and ted nujagent, the rock and roll wild man who gave the world this. a man of very strong opinions, is a passionate tea party supporter. >> we the people are supposed to have crowbars and use them. pay attention, bureaucrats, we're coming to get you. >> gun toting rocker. >> more guns equallies less crime. >> and he's no friend of barack obama. >> the white house today is the fan club. >> tonight, ted nugent literally no holds barred. >> perfect, huh? >> this is "piers morgan tonight." -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com good evening. we know now the name of the mother of schwarzenegger's love child. born just days after maria shriver gave birth to her youngest son to the former governor. the divorce papers obtained by cnn say the couple separated less than three weeks after the birth. according to the document, she is a 50-year-old native from guatemala. take a look at these pictures on taked from tmz. the first one shows them at a private party three years before she gave birth to his child. second shops baena dressed for a halloween party. and the final picture shows baena baby shower in her home when she was eight months pregnant. meanwhile, a source tells cnn arnold schwarzenegger has three upcoming movie deals and is set to shoot a drama this summer. however, the source says, schwarzenegger's put the other two movie projects on hold to concentrate on this family crisis. i want to bring in now a news director of the hollywood reporter. matt, extraordinary story this. anyone see this coming? >> no, certainly not. there have been rumblings about arnold and maria a lot of people had heard but this was certainly a surprise in hollywood. >> the bizarre thing for me, and i touched on this last night, is that the sequence of events appears to be the housekeeper left. we're not quite sure under what circumstances. whether she retired or was fired. there are various rumors. in january. and at that point, arnold schwarzenegger told maria shriver the true story about the birth of his child 14 years before. here's the odd thing. you would have the impression that all hell's broken loose between them. yet i saw the schwarzeneggers together, maria and arnold, in los angeles at a restaurant about a month ago. inhad a chat with both of them. they were both very friendly. they both seemed very friendly to each other. that was clearly some time after this bombshell had all come out. so what are we to make of all this? >> well, he is an actor. there's been talk of them having problems for a while. but the interesting thing is that he has been been very active in trying to start his movie career going again since he left the governorship. he's been out there within hollywood trying to drum up support for a couple of movie projects. he wants to restart the terminator franchise. there's been nothing about this at all until the revelations. >> can always go one of several ways when scandals hit lowell wood stars, you know, mel gibson, saw his comeback movie didn't do great recently. he's got over projects in the pipeline. others we've seen either triumph after disasters like this in their personal lives or they just go to pieces and that's the l.a. we hear from them. where do we see arnold schwarzenegger's position here? >> arnold's an interesting case because he does have sort of a larger than life persona on the screen. he's always been sort of above any of the issues in his personal life. but he's always had this stable marriage that he's had. so the question is whether people are going to follow him to his next projects. and in my opinion, i think they probably are. this will probably blow over. and if the work that he does, if the movies are good and if they're the kind of movies the public wants to see him in, they'll probably come back. >> what are the projects that arnold schwarzenegger's currently considering? >> there's a couple. he's already done something called a governator which is an animated series about a superhero who hides his secret life from his wife. he's got that already done. that will probably be out soon. he's doing this drama called crime macho which starts shooting this summer. and it's really an attempt by him to broaden what his persona on screen is. it's a drama. he plain plays a horse raiser, e trainer. he really hopes this will allow people to see him in a different light than sort of the big macho action star which at his age he can't keep playing. then he's also trying to restart the terminator movies. he wants to do another one. there's active development on that. they have the director of the "fast and the furious" movie, latest one, attached to do that one. that one is up in the air. it's not necessarily certain they'll do another terminator. this comes at a very vulnerable time in his career. >>, you kno you know, think the overriding question will be how maria shriver. which seems to suggest to me she's come to terms with it. although it's been an appalling situation for her to discover that she and arnold actually from what i saw appeared to be getting on pretty well despite this all coming out. i think if she continues to not be publicly anti-him then i would imagine his movie career could be perfectly okay, couldn't it? >> yeah. i mean, it's hollywood. it's not politics. it's hollywood. people have a long history of supporting people's public work when their private lives aren't exactly exemplary. if the product is there and the work is good and people want to see it, they're more willing to look beyond the personal stuff. in the case of mel gibson, his latest movie was "the beaver" which is sort of an odd dramatic move for him and people weren't quite sure what the movie was and they were unwilling to take that risk because, in my opinion, his personal stuff. if arnold does the kind of movies people want to see, then they're going to come back. >> thank you very much. i now want to turn to the case making held lines around the world. the imf chief has a bail hearing in new york tomorrow. currently being held on rikers island. sources say he will post $1 million cash bail. also be placed under 24-hour home detention. joining me now is a defense attorney, roy black, and defense attorney alandershowitz. everything you're hearing tonight of this offer that's come forward from strauss-kahn's attorney, does it seem to be the kind of deal you would expect to be accepted, that he will be released on bail tomorrow? >> well, i would think so. it's pretty reasonable. putting up that amount of money. wearing an ankle bracelet. live new york. having private security be sure you're there. that's tape caa typical kind of package. >> there's obviously huge conjecture from the french that he's in some way either been set up or he's been victimized by the media. that there shouldn't have been these images of him. has he been treated any differently? >> he's treated equally poor that we treat everybody in our criminal justice system. in new york particularly, they love this perp walk. the police have a deal with the tabloids. they'll parade you in front of them with handcuffs on. they keep you up all night. you don't shave. you look horrible. so they have wonderful photographs for the front page of the tabloids every morning. unfortunately, we do that with almost everybody. so of course the french are very outraged to see this violation of privacy because they put a lot of stock in that. >> alan dershowitz, it does some pretty extraordinary. the journalist in me says great, you know, very happy they do this and we get these great images and we can all feast on them in the media. but in terms of this guy, his reputation, he has an incredibly powerful job, if you take the presumption of innocent till proven guilty, it's pretty unfair, isn't it? >> it's very unfair. it's very deliberate. it's intended to present him as guilty, and as looking predatory in the worst possible light. if he's granted bail, as he should be granted bail tomorrow, he will then be able to appear not in public but appear in photographs looking like he used to look and perhaps presenting himself in a more credible way. i think he will get bail because in addition to everything else, he has waived extradition so that if he were to escape and the united states would seek extradition, we wouldn't run into the roman polanski problem, which is the big problem that faced him originally. because the french would be very sympathetic to him and probably wouldn't extradite him. now that he's waived extradition, and i read his bail papers tonight, and in his own affidavit he explicitly waives extradition, seems to me there's no real basis for believing he's a flight risk and that's the only criteria which would justify him being held. >> tell me, alan, from all the evidence that you've seen so far, and we haven't seen the whole picture what kind of case are we looking at here do you think? if you were defending him? you defended some pretty lively characters in the past. would you feel confident at this stage of defending this successfully? >> no, i would not feel confident. one never feels confident. at this stage of a case. at the moment, there are many things that the defense should avoid. they should avoid publicly coming out with inconsistent defenses. for example, saying on the one hand, he wasn't there, he was having lunch with his daughter, the time line isn't correct. on the other hand, if he was there it was consensual. before you express what you think your defense might be, you better know what all the evidence is. what the forensic evidence is. what the testimonial evidence is. the other thing you don't do is try to diminish the value, the worth of the alleged victim in this case, mparticularly since she's in a very much lower status than the defendant in this case. look the hope of course is kobe bryant. that maybe a deal could be made. maybe a civil settlement can be worked out in advance with the alleged victim. and therefore the pressure on the prosecution to keep the case going would be diminished. i would think that's the best tactic. and wait to of course push that tactic forward is to come out with good defenses. coupled with the lack of enthusiasm that the victim might have for bringing the case. that would be the best approach i think. >> edward black, when you hear what alan dershowitz said there, do you agree with him in terms of the tactics? >> not necessarily. there's only one defense in this case, and that's consent. look what they claim happen hearse. they claim he's naked in the bathroom. as soon as the maid comes into the room, without even looking at her, he jumps out of the bathroom and supposedly drags her into the bedroom and fores her to have sex. now that doesn't seem particularly logical to me. what i will do, forget about bail right now, i would rent that hotel room, i'd put a forensic team in there, tear it apart inch by inch. i get every piece of clothing my client had. i'm going to photograph his body. every square inch of it. i'm going to put somebody to live in the same apartment building where that woman is. and i want to find out how she hired this high-powered p.i. lawyer who's going to file a civil suit for her. i don't think sitting back helps at all. you got to be aggressive in these cases. >> agree with that completely. of course the police already have done that. they have cut out a piece of rug, looking for dna. you know, you should always look for all the evidence in the case. but you should anticipate the evidence may not in the end help your client. and, therefore, yes, be aggressive in an investigative way, but don't be aggressive in putting forward a defense which in the end will backfire and hurt your credibility and the credibility of your client. so yes, be active, but be active, consistent with the evidence and the facts in the case. >> alan dershowitz. >> we do cases together. alan's exactly right about that. i guarantee you, the police have overlooked loads of stuff in that suite. you've got to get your hands on that hotel suite. >> i've got to leave it there. it's absolutely fascinating story. twists and turns with every day. and we will doubtless find out more tomorrow. gentlemen, thank you very much. when we come back, the man they call the motor city mad man. ted nugent stops by for a quite extraordinary, dare i say explosive, encounter. ♪ you love money ♪ well, you know i love it too ♪ ♪ you love money ♪ well, you know i love it too ♪ ♪ i work so hard at my job ♪ and then i bring it home to you ♪ ♪ i love money in my pocket host: could switching to geico 15% or more on car insurance? 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>> before i gutted him and danced on his skull, i was so hospitable loving and welcoming him to the nugent tribe that when he tried his little tricks on me and his leftist thing against my hunting and guns for example, how could i not get him? i gutted him with tender loving care and truth and logic. even at the end, he probably went uncle. i'm right and he was wrong. the story of my life. >> you have this completely i don't know irrefutable self-logic that everything you say is right. >> yeah, your point would be what? >> my point would be -- do you ever accept you might be wrong? >> mrs. nujant's here. was there a time -- let's put it this way. i'm 63. i've been clean and sober my whole life. i was raised in a hard-core disciplined environment. to be the best that i can be. and not guess at things but to study evidence. study conditions. be aware of my cause and effect. and make a decision not based on what felt good or what was comfortable for me but, rather, what lessons of life taught me. so when i put forth what people call an opinion -- you stop me if you disagree with my opinion, i'm sure you will. but i don't project opinions as much as i do share observations of life's realities and the evidence that brings either a quality of life when adhered and learned from or just a desfrtrod life when ignored and not learned. >> what's your view of america right now? >> my view of america right now is so beautiful i can hardly stand myself. now, that being said, we want to celebrate the good while we scrutinize and put our heart and soul into fixing the bad and ugly. so there's lots of good. americans are still producing and still giving bep have the terrible victims of the floods now in the mississippi. we have the terrible victims of the fires in texas. we have the tragedy of the victims of the tornadoes in the south. you know what i think about america? unlimited generosity. people traveling thousands of miles to help people they don't even know. that's the glowing unstoppable good -- >> what don't you like about america? >> i don't like about america is what is being celebrated in politics, where instead of being the best that you can be, we seem to be engineering more and more safety nets, which creates, encouraging and rewards an uncaring disconnect. >> what do you mean safety nets? >> well, safety nets. welfare for example. welfare isn't just about helping the needy anymore. welfare is about rewarding people who take advantage of the corruption and the abuse of that condition. that's more wide spread than actual needy people getting help. i don't know how often you shop around this country or how often you hang out with people around this country. but it is not like the president said. the america he doesn't know that people are using food stamps for something other than good nutrition. you gotta be kidding me! we got a bunch of idiots out there that are absolutely raping and pillaging an otherwise positive humanitarian system. >> one of the problems -- i've studied your work for a while. >> have you? no wonder you glow. you have a certain glow. >> i don't have a problem with people having opinions. even if i don't agree with some of them. my issue with you and the welfare thing is to me it showed no sense of compassion for people who have genuine problems. genuinely need it. your judgment, if you don't mind me saying is all encompassing. all sweeping. you think they're all on the fiddle. >> no, i don't. i don't think, i know, and statistics support once again my sharing with you the statistic, that the abuse, the corruption in that system, is not about helping someone who through no fault of their own fell on hard times, but widespread abuse. >> -- welfare system for x forces for example. >> certainly i've always raved that the most important, the most deserving, are those -- the children who through no fault of their own encounter horrible diseases and conditions and the heroes the military who literally knowingly went into harm's way to sacrifice their limbs. >> i agree with. i have a brother in the british army -- >> let me put it this way -- >> let me finish my thought on that. i have a brother in the army. >> god bless -- >> that doesn't mean to say they are any less susceptible to being corrupt when it comes to welfare than anybody else, does it? >> no, not at all. in fact, there's a lot of corruption, a lot of waste in even those government programs. inknow a lot of guys. i know a lot of guys. my wife and my family do charitable work for military heroes all the time. i got guys with no legs that went into that war on terror hell storm knowing they would probably come out with no legs or arms. they went anyway because that's the the war yor spirit they have. and they're still waiting for their prosthetics. the special wheelchair. but maybe there's some child rapist in prison who's getting a new liver transplant this week. >> you're very pro the troops. inget that. you yourself, you dodged the draft. >> i'm glad we're here on "the piers morgan show" to set that straight. >> set the record straight. >> no, did i not dodge the trap. i was 17 and i was a clueless idiot. >> i was quite suave. >> being that as it may, no, i was enrolled in oakland community college. i had a one wide deferment. did i register -- i registered. did i volunteer? no. should i have? yes. >> do you regret that? >> you know, i do regret it on one level. on the most important, fundamental level, is that i have a duty to earn this experiment in we the people self-government. i've spent my time and i've intentionally put myself in harm's way going over to iraq and afghanistan, right into hell zones of unnamed trenches in afghanistan danger zones -- >> is part of that a guilt thing on your part? >> not a guilt thing. it was just the right thing to do. at some point, you know, let's pretend i was a heroin addict when i was 17. would you bring that up if i'd been clean and sober for 50 years? >> probably, yeah. >> you're such a bastard. i wouldn't. i would say, my god, you haven't done that stupid thing in so long, let's stick with the clean and sober longevity instead of going back and nitpicking of something you obviously overcame. so i was a foolish young man did didn't understa