16 and under. >> this is why we need more women in leadership. >> those stories and more in a packed hour ahead. let's get you up to speed with the news you need. deadly violence today at the university already infamous as the scene of mass murder. virginia tech, 33 mats kerr massacred in 2007. today shots rang out again, a frightened campus immediately lockdown. a gunman approached a campus police officer in his vehicle area shot the officer dead. the gunman was seen running towards a parking lot where a second body was found a short time later. was it the gunman or someone else? still unknown tonight. here's what they said at the news conference a short time ago. >> you consider this case other than figuring out the details is basically closed. >> i wouldn't say closed, no. >> harm to the public -- >> i would say when the university lifted the alert they consulted with several people and they felt like it was safe to have the students and faculty go about the rest of their day. >> virginia tech officials say the alert system they put in place following the 2007 massacre worked quite well. in pennsylvania, jerry sandusky back home. the former penn state football coach posted a quarter million dollar bail and released from custody. he was put in cuffs for the second time yesterday accused of new child sex abuse charges. the two new alleged victims came forward, as they came forward, sandusky's wife said, i continue to believe in jerry's innocence and all of the good things he has done. i'm asking everyone to be reasonable and open-minded until both sides of this case are heard. joining us on the phone tonight from pennsylvania, sara gan om, from the patriot news. what is the significance of her making a public statement and how important is she in the court of public opinion and potentially in the court of law? >> you're right, we have not much heard from dotty sandusky up to this point. that is the significance of the statement she issued tonight. even though we haven't heard from her, she's been the subject of a lot of conversation, especially today, one day after new charges were filed against her husband and the grand jury present. that came along with the new charges talked about her a lot. dotty sandusky was mentioned in the first presentment, almost kind of in passing. some direct evidence about her role that she might have played in this but really this latest grand jury presentment specifically says that one of the victims said he cried out for help from the basement while he was being assaulted hoping dotty would come and help him but no help came. her statement today seems to be a response to that and really a response to a lot of people talking today about what role she might have played in this. >> a little bit more from her statement where we move on. i'm sad anyone would make a terrible accusation which is absolutely untrue. sara, you're on the phone because you're at the central mountain high school for a school board meeting. help our viewers understand why the questions tonight could be so important, including a controversy at this school, correct? some students were allowed to leave with jerry sandusky? >> that's correct, john. that had been controversial. another thing they have come under scrutiny for was the response when victim 1 came forward, he was the first one to come forward. he was a student here. he says and his mother says that he came to the principal's office -- he was being abused by jerry san dusdy who was a volunteer football coach and the principal told the family to go home and think about what they wanted to do. we haven't heard much from the school up until this point. i did talk to the board president and they are not going to issue a statement today. they were thinking about and they say their attorneys told them it wasn't a good idea. the public meeting doesn't call for questions but he did tell me this. he said we are comfortable with our response. that gives you an idea of what page they are on right now. i don't think we'll be hearing as much from them as we expected we might tonight. >> sara ganim, thanks for your help tonight. it's a mystery on top of a mystery. look at what iranian tv is showing, it's said to be the drowned u.s. spy drone. it appears to be in pretty good shape. but is that really an american spy drone? for that let's bring in chris lawrence. straight up, initially the pentagon assumed this was shot down or whether it lost flight control the iranians recovered it. your sources telling you when they see these images what? >> that they are not so sure now. it's a great question to raise when you consider iran is believed to be the country that once welded oil drums together and claimed they had a sophisticated russian missile system. in this case you're getting different opinions from officials and analysts alike. one aviation expert i spoke with says he thinks it's real. he accounts for the good shape by saying, look, it was not shot down and could have glided to earth in what he calls a falling leaf pattern that would have left it relatively intact. another anl sift says this is nothing more than a parade float. he said the wings when you look at these images side by side, he said the wings on the iranian video droop lower whereas he said most of the images we've seen of this drone, the wings are positioned higher for better stability. in one u.s. official said flat out, these drones are not designed to survive a crash like that intact. he says the u.s. had satellite footage of the wreckage and it showed that the drone sustained significant damage. >> chris lawrence live at the pentagon. i'm a tad suspicious but what do i know? it is a fascinating question. thank you. >> you're welcome. >> different and disturbing news from the pentagon tonight. the air force admits it never initially bothered to determine, get that, the number of american military remains that were buried in a virginia landfill. now says the number is substantially higher than first thought. military now says body parts from 274 killed service members initially sent to dover air force base were cremated then buried in a landfill with medical waste. an additional 1700 body fragments were never identified. in massachusetts, occupy boston protesters face ag midnight break down to their camp. police will take action if the protesters are not gone. a make shift library and food tent were broking down but some of the demonstrators are debating whether to test that deadline. >> a major showdown between the white house and republicans. the gop blocked the president's choice to lead a new consumer watch dog agency. they want to scale back the powers first. but they he says too often take advantage of consumers. >> this is a big deal. one in five people use these kinds of mechanisms to finance everything from buying a house to cashing their checks. and we passed a law last year that said we need this consumer watch dog in place to make sure the people aren't taking advantage of it. >> the payroll tax cut playing out on capitol hill tonight. democrats and republicans contested competing plans in the senate but neither has enough votes to pass. with no compromise in sight, the president says he's likely to scale back his vacation plans, stay here in washington and urge congress to keep at it. >> so i know some of you might have been looking forward to a little sun and sand, but the bottom line is that we are going to stay here as long as it takes to make sure that the american people's taxes don't go up on january 1st and make sure that folks who desperately need unemployment insurance get that help. >> more on is that story in a minute. newt gingrich was in south carolina, one day after our new poll showed the former house speaker with a big lead in that state. gingrich said he would relish a contest with president obama. >> if watch the speeches, they are totally left wing radical, class warfair, bureaucratic socialist speeches. it's a respectable position, it's just wrong. i happen to believe in the declaration of independence and constitution, adam smith, the wealth of nations and idea of creating jobs. >> texas governor rick perry was in south carolina today. mount pleasant to be exact. his focus on military issues and social conservatives. >> i think it's important for americans of faith to be engaged in the public arena. the first amendment says we're going to have freedom of religion, not freedom from religion. >> in iowa, a major investment by supporters of mitt romney, a so-called super pack launched a new tv ad in iowa today and cnn is told the spending will surface $2 million. >> how many jobs did barack obama create as a community organizer? as a law professor? maybe now you see the problem. mitt romney turned around dozens of american companies and helped create thousands of jobs. >> back here in washington, congressional republicans grilled eric holder today threatening impeachment and accusing him of withholding information on fast and furious. the failed mission was supposed to track guns going across the border into mexico and into the hands of mexican drug cartels instead some of the guns used in crimes including against u.s. border agtsz. congressional republicans grilled eric holder and the man in the hot seat seemed to take a page out of bill clinton's play book arguing legal definitions. >> if you want to have this legal conversation, it has to do with your state of mind and whether or not you had the requisite intent with something that would be considered perjury or a lie. >> republican house member james sensenbremer, a bit more direct. >> the answers you have given so far are basically saying, gee, somebody else did it and there is really no responsibility within the justice department. you know, the thing is that if we don't get to the bottom of this and that requires your assistance on that, there's only one alternative that congress has. and it's calledi impeachment. >> the inspector general's office has to issue a report on that investigation. he's a long shot so far but beginning to pick up steam. jon huntsman right here. the employee of the month isss... the new spark card from capital one. spark miles gives me the most rewards of any small business credit card. the spark card earns double miles... so we really had to up our game. with spark, the boss earns double miles on every purchase, every day. that's setting the bar pretty high. owning my own business has never been more rewarding. coming through! [ male announcer ] introducing spark the small business credit cards from capital one. get more by choosing unlimited double miles or 2% cash back on every purchase, every day. what's in your wallet? jon huntsman urged republicans to take a second look at the two candidates now dominating the gop presidential race. >> governor romney will say anything to earn the voters' trust. we are in this mess because there are already enough people in washington who make a career out of telling people what they want to hear. newt gingrich is a product of that same washington, who participated in the excesses of our broken and polarized political system. >> here's the short version. >> we have a choice between a panderror in chief, lobbyist in chief or commander in chief. i want to be commander in chief. >> just before that speech governor huntsman paid a visit. >> a fairly tough speech, you say governor romney will say anything and newt gingrich was part of the polarization, tough words, clear contrast. a lot of people would say, where you been, what took you so long? >> we were talking about the economic deficit and you can't have a complete discussion without talking about the second deficit which is a trust deficit. i would argue, it's equally corrosive in this country. you can't just handle the economic deficit while leaving the trust deficit untouched. we need a leader that can hit that head on, calls for congressional reform and somebody to take on the banks on wall street. >> why don't the voters trust you, if you will? if you look at the polling data, you spent most of your time in new hampshire. we have brand-new numbers out, romney 35, gingrich 26, paul 17, huntsman 8% in the state of new hampshire. why? >> they trust us enough to go up in every single poll, this one put out the last month or two. we're going up. the trajectory is right if you look at three or four years ago where people were. the voters of new hampshire they don't coalesce around a candidate until ten days out. i suspect we'll take our arguments to the people there about the economic deficit and trust deficit and a lou them to make a decision and we're connecting. >> one of our contributors eric erickson writes this, what's so tragic about the huntsman race, he has the boldest recovery plan and best jobs creation record of anyone in the race with the exception much rick perry and he has run away from that to be the guy who doesn't defend the women of the "the view." george will who has been around the track a few times wrote this this past sunday. jon huntsman chose to debut as the republican for people who rather dislike republicans but his program is the most conservative. do you second guess your strategy? >> what is happening in the marketplace, a lot of people who didn't give us a first look are coming around to look at my record and years of service and saying he's exactly what we're looking for. they overlooked us at the beginning because they said he crossed a partisan line and served as united states ambassador to china in a democratic administration. i say i always put my country first. >> did you encourage that a bit by saying i'm going to be civil and be mr. nice guy and not stressing the more conservative parts of your record. if they said he was barack obama's ambassador, did you not maybe reinforce their difference? >> when you come out on the stage, it takes a while for the record to be seen and absorbed by people. so after a few months, people are looking at the record and saying, this is what we've been looking for. they've gone through six front runters and with five weeks left, the timing is exactly right. they are giving us a legitimate first look. i think they will like what they see. >> if you look at the numbers today it's easy to be skeptical about your approach. if you look at the volatility, i don't rule anything out as we go forward. one of your catch phrases is that you are the consistent conservative in the race. i want you to listen -- this is jon huntsman on abc back in august saying that you think many republicans have it wrong when it comes to climate change. >> when we take a position that basically runs counter to what 98 of 100 climate scientists have said, what the national academy of sciences has said about what is causing climate change and man's contribution to it, i think we find ourselves on wrong side of science and therefore in a losing position. >> jon huntsman making the case, listen to science there is climate change and man has a significant role in it. here's jon huntsman earlier this week in washington. >> they owe us more in terms of a better explanation of what might lie beneath all of this. tlsz not enough information to form late policies in terms of addressing it overall? >> that a retreat? >> not at all. scientists weighed in on the body of knowledge they work on for a living, i say i'm going to be with science. might have 1% who dispute that and i say the discussion will continue. >> you say you need more information, there's not enough information right now to fo formulate policy. as governor you were part of the western regional compact on this issue that included cap and trade. do you think that's a good idea? >> i think dealing with emissions is a good idea. governor romney, newt gingrich, we're all talking about the same thing, the economy implodes and cap and trade which was a free market based system in the old days of the clean air act kind of morves into a tax scheme. it doesn't work when you're trying to get your economy back on its feet. >> if you were president -- only a crazy people who kill -- what we've watched over months and videos of syrian troops beating his own citizens that he had nothing to do with it and it can't be happening in his country and it isn't happening because of his leadership. what a president huntsman do to get assad to step down or force him to? >> i say you look at the numbers. you've got 10,000 refugees living in turkey and 4,000 of his own people who have been killed. you've got a relationship with iran that is deeply troubling in terms of pipeline between tehran an damascus. the flow of support to hamas and hezbollah. i say -- i would start by supporting the exiled government. i would give support to the exiled government and work whatever means diplomatic and covert that were available to lend support to the groups that share our values. because we need more people that share our values like israel in the middle east. >> thank you for your time. >> ahead a senate republican's unwittingly helping the president find his voice. an unprecedented use of power that has social conservatives heaping rare praise on the obama white house. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] everyone deserves the gift of a pain free holiday. ♪ this season, discover aleve. all day pain relief with just two pills. they won't be beat. oh, actually... then i'd be like, you rule! and my kids would be like, you rule! oh, load up the sleigh; this is going to be a great christmas. [ male announcer ] more christmas for your money, guaranteed. not quite knowing what the next phase was going to be, you know, because you been, you know, this is what you had been doing. you know, working, working, working, working, working, working. and now you're talking about, well you know, i won't be, and i get the chance to spend more time with my wife and my kids. it's my world. that's my world. ♪ unprecedented obama administration decision to limit access to emergency contraception is creating a rare political divide. social conservatives are praising the white house and liberals are furious. at issue is whether a medication referred to as a morning after pill should be available without a prescription to women under the age of 17. the food and drug administration said yes, recommending the plan b pill be made available as an over the counter medication to everyone. current policy requires those younger than 17 get a prescription. health and human services second kathleen sebelius overruled the fda recommendation, something that has never happened before. though president obama said he had no direct role in this decision, some liberal groups believe the white house wanted to duck an election year fight over parental rights and birth control. here to debate the politics, tiffany, the president of the white house project, an organization aimed at advancing women's leadership opportunities and jeanny monohan. i've seen a lot of e-mails and other liberal organizations calling this a betrayal by the democratic president. is that right? >> i've been married to a fabulous man for 15 years. in that timize done things i haven't liked. we're making sure this doesn't happen again. a lot of my colleagues, including myself were stunned because this is not consistent actually with the track record of the administration. >> why do you think they did it? >> well, i don't read the white house memos but there's a lot of talk about politics and about the political fallout that would occur in 2012. listen, this is a really interesting game that we've got to play here in washington and across the country and part of the role of the white house project is to encourage women to actually get in the game and actually pursue their ambitions, whether they are in politics or business. this is one of the things that often creates a barrier to women getting