in handcuffs. these the images we saw for the first time about 20 or so minutes ago. their lead defense attorney said he would be shocked if jerry is acquitted on all charges. he said that earlier today. in fact, they convicted him on 45 of the 48 counts he was charged with. sentencing could come any time in the next 90 days. now, if the verdict stands, this man, who earned and betrayed the trust of so many children, as jeff toobin said, will likely die in prison. as we said, sentencing will be in 90 days. we have a number of legal analysts joining us. mark geragos from the defense side. former prosecutor jeff toobin, marcia clark. there you see jerry sandusky in a police car about to be taken off to a local jail where -- for the rest of his life, as we said. his new life has begun, his life in confinement. momentarily we expect to speak for an attorney for at least one of the victims who testified in this trial. there were ten alleged victims, eight of whom we heard the testimony in this relatively short trial. also relatively short deliberations. 21 hours for some 48 counts in all. we had a jury of seven women, five men. we're not going to be hearing from any of the jurors tonight. they were earlier, while this has been going on outside the courthouse, the jurors have been receiving instructions from the judge, who has told them according to reports not to speak to any reporters tonight. do we have justine? joining me now is justine andronichi, attorney for victims three and seven. thank you very much for being with us. first of all, have you talked to your clients tonight, and if so, what do they feel about this conviction? >> absolutely. the very first calls i made this evening were to clients i represent, that did testify in the trial. and they were greatly relieved. almost in disbelief, i think. one of them said, thank god he's in jail. and the other one expressed sentiments that it was a long time coming. both of them feel very, very good tonight. >> how was testifying for them? because clearly the defense was trying to, for a number of the accusers, trying to suggest that they had a monetary motive, or their stories had been coached by police somehow, or there had been some collusion of the stories. how was the experience for victims number three and seven? >> i can tell you that the experience was a very difficult one. as i think you may know, it's very difficult for adult survivors for childhood sexual abuse to come forward under any circumstances. but to come forward and be contacted and then have to disclose what has occurred on such a public -- in such a public way, extremely difficult for both of them. but they did so because they believed it was the right thing to do and they wanted to tell the truth. >> and what is next for them? i mean, will there be civil suits continuing on? how do they move forward now? >> i can tell you that what they've talked to me about and what we've talked about is they want to give back to their lives and begin to continue the process of healing. in terms of the next phase of this with respect to civil suits, i have no suit we're going to see some of those in these cases. the facts are still developing on those issues. and we still don't know everything that i think we will know about who knew about this, and what could have been done sooner. so we learned a lot in the trial and we're learning still more every day about the way that this happened, and how jerry sandusky was allowed to continue to abuse children for years. >> anyone who is guilty of 45 counts of child sexual abuse like this, it's fair to describe them as a monster, as a predator. do you believe -- i mean, you watched jerry sandusky closely through this trial. do you believe he knows he's guilty? do you believe he, deep down, knows he did something wrong? >> you know, i can't climb inside his head and understand what motivates him, what he thinks. what i can tell you is that the victims know he did something wrong and the community knows he did something wrong. and this jury heard what the victims had to say and they know he did something very, very wrong. the resounding message from this jury, finding guilt on every single victim charged in this case is crystal clear. i personally believe that this verdict tonight is attributable to the incredible courage of the victims who have come forward. they did so under extraordinary circumstances. i think we all owe them a great deal of gratitude for helping the public and the community better understand this issue and the challenges faced by survivors. and i just can't tell you how proud i am to have the opportunity to work with these inspiring men. >> there have been so many people throughout this country and this world who have been abused in this manner, by people who were trusted and twhwho hav never spoken out about it. and your clients give others strength to come forward and deal with this in a way that allows them some peace and some ability to build a new life. so i hope you pass that along and our thanks and everybody's thanks should go to these, as you said, these brave young men who came forward. so appreciate you being with us tonight. thank you. >> thank you. thank you so much. i appreciate you having me. >> we're going to take a quick break. we have have been live now for more than an hour, so a quick break. when we come back, we'll talk to the lead defense attorney and others. we'll be right back. >> the sandusky family is very disappointed obviously by the verdict of the jury but we respect their verdict. you may recall for those of you who have been with this case from the beginning, that we said that we had a tidal wave of public opinion against jerry sandusky and the charges filed against him, that he had been determined to be guilty by the public and the media from the very outset of the charges and that we had an uphill battle. i used the am analogy that we were attempting to climb mt. everest from the bottom of the mountain. well, obviously we didn't make it. that cloud is in the network, so it can deliver all the power of the network itself. bringing people together to develop the best ideas -- and providing the apps and computing power to make new ideas real. it's the cloud from at&t. with new ways to work together, business works better. ♪ witassure my patients getether, evthe very best care.ake but look at our health care system. everyone agreed we needed reforms -- but this new health care law -- it just isn't fixing things. president obama promised my patients that they could keep me -- but what if because of this new health care law -- i can't keep them? 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>> it's anderson cooper. >> he knows i love you. >> i'm going to step out of here and i'm going to step in with anderson cooper as e we get you hooked up here. as you're getting hooked up here, give us a sense of how your client, what jerry sandusky said to you -- >> let's test the sound because with all this noise. can you hear? don't hear anything. >> joe, it's anderson cooper. can you hear me? >> i can, anderson. how are you? >> i'm good. to jason's question, did jerry sandusky say anything to you after the verdict was read? >> no, he really didn't. he looked at me and obviously he was distraught and disappointed but he didn't say anything verbally. >> what happens to him now? we saw him being led out in handcuffs, put in a police car, he goes off to i guess a jail. we're told that sentencing will be any time within 90 days. what do you do tomorrow? what is the next process? >> well, tomorrow i gather my wits and we start thinking about sentencing because that's the next step and start planning our appeal issues. we'll have to get a transcript of the trial and then we'll decide how we're going to proceed after sentencing. the sentencing probably will take place in september. you said and i talked to one of your co-counsels that there were a number of issues on appeal that you may have some sort of a case for. but no matter what you used to appeal, i mean, do you really believe you have enough that could actually overturn 45 counts against jerry sandusky? >> well, yeah. because if you went on one of the appeal issues, everything probably falls. all we have to do is convince an appellate court that one of the issues that we will raise is worthy of a reversal, and if there's a reversal, everything comes back. it could be 100 counts and it would all still come back if an appeal is granted and a higher court determines that we had a valid issue. >> did you want your client to try and go for some sort of plea agreement? >> no. as a matter of fact, jerry sandusky never considered a plea agreement. he always maintained his innocence. that's something that's important for every one to understand. for better or for worse, none of us were there when these things happened, but he always maintained that he was innocent. >> the discussion about whether or not he was going to testify, where did you stand on that? i assume you did not want him to testify. >> well, what happened, he intended to testify. he always wanted to testify and tell his side of the story. and what happened was, late last week on a thursday afternoon, the commonwealth indicated it might have additional information it wanted to present before it closed, we didn't know what it was. later that evening, we received a call from the commonwealth and the commonwealth attorney indicated that matt sandusky had talked to them and indicated that jerry had abused him. at that point i objected to the surprise and explained to the judge, the judge was involved in the conference, that we had always intended jerry to testify. this tremendously undercut our defense, placed us in a really bad situation since i had promised the jury that jerry would testify. so the next day the commonwealth alerted me to the fact that it had thought about its issue with matt sandusky and would not call matt in its case in chief. meaning it would rest without calling him. but it reserved the right to call him in rebuttal. that put us in a position of trying to decide if there was some way we could call jerry sandusky as a witness and jerry could testify without triggering matt's testimony in rebuttal. we decided we couldn't. it was too risky and we also decided if jerry testified and matt testified, regardless of the fact that not only jerry but dottie and the other five siblings of matt's all indicated that matt would be lying, that it would be catastrophic to hear matt come in to say jerry abused him too. at the last moment, it really was the last moment, a couple of days ago, that jerry finally decided he would not testify and take his attorney's advice. but that's how that developed. he always wanted to testify. >> had you intended to have matt sandusky testify on behalf of his adopted father? >> absolutely. matt had testified at a grand jury proceeding and defended his father and said no abuse had ever occurred, even though the commonwealth attorneys grilled him about jerry's abuse of him as a child. he denied it. he left that proceeding said he was so angry and retained private counsel and wanted to release a press release saying that the commonwealth had pressured him into saying his dad had abused him and that was not the case. and he was very angry about their efforts to do so. he also indicated that he would be a witness on jerry's behalf at trial right up until the trial and in fact the first day of trial sat with his family. and he indicated it was ridiculous, what the individuals were alleging. >> so do you know what changed? >> pardon me? >> do you know what changed? he was there the first day of the trial. do you know what changed in matt sandusky's mind? >> the family tells us that matt has had a history of mental health issues. matt goes up and down. matt has times when he loves somebody, at times he hates that person. the irony is the family tells me that matt had stayed at his parents' house recently after an argument with his wife and dottie sandusky tells me that matt and his current wife who's pregnant had asked dottie to host a baby shower for her within days of matt doing what he did. so the family was perplexed. but all the other five siblings, as well as dottie were prepared to testify to rebut the whatever he might have said. so we were prepared to handle it if it came forward. but on the other hand if we could avoid him coming into play at all, we felt the best chance was proceeding with the defense we presented. >> i know it's been a long day for you. i appreciate you talking to us tonight. thank you. >> any time anderson. i watch you all the time. >> take care. there were ten accusers in this case, the jury returned convictions. in the cases of all ten. michael boni for victim number one joins us next. back pain. imagine you, with less pain. cymbalta can help. cymbalta is fda-approved to manage chronic musculoskeletal pain. one non-narcotic pill a day, every day, can help reduce this pain. tell your doctor right away if your mood worsens, you have unusual changes in mood or behavior or thoughts of suicide. antidepressants can increase these in children, teens, and young adults. cymbalta is not approved for children under 18. people taking maois or thioridazine or with uncontrolled glaucoma should not take cymbalta. taking it with nsaid pain relievers, aspirin, or blood thinners may increase bleeding risk. severe liver problems, some fatal, were reported. signs include abdominal pain and yellowing skin or eyes. tell your doctor about all your medicines, including those for migraine and while on cymbalta, call right away if you have high fever, confusion and stiff muscles or serious allergic skin reactions like blisters, peeling rash, hives, or mouth sores to address possible life-threatening conditions. talk about your alcohol use, liver disease and before you reduce or stop cymbalta. dizziness or fainting may occur upon standing. ask your doctor about cymbalta. imagine you with less pain. cymbalta can help. go to cymbalta.com to learn about a free trial offer. go to cymbalta.com energy is being produced to power our lives. while energy development comes with some risk, north america's natural gas producers are committed to safely and responsibly providing generations of cleaner-burning energy for our country, drilling thousands of feet below fresh water sources within self-contained well systems. and, using state-of-the-art monitoring technologies, rigorous practices help ensure our operations are safe and clean for our communities and the environment. we're america's natural gas. our live breaking coverage in the verdict of the jerry sandusky trial. 45 guilty counts. three not guilty counts. 25 are felony, 14 first degree felony counts. maximum sentence for jerry sandusky facing 442 years. we believe sentencing sometime in the next 90 days. we received a statement from the paterno family. we understand the task of healing is just beginning, today's verdict is an important milestone. the community owes a measure of gratitude to the jurors for their diligent service, it also bears pointing out today that today is the five month anniversary of joe paterno's death. michael boni joins me now on the phone. he's the attorney for victim number one. it was really your client who first came forward and that's why it really gets the title victim number one. have you talked to him tonight? how is he feeling? >> he's feeling elated, yes anderson. i got off the phone with my client about 15, 20 minutes ago. unfortunately for him he has the night shift, he graduated high school a few weeks ago and already has a job, so he's got to spend his evening doing security at a night shift. but he is elated, as is his mother, who was crying. she was with her family and they feel very, very empowered right now by this decision. >> i don't think a lot of people can maybe understand the strength it must have taken for your client to come for want and break his silence and allow frankly all the other victims to then break their silence. because it was only after your client came forward and revealed what had happened to him that all the others began to come forward, as well. >> that's absolutely right. i know my client well. we've dined on a number of occasions, we've met on a number of occasions. and there is something within him, there is an inner strength within him that is belied by his frail frame, but there's something so powerful and strong in him and whatever it took to muster what is deep within him to tell his story is frankly the reason that we are all gathered around televisions around the country, maybe around the world tonight, because of his coming out and telling his story about