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i think we have the right to health care, but i don't think we have the obligation to accept health care. i don't think it's right for people in washington to tell us what people in georgia are going to have to do when we go to the doctor. a montana man accused of trying to board a plane with four handguns. harold waller reportedly was carrying a loaded gun and two knives when he went through security at sacramento international airport. tsa screeners say they found three more semiautomatic guns in waller's carry-on bags. an waller was arrested investigators found eight more guns in his car. no word on what the motive may have been. six children and two adults are dead after a fire swept through a house in charleston, west virginia. investigators are looking for a cause but say it does not look suspicious. one adult managed to escape, a seventh child son life support. public outrage over the trayvon martin shooting is growing. protesters are railing across the country demanding justice for the death of the unarmed florida teen. the reverend al sharpton attended this demonstration today in new york. another protest is starting right now in washington. cnn's holly firfer is live in sanford, florida, where george zimmerman shot martin in self-defense he says. jeb bush is commenting on the case. what has been the reaction? >> reporter: yeah, fredricka. he's been consulting on the case because in 2005 when he was governor he wrote that, stand your ground bill into the law. that's the law that says basically any civilian can use deadly force if they feel their life is threatened. what is what george zimmerman was saying. he's saying this was a case of stand your ground. well, jeb bush thought otherwise. take a listen. >> it appears to me that this law does not apply to this particular circumstance. stand your ground means stand your ground. it doesn't mean chase after somebody who's turned their back. >> reporter: and now the police chief in sanford bill lee, temporarily stepped down, giving reasons on the website why they consider this a stand your ground issue this is what he said. he said zimmerman's statement was he had lost sight of trayvon and was returning to his truck to meet the police officer when he says he was attacked by trayvon. so now, fredricka, the issue is really up to investigators. they have a special prosecutor that arrived yesterday to take a look at this case. to look into the investigation to see whether or not charges should be brought to see if this is a stand your ground case. is this a self-defense case? or is it quite simply, fredricka, murder? >> so i wonder why the police chief who is temporarily stepped down would release that statement, that account, by way of the website as opposed to usually on a police report that would be requested by media? why did the police department decide to go this route? >> reporter: well i think for a couple of reasons. one, bill lee stepped down temporarily. he's not in charge of the police department right now. they put two captains in as interim chief to kind of run the department. another reason, i think because of the media attention and because people are demanding that george zimmerman be arrested for murder and be charged in this, that he's trying to explain why they took the steps to say this was a stand your ground case. so pretty much defending his decision and his police force's decision so he decided to sort of quell that outcry saying that the police did not do their job by telling them what zimmerman allegedly told the police department when they got to the scene. >> holly firfer, thanks so much in sanford, florida. so florida's governor rick scott is weighing in calling for a review of the stand your ground law. but the florida state representative who co-authored it argues, there's nothing wrong with the law. dennis baxley says, it should not apply to this shooting. >> from the case in sanford that this doesn't apply. there's nothing in this statute that provides you the authority to pursue and to confront people on the street. >> and we get a different perspective from dan gelber who voted against the stand your ground law when in the florida state senate and is now calling for its repeal. earlier today i asked if the trayvon martin death is the kind of case he feared would happen. >> prior to 2005, we had a perfectly good self-defense law and there were no victims or people who claimed they had been treated in you know, unfairly by that law. so in 2005 governor bush signed the law a bill that essentially took out of the law any requirement that a person in broad daylight, outside of their home, as this case suggests harks to de-escalate a situation, or walk away if he can. >> so what precipitated this law, then? if you said everything seemed to be fine and then this new law came into place. what was the impetus for? >> i think really the nra, who has really won every major battle in florida. does this fringe issues. they really don't have anything to do with a real victim, and we asked every proponent of the law, just give us that single person who was unfairly prosecuted, unfairly convicted or acquitted who shouldn't have been, and nobody could point to a single person in the state in that category. >> so is it your view this is a first-first law, becau-- shoot- and ask questions later? and in this case, he and others are exemplifying not enough questions are being asked? >> listen, i don't want to throw red meat into something that's not fair. i don't think people do stupid or malicious things because of this law. but people that do stupid and malicious things have a defense that they should not be entitled to because of this law. i mean, mr. zimmerman is going to have the ability to muddle up the waters in this because of this law, and he shouldn't have. he clearly did something wrong. he clearly, if that young man's life means anything it means that justice has to be done here, but he's going to be able to have a defense in this case, or at least start one, and apparently the detectives initially believed he had one because of this law. >> now that former governor jeb bush weighed in and says that this is not the intent of the law. it didn't appear based on all of the public accounts, eyewitness accounts that george zimmerman was being pursued by trayvon martin, instead the other way around, and that this law may have been misused in this case. do you believe that that is impetus enough for a real movement to try to repeal this law, and if so, what will it take? >> well, i think the stand your ground part of the law has to be repealed. we didn't need that law. it was unnecessary. it was a solution in search of a problem. >> we'll stay on this story coming up. at the half hour i'll talk to a man who has written an op-ed about the deepening distrust between many blacks and police. and joining cnn's don lemon at serve cynthia for a one-hour special on the trayvon martin killing, as the national outrage intensifies, one group in particular caught our attention. minority mothers. hear their unique perspective and advice they give their children in hopes they don't end up dying young. you'll also hear from neighbors and friends of both trayvon martin and the admitted shooter. it is a "cnn newsroom" special report tonight with don lemon. the trayvon martin killing. 7:00 p.m. eastern time. hope ben fict xvi is in mexico, vat tin officials call it a journey of hope. dame details coming up on where he goes next. i am loving this greek yogurt. i like yoplait. it is yoplait. but you said it was greek. mmhmm. so is it greek or is it yoplait? 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[ female announcer ] yoplait. it is so greek. outside the u.s. right now. pope benedict is in mexico. first full day trip to mexico. he met with the president and travels to cuba on monday. way out in space, the crew of the international space station took emergency precautions today. they jumped into the escape capsules when a hunk of space junk got too close for comfort. there was a slight chance the debris could have hit the space station. it didn't, thankfully, and passed all-clear. and this boat is really far from home. a fishing boat that disappeared in last year the tsunami in japan turned up this weekend off the coast of british columbia. it took a year to drift nearly 5,000 miles. all right. time to check in on the latest political developments. right now gop voters in louisiana are casting their votes in the state's republican primary. let's go straight to joe johns. are you still right outside new orleans? >> reporter: no, well -- jefferson parish right outside -- yeah. i've got to tell you, you know, it's all the same. we've been watching this polling place here in jefferson parish. there's actually a pollster here watching the people going in and out that says a little over 100 people since 7:00 a.m. central. not a huge number of people, and that is the kind of thing they're sort of expecting all over the state, fred. i guess the other thing that's important to say is, polls suggested coming into today that rick santorum had a double-digit lead over mitt romney, but whoever wins, it's also true that it's very possible nobody's going to get a big delegate hall all of state of louisiana. they only assign something like 20 delegates after tonight, and that is proportionally so you can have a situation where the winner get something like nine delegates to the rnc convention. second place six and so on. this is just not the kind of election where anybody is going to really get a big lead. on the other hand, whoever wins can come out of here saying, they've got some momentum going into the next contest, fred. >> okay. and if that person ends up being santorum. okay? say he wins louisiana. that momentum going into the next context,s with with, maryland, d.c., et vaet when you stills have mitt romney and 40%. he's the closest to getting to that magic number of 1,114. or 44. then you know, is there still some pressure improsed on santorum, on gingrich, on ron paul to get out? >> reporter: yeah. there is some pressure. there's been a lot of pressure on gingrich. there's also people talking about it with rick santorum, but i've got to tell you, so far he's indicating he doesn't want it get out. he says he's going to take this thing all the way to the convention. one side of that, they have this new web video out that just came out very recently. it's called "obamaville." the santorum picture painted is of a very bleak future, two years from now, in the united states, should president obama be re-elected. so that's one sign that they are continuing the fight. they are trying to keep the focus on president obama and not so much necessarily on rick santorum as it sort of got -- not so much on romney but it got santorum into trouble last week when he suggested in one of his speeches that america might be better off or whatever if obama were to get re-elected. he seems to be pushing this thing all the way to the convention. the best, perhaps, he can do at this stage if you look at these numbers is try to deny romney the votes he needs to be the clear winner. >> got it. >> reporter: that's what you do. or you try to do all right. interesting race. hot and stick think, because it always is there in that -- part of country in new orleans. so stay cool when you can. thanks, joe. >> reporter: okay. join ug r is everything sunday afternoon 4:00 eastern time when we dedicate an entire hour to the presidential contenders in this 2012 election. our financial fix is next with ways to spring clean your finances. but first, if you're considering a new car, kiplinger's is out with its list of the cheapest vehicles to own. this inclunds maintenance, fuel cost and insurance. at number five is the kia soul, four-door hatch. the toyota yaruss. two-door hatch comes in at number four. the ford fiesta s. the top two after the break. ashlee! ashlee! ashlee! ashlee! what were you looking for when you bought your edge? um, i was definitely looking for fuel economy. that's the whole reason we, we wanted to look at the ecoboost. can you talk a little bit about the style of the edge? um, well, i think it's very hip. i even have several guys were like "whoa, do have twenties on those". like, don't even know what that means, but i guess it's cool. (laugh) kiplinger.com is out with its list of the cheapest cars to own. the top two, the hyundai four door and the cheapest car, nissan versas four are door. the number one issue in american homes getting your financial house in order. today in our weekly financial fix, spring is here. while you may be cleaning your house you may also freed to clean up your finances. money-saving expert andrea warwick joins me from los angeles. good to see you. >> good morning. >> all right. let's begin with getting organized by caonsolidating thoe accounts. to what degree? >> okay. first of all, clear the clutter by shredding bank statements and checks that you've already posted to your account and consider going paperless. you can manage your bank accounts and bill payments online or with your bank secure mobile app, and also consolidate your bank dot one or two institutions and shop around for the best rates. consider opening up an online savings account. you get a better interest rate and a better return because the online banks operate at a much lower cost than brick and mortar banks. for the same reason you'll find lower account maintenance fees. a smart option for your savings. >> all right. what kind of spring cleaning can you do for your investment and retirement saving? >> first of all, tracking and analyzing investments against several retirement funds is going to be daunting and time consuming and confusing, but it's something that you must do. an old retirement account is often unattended even though those investments might be inappropriate. so you have a 401(k) from your first employer with whom you haven't worked with for over 20 years. those investments maybe too aggressive. so want to move them to the retirement plan with your current employer, and then also consider meeting with a financial planner who can direct you to make wiser investments, to make more from your money. >> okay. what about those credit cards? is this an issue of sometimes you have too many or is it meaning, how you tackle, you know, the debt you may have on these credit cards. what? >> exactly. well, there are consumers who have debt across multiple credit cards. they have no idea how much they owe in total, how much they're wasting on interest rates or what the interest rates even are. what i recommend is, write it all down and come up with a plan to pay off that debt. tackle those high-interest credit cards first, because you'll save more money over time and cut up the credit cards so first of all, you're not tempted to use them and you don't necessarily want to cancel those credit cards once you have paid them off. that could temporarily damage your credit and if you're seeking a mortgage or car loan you'll end up struggling to get a good rate. >> then, of course, everybody wants to figure out, how do i spend less per month? slash that spending? how do you go about that? >> okay. yeah. first of all, if you want to slash your monthly spending, having a budget is a good, a really important tool. know where your money is going and a lot of consumers have no idea. then consider how you can cut every day costs. there's a website called giftcardgranny and they sell discount cards for an average of 15% off the face value. find them for restaurants, movie theaters, grocery stores, department stores. so it's a really smart way to reduce your everyday spending or specialty purchases. and then you may consider reviewing various bills. say the cell phone bill. review how many minutes you're actually using. seems consumers are paying for minutes than you're actually using. you may be able to move to a lower plan that costs less. otherwise, consider eliminating a text messaging plan. that's up to a $15 savings. >> nobody wants to do that. >> i know. but there are apps for smartphones that let you text for free. it's a clear way to save. >> very good. great advice in spring cleaning finances. thanks so much from los angeles. >> thank you. guess what? for middle aged women, knee pain is a common complaint. you need to get to the root of the problem, and find ways to treat it. right? elizabeth cohen has nor today's "health for her." >> reporter: women with knee pain know how miserable and debilitating it can truly be. >> when women are younger they tend to get more tendinitis or irritation issues around the knee and then as they age, especially when they accumulate previous injuries it may lead to arthritis and further changes. >> reporter: the american college of rheumatologist says near think two-thirds of women ages 50 and older have some degree the knee pain that may come and go or stick around. osteoarthritis is often to blame. >> women are more at risk for arthritis than men are. specifically when women go through menopause, we think estrogen may have protective effect in the cart lidge of the knee. >> reporter: sometimes it's due to overuse injuries. how do you know what the best treatment is? see your primary doctor to start determining the cause. he or she may need to send to you a specialist. discuss options like acetaminophen with your doctor. also, don't forget to use exercise as medicine. do excess exercises that strengthen the muscle around the knee. you may need physical therapy. ahoid high-impact exercises and instead focus on low-impact ones. keep in mind, weight is also a leading cause of knee pain. with this week's "health for her" i'm elizabeth cohen. and to trayvon martin, the relationship between blacks and police. we'll take a hard look at the issue, next. turn left. the passat is one of nine volkswagen models named a 2012 iihs top safety pick. not that we'd ever brag about it. turn right. come on, nine. turn left. hit the brakes. huh? 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[ male announcer ] we can't hide how proud we are to have nine top safety picks like the passat and jetta. so we're celebrating with our "safety in numbers" event. that's the power of german engineering. right now lease the 2012 jetta for $159 a month. rallies in several u.s. cities in support of trayvon martin, the teebager shot and killed last month in florida. straight ahead, a contributor joins us to discuss being black and that relationship with police. turning to our top stories -- six children and two adults are dead after a fire swept through a house in charleston, west virginia. investigators are looking for a cause, but say it does not look suspicious. one adult managed to escape and a seventh child is on life support. and right now hundreds of demonstrators are rallying against health care reform near the u.s. capitol building. on monday, the u.s. supreme court will hear arguments about whether the health care reform act is constitutional. demonstrators insist the act is illegal and they say it infringes on their freedom. and several other rallies are being held across the country protesting the shooting death of trayvon martin. demonstrators are demanding police arrest george zimmerman, the naked watch volunteer who shot the 17-year-old unarmed florida teen. a grand jury is scheduled to convene april 10th. sadly, many in the black community feel the trayvon martin case underscores and age-old problem with a new face. cnn contributor l.d. granderson agrees and wrote an opinion piece called "why black people don't trust the police." he joins me live now. good to see you, l.z. >> good to see you, too, fred. >> a long-standing distrust of police in many black households. this shooting and the lack of arrest that followed, delaying the city to investigate, only further deepens that mistrust

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