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charged with public intoxication, disorderly conduct, resisting arrest. take a look at this. near los angeles, one shopper actually pepper sprayed the people in line ahead of her at a walmart to get the year's hot video game console and it worked. sandra endohas developments. what more have you learned about the attack? it's almost impossible to believe that this actually happens during the holiday shopping season, but yet here we go again. >> reporter: yeah, absolutely, jim. that video is so amazing, and incredible to see the crowd as they go after these discounted items in walmart. and police say they are looking for a woman in her 30s who pepper sprayed the crowd as that deal went on sale. a large number of people were surrounding the area where xboxs were diswouldncounted and ten p were treated at scene last night. one person affected by the pepper spray and recorded the frenzy on tape. tell me about this woman. did you see her before? line waiting for this deal to open up? >> i didn't see her personally but i sure got the scent of the mace, i got it in my throat, it's burning. i saw people around me, they got it really bad. i tried to get away from it as quickly as possible, because i -- i didn't think it was worth it. no deal's worth that. >> reporter: and police say they are looking over surveillance video from the store and they don't have an exact i.d. on the victim -- actually the suspect yet, but they say that she doesn't appear to be using the pepper spray in self-defense, so she will likely face charges. >> san drashg it looks like there were other incidents at other walmarts around the country. specifically with respect to the story you're covering out there in california what is walmart saying about this? >> reporter: well, the spokesman for walmart says in a statement, that it was an unfortunate situation here in california. but we are glad everyone seems to be okay. we are working and with law enforcement to provide any assistance we can. >> what do police have to say about this? i mean with all of the problems that police officers have to go around and patrol for, you would think holiday shopping would not be one of them. >> reporter: yeah, absolutely. i talked to the police official here in los angeles and he said this was something that he has never seen before, a call like this, that they had to respond to the day after thanksgiving regarding shoppers. his message is that, look, everyone wants a deal, it's a tough economy. of course people want something on sale, but he says to everyone, he urges that shoppers just have a little patience out there and respect one another. jim? >> little patience, little respect goes a long way this holiday season. despite the scattered report of fights, shootings and incidents around the country, the big news is the crowds attracts by discounts. in macy's new york city, the store opened doors during the middle of the night and thousands of bargain hunters showed up. here is cnn's chris knowles. >> reporter: a steady stream of people all day here at macy's, this flagship store. they're doing things differently this year. in years past, 4:00 a.m. is when the doors opened. not this year. almost like a black thursday or black thanksgiving. we were here at midnight, believe it or not. that's when the doors opened. you can see by the crowded a huge turnout. talked to the ceo, he said it was the biggest crowd he's seen at one of these events and they had it at midnight, 10,000 people crushing doors, flooding the store, looking for all kinds of bargains. one aimed at the preteen set. we'll let this young lady explain. >> you bought the perfume, cd, poster for $65, and then you got a free digital camera. >> reporter: there it is. bieber fever on black friday. now we eagerly await monday. cybermonday, we won't have the rush of rushing the store, we will be on the keyboards looking for even more deals. jim? >> that should be safer if they do that. thank you so much. despite the sluggish u.s. economy, our polling shows that more people plan to go shopping today compared to 2006, before the recession. it has gone from about 1 in 5 to nearly 1 in 4, and psychologist jeff gardere joins us to talk about this. i was trying to come up with a tweet or hashtag for a tweet to describe the chaos we've seen today and i came up with #blackpepperfriday or #occupytheholidays. >> both sound good. do you watch all of this madness unfold and just wonder, you know, what is wrong with these people? >> well, look, when we look at the number of people who have acted out versus the hundreds of thousands or millions who are out there shopping, it is significantly so low that we don't want to say that these black friday shoppers are all crazy. however, it just does take a few people to spoil a party, and we know with the economy, the way that it is, potential for other people to act out emotionally, to get that rush, for example, that chris knowles was talking about, and then to react in a way that is totally inappropriate, that potential becomes almost exponential. >> why are people behaving this way, do you think? pepper spraying people in line in front of you in line, it just seems to make no sense at all. >> well, believe me, i think there are some people out there who are very unbalanced and they get that rush. in many ways they are bamboozled by the retails are into thinking they're going to get incredible deals where studies have shown you can get the same deals after thanksgiving, after christmas, and so on, but it's about that experience. so when you do have some people who are mentally unstable, they will react in a way that is totally inappropriate, that is dangerous. i think once they catch up with this woman, i would say she needs to have some sort of mental health evaluation because she didn't go out to buy food that her family needs, she went out to buy one of the latest items, which is something she doesn't need to have, and she pepper sprayed people in order to get it. i think that speaks to her mental instability. >> it's not just the images that we're seeing coming out today, people pepper spraying and getting pepper sprayed at big box stores. also seeing people camp out in front of these stores for hours, sometimes days on end, before black friday gets started. is that -- that is rational to do that, do you think? i don't want to disparage people who are trying to get a good deal, and everybody's entitled to do that, but it's just, you know, seems leak it's a bit much. >> jim, it has become an event. it has become a tradition. just like thanksgiving. and i think people have very humdrum lives these days, they're very concerned about keeping their homes, very concerned about finances, and here's an opportunity for them to be children again, when you showed some of the footage of the people going into macy's it really reminded me of people going into an amusement park, they were laughing, screaming, running, and just ready to in many ways pursue that pleasure principle and walk out of there with some sort of a great deal, and in many cases something that they probably didn't even need but to say that they were able to do it. so it is a high for them. it is an event that they enjoy. but sometimes it can go awry. >> jeff, that gets me to what is the retailer's responsibility in all of this? is there a responsibility? should there be employees outside of these doors reminding people, look, it's just a sale, you know, try to keep control of yourself and act respectfully towards your fellow shopper? >> you're right on with that. they use psychological tricks where they pipe in slow music to get people to slow down and buy more. they put scents into the stores so that people can feel good or feel hungry, want to stay in the store longer and tie eating into buying. so why not try to massage the brains of those people who are coming into the stores by pumping in information about being civil and enjoying it, but also enjoying it along with other people so that everyone can have a good and a safe time. >> i think they might need more than a massage, jeff. they might need a couple of glasses of eggnog, perhaps, as well. >> i think so, with a little rum in it. then it might go the other way, who knows? >> that's in the holiday spirit. thanks for bringing that perspective to us. spreesh appreciate it. >> it's beginning to look a lot like christmas at the white house. >> happy holidays. >> the first ladiy, daughters, and the family dog, bo made a brief appearance for the arrive of the white house christmas tree. the 19-feet balsam fir comes from wisconsin and will be displayed in the blue room. president obama stayed out of site but his website was open for business and held a black friday sale of its own. 10% off any purchase of $10 or more which covers just about everything the merchandise ranges from the usual buttons, bumper stickers, t-shirts, grilling spatulas, aprons and dog bowls. not to be outdone, mitt romney tweeted his website will be holding a cybermonday sale also, sign up now, they will e-mail you a coupon that you can use for discounts on monday. just what we all needed. well you don't have to worry about the weather if you are shopping online. but if you're heading to a brick and mortar store or still need to get home from wherever you're spending the holiday, here's cnn's chad meyers with at all-important weekend forecast. i wonder, chad if any of the weather out there was affecting some of the things we were seeing in some of the stores across the country. >> i was going back into the farmer's almanac, looking for full moon. >> there you go. >> jim, wow. it was a great day to be shopping today. clear skies, cool morning, clear skies tonight, no real problems. a developing storm system that will put a bump in your plane ride for saturday and sunday. let me show you what's going on now in the skies. 5,000 planes in the sky right now over north america. the luckiest ones, 20 planes heading to hawaii, that's the place to be. what will happen in the middle part of the country. a storm developing over texas will be a big impactmaker from chicago through st. louis down to the gulf coast for tomorrow. if you are flying tomorrow, across the country from east to west, or the other way, there will be big bumps in your plane ride. nothing the pilot's able to do about it. the jet stream is move like this in a big fashion, 150 mile per hour. the plane's going to be jostled around. if you don't like that, do whatever you have to do, buy some dramamine if you don't like to be bumped around. sunday, the jet does this but makes delays to the east. by sunday and monday, the wind in the northeast will slow down laguardia, newark, jfk. monday morning rain up and down i-59. best day to travel, by car, would be either tonight or tomorrow. by sunday into monday, it's going to be wet, rainy, bumpy, maybe thunderstorms with wind, hail, and not even a tornado out of the question by monday morning. so we'll see that. >> we'll keep a lookout for that. this has been a pretty nice week. on the east coast, spectacular. >> it has been. and it will continue that way all the way through, from i-95, boston down to d.c., and even down to atlanta and florida. it will stay beautiful until sunday night. so get home by sunday night and don't spend that extra night with in-laws if you don't have to anyway, because monday everything will be slow across the east coast. next, late word on what's happening to three u.s. students who were picked up during the week's chaos in egypt. i'm an expert on softball. and tea parties. i'll have more awkward conversations than i'm equipped for because i'm raising two girls on my own. i'll worry about the economy more than a few times before they're grown. but it's for them, so i've found a way. who matters most to you says the most about you. massmutual is owned by our policyholders so they matter most to us. massmutual. we'll help you get there. long-lasting, too. yeah, i could really use this silverado. i'm a big hunter. oh, what do you hunt? 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could they potentially improve the situation in tahrir square? >> reporter: it's anybody's guess what will happen. it's interesting that the ruling army generals have announced they're going to extend voting on monday to a second day, in part they say because of the huge participation of the citizens in these demonstrations, in these rallies we've seen. they'll give egyptians two days to vote in this first phase of parliamentary elections on monday. if you talk to different political parties across egypt, they're split on whether or not elections should go ahead. it's worth noting the muslim brotherhood, one of the most best-funded, best-organized of the political groups here, long time -- in the former establishment here, they have not participated in these protests here in tahrir square, and they definitely want the elections on monday because they predict they're going to win big in that first round of parliamentary elections, jim. >> and ivan, there are new reports of sexual assaults on female journalists in tahrir square. obviously this is going to remind of americans of what happened in tahrir square earlier this year. what can you tell us about what's happened? >> reporter: this is a disturbing trend here, jim. yesterday, a french tv reporter, by the name of carolyn simms was surrounded by 50, mostly teenage civilians who tore at her clothes, sexually assaulted her, effectively raped her, she says for 45 minutes. and also her cameraman. this came a few blocks from where an edescription american writer, mona was attacked not by civilians but by riot police. i spoke with her last night, shortly after she had been released from a hospital. take a listen to what she had to say to me. >> i was surrounded by four, five riot police who just beat the heck out of me with their sticks and then dragged me to the side, inside the barricade, into no man's land and started to sexually assault me, and groped my breasts, put their hands in between my legs, i lost count of the number of hands that tried to get into my belt. i was pulling hands out from my belt saying no, no, trying to push them away, but being -- the beatings continued as i was trying to push them away, as i was trying to push their hands away, and they were dragging me by my head to thement industry, because the ministry's a few minute as way. one way to describe it like a bunch of wild beasts finding their prey. >> reporter: here in tahrir square with the demonstrators, despite the fact that in that assault the police broke her arm and her hand. she said she was here to support what she calls a revolution against dictatorship but also a revolution against sexual assault in egypt. these attacks have prompted the group reporters without borders to issue a warning to female journalists to be here in tahrir square which irritated some female colleagues. but vie to say a few months ago i saw another assault, a mob attack on an egyptian-american television producer where i was feet away could not stop the crowd. they tried to tear this woman apart. she barely escaped with her life. it's a disturbing trend. women are trying to stand up against this type of injustice. >> ivan watson, thanks so much. reminder of not just the difficult situation in tahrir square but the journalists covering that story as well. thanks so pump. three u.s. college students who spent the week in custody should be home tomorrow. one attorney confirmed they left the police station, and a relative says all three are headed for the airport and separate flights to the u.s. the three were accused of throwing molotov cocktail monday. one woman tells cnn her son adamantly denies they did anything wrong. the bloody chaos in egypt. will it make a difference? 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