalition that brought you and senator ossof into office again. and i do wonder, whether what you think about the strength of that coalition in your state coming up this november. because the polling shows, president biden is slimming among communities of color. i believe the new atlanta journal constitution poll says among black voters in georgia, 69% of them are going for biden. 9% for trump, 6% for robert f. kennedy jr. 12% are undecided. in 2020 exit polls had biden at 88%. if those numbers are right that's nearly a 20% drop. and i wonder do you believe it? what do you account? what do you hold to account for it. >> as somebody who's name was in the ballot five times in georgia in less than three years and who preaches every sunday from martin luther king's pulpit. i think i know a little something about black voters. i can tell you that black voters are not going to show up and vote for donald trump not in any appreciable numbers. we'll see the polls go up and down from now to november. most americans aren't really paying much attention until after labor day. so we'll continue to make the case that really we're talking, about the soul of our country. we are i believe in a spiritual battle. between those who want us to see each other as enemies, to turn on each other, and the forces in our country that would have us turn toward each other and build a nation that is strong enough, broad enough in its moral vision to embrace all of us. it is that nation that gave me a chance. one of 12 children in our family. i'm number 11 out of 12 first college graduate. how did it get there? pell grants, that's why i reminded him of his promise to do student debt cancellation to his credit he got it. and with one hand behind his back, he's canceled some $160 billion of student loans, helping some 5 million americans we hope that by the end of the year, it'll be many many more americans. i can tell you that i go in rooms with black people all across the state and i ask them, have you or anybody you know gotten student debt cancellation and i haven't been in a room yet where hands have not gone up. on top of that $16 billion of investments and historically black colleges. prescription drugs capped to $35 of out of pocket cost per month that's my bill which the president signed into law. my question is do we want to keep building on that p rogress. sure people are struggling. the whole nation is struggling on what i call a low grade fever after three years of a pandemic. prior to that 20 years of war. i think there's some days you wake up in the morning and there's just this numb feeling. and the question is, who do you want leading at a time like that? i think we want somebody who has been baptized in his own pain and suffering. has said goodbye to children more than once. has lived a life of service, not a perfect man but one who has been made better by struggle and who understands the struggles of ordinary people. that's joe biden. >> it's a pleasure to have you on the program. thank you so much for your time. >> thank 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the term the united states supreme court handed down two rulings this morning and then inadvertently they gave us a sneak peak into a third. reporters at bloomberg law got access to an accidentally posted copy of what appears to be the court's decision on a very consequential abortion case. according to bloomburgberg is poised to allow women in idaho to receive abortion in medical emergencies. on face this sounds like a good decision but the decision appears to be because of a technicality rather than the actual merits on the case. the justices did not decide whether state abortion bans can be overwritten by federal law requires doctors to provide medical interventions including abortion in emergency situations. in other words, whether doctors are allowed to perform emergency abortion if medically necessary. and that is very much a live issue in five other states where abortion is almost completely banned. as justice brown-jackson made very clear in her opinion the ruling is not a victory for pregnant patients in ohio, it is a delay. while this court doddles and the country waits, the doctors are kept in the dark about what the law requires. joining me now is eran carmone and the author of the book, being pregnant in america. you understand the complexities of these issues better than most. but the voracity of the decision does it smack of the decision. and brown-jackson is not mincing words about how upset she is. >> so many fascinating dynamics to break down here. the first thing is a court did say that a decision, or that a text of a decision was up loaded. we know it's a legitimate document. we don't know if it's a final document. it's funny how we're getting to peer back behind the curtains so many times and the court looks like a hot mess almost every single time that happens. it could have just been an error that seems like the likeliest reason. it's certainly reads that every single justice is itself. there's a small chance it was yanked because perhaps an outcome of a vote has changed. i doubt it. we'll find out tomorrow morning perhaps the next day when their decision is scheduled. >> what about brown-jackson that this is an appalling waste of court's time. we can't simply wind back the clock to how things were before the court injected itself into this matter with the dobbs ruling. it is too little for the court to take a mulligan and just tell the lower courts to carry on as if had not happened. as the old adage goes the court has made its bed so now it must lie in it. these are forceful words from the newest member of the court and she seems quite clearly upset about how this has been handled. >> this is very powerful comes from justice jackson. she's calling out barrett who's described herself about changing her mind about taking the case. just big picture something before we step back in all the different opinions what they mean here. what's at stake here is for the longest time on planet right wing fantasy there is n