i'll also talk about the arrest of bobby brown on a dui charge. plus the passion of ron paul. the only doctor in the race taking on obama care as the showdown begins at the supreme court. and only in america, a very rotten easter egg roll. how bad parents are ruining all the good fun. this ask "piers morgan tonight." good evening. our big story tonight searching for the truth in the trayvon martin tragedy. civil rights leaders and thousands protest around the country. one of two new revelations that have outraged his grieving parents. was he gunned down because he was black? chaka khan has something important to say about it. it's coming up soon. plus natalie cole. i'll talk to her about her own addictions and today's arrest of bobby brown. plus supreme court taking on obama care. a case that affects every single american. ron paul will give me his diagnosis. >> this bill has far reaching consequences for the economic health of this country and for liberty in our society. >> but we begin tonight with our big story. the shooting death of unarmed florida teenager trayvon martin. george zimmerman says he shot in self-defense. tonight a police report leaked. david, it's a confusing picture that gets more confusing by the day. today new evidence from the police report which appears to suggest that zimmerman, the man who's become this hate figure in america, may have been acting in self-defense. what can you tell us about what's happened today? >> well, this came about as an unauthorized leak from somewhere in the investigation. the city of sanford itself is going to launch an investigation to find out where it came from. and popular plier the person who talked to the newspaper about this. but what they were saying was that george zimmerman was not the one who initiated the violent confrontation. they're saying it was trayvon martin who punched zimmerman in the face, knocked him down and beat his head against the ground. of course, when the family heard about this, they were very quick to point out that they had a phone call that they -- a person that trayvon was talking to, a young woman, who was on the phone with him at this point this happened. they're saying her story doesn't correspond with what this leak was saying to the newspaper. they're quick to respond and they're saying very vehemently that they believe trayvon martin's character is being attacked here by leaking this information out. >> also, it's a confusing picture because we're now a month into this story and suddenly these details start to emerge? the police have been under huge scrutiny and criticism and suddenly this stuff starts to leak. which would i guess put them in a slightly better light if george zimmerman is said to be the guy receiving the attack. we've got to remind ourself this boy was 17, a hundred pounds lighter. he had a bag of skittles on him. he was walking to his father's girlfriend's house. and we're now supposed to believe a month into this that he was the aggressor. i mean, how credibly are people taking these police reports? >> well, we do have the reaction from the family. and we do have the reaction from the city. the city did say that that is information consistent with what has been given to the state's attorney. so they were confirming that information. and we're hearing from the family they're having their argument ready to go. saying if you listen to the phone calls -- if you listen to the 911 calls and if you pay attention to what that teenager girl was saying as she was talking to trayvon as this was happening, they say that paints a different picture. you say it's confusing. and it is confusing because george zimmerman has not come out to explain exactly publicly what he feels like happened that night. also the only person alive from that encounter is george zimmerman. police have his account. they say that they were able to go along with his claim of self-defense because witnesses corresponded and said that that backed up what he was saying. at this point, we know what zimmerman was saying that it was self-defense. this was the first time we were hearing these kind of details. it has been a month. that should tell you how police have been keeping this under wraps. and they have been saying things to us all along that demonstrate they have a great deal of confidence in their case. this might be one of those pieces of information that shows us where that confidence is coming from. >> it might. although, of course, there is no witness -- according to the orlando sentinel which revealed this today, there's no witness to the punch which george zimmerman claims was laid on him first. so the witnesses are conflicting as well. david mattingly, thank you very much for now. i'm joined now by chaka khan. chaka, i know you're emotional about this. you're passionate about this. you're angry about this. you've heard what we've just been discussing there. the police leaking coming out suggesting that it may not quite be the picture we think. is it unfair towards george zimmerman to be effectively declaring him guilty? >> well, that is unfair to declare him guilty a month after the whole thing went down. i'm going to knock over everything. a month after. a whole month it happened. this is ridiculous. he should have been immediately looked into for carrying a firearm as a neighborhood watchman. that is, like, ridiculous. when he called into a dispatcher and the dispatcher told him what the situation was, the dispatcher should have told him to immediately stand down if you're carrying a weapon. >> the dispatcher does say on the tape he should not pursue the boy. and he does pursue the boy. there's lots of contradictions there. >> i can't wait to hear the tapes. >> the problem is there are gaps. we've heard some of the tapes. there are gaps here. what is the bigger picture, though, chaka? clearly the black community of america is getting very angry about this. why is that? >> here's the thing. we are sick and tired in america of seeing little children lost and children gone missing and they never make the 9:00 or the 5:00 news. you can go back the last five years. and i don't think -- i think maybe one other kid, black child, a football player was covered on the news. i think there's really something wrong with that. that is the racial aspect of this. because obviously george is not -- george zimmerman is not a white man and neither was trayvon. but there seems to be some kind of -- something going on here. >> i totally share the pain of trayvon martin's parents particularly in relation to stuff leaking out now. there was a trace of marijuana in his school bag. >> they're trying to sully his character. >> but other teachers said he was a good student. he was never in much trouble. trying to portray him as a big troublemaker now, a drug taking troublemaker suits an agenda to try and move people away from the thought that this innocent black child has been killed. >> right. >> yet the facts remain he was unarmed. he had a bag of sweets. >> skittles and a tea. >> and he's a hundred pounds lighter than the guy he's supposed to have held down and beaten up. >> and he was at such close range the bullet flipped him over to his stomach. it's crazy. it's crazy this man has not been taken into custody. i don't care who his father is. >> what do you think of the stand your ground law florida has? to me, coming from britain, this is inconceivable there's a law like this. people can simply shoot people in the streets and say i was acting in self-defense because somebody punched me. it's inconceivable that would be law. in florida, that is the state law. >> it's insanity. >> he wasn't arrested or charged because the law allows that. what do you feel about a justice system that has that law? >> that stand your ground thingy, that law they have in place, i don't understand it. excuse me. i don't get it. i really don't understand it. stand your ground when? what? i mean, they need to really look into that. we need to really know the particulars of that legislation and really know in depth what that really curtails. i'm not sure. >> the right to bear arms, the right to defend yourself. this has been in the constitution. and americans feel very fervently about this. this stand your ground in the street if somebody punches you in the face. even if you assume the worst -- >> he didn't deserve it. >> even if he did having been followed by george zimmerman. if he then turns around and punches him, and you assume that happened, does that give anyone the right to shoot him? >> no. he did not deserve to get shot. absolutely not. it's got to stop. and, you know, it's because of a -- with the boy -- i'm sure the fact the boy was wearing a hoodie, a jacket with a hood on it and there's this profile going on in america where this is a dangerous or this outfit or this -- children wearing these clothes at a certain age are a threat. and so we did -- actually, my birthday was a couple days ago. and it hit me that i was here celebrating another year of life and here this child is dead. >> you've done a video, a record. tell me about this. we're actually going to play it for the first time. >> what i did. this is not anything to make money. it is simply to bring about awareness. >> what's it called? >> "super life." >> let's take a little look at this. we've got a video. ♪ the right to stand tall ♪ i'm going to live a super life ♪ ♪ for the rest of my life ♪ i'm going to live a super life ♪ ♪ super life super life yeah >> i'm trayvon. >> i thought one or the more powerful moments was the president saying it could have been my son. what did you feel when you heard that? >> that was beautiful. that's how we all feel. that's how i feel. whenever i learn of a black child or any child, i love children. all children. it's not -- and the big picture, it's not about racism. in the really big picture, it's about -- i think it's more having to do with how much money you make at the end of the year or something like that. i don't know exactly what it is. >> do you think america is more or less racist since getting its first black president? >> well, i think we've seen some things happening and some things being said about obama. that i think were sort of on the racist side. i really don't think that america has come that far when it comes to stamping out or stopping racism, period. since the end of slavery. because i think we're more cerebral about it. the way it's applied now is smarter. >> hold that thought. we've got to take a break. i want to talk about this black panther group that emerged today with the amount on george zimmerman's head. 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>> i really don't. i think the law needs to intervene and do the right thing. i think zimmerman needs to turn himself into the police department. or they need to arrest him or bring him in and bring in all the witnesses, the girl witness that was there and see what's really going on here. we're tired of this. >> is the anger the fact he hasn't been arrested yet? that seems to be the anger. >> that's just crazy. that's insane. >> do you feel if it had been for argument's sake a 17-year-old white boy and a black man who had killed him, would we be in the same position. >> absolutely not. >> you really believe that? >> i truly believe that. i think you know that. you've lived in this country long enough to know pretty much how it goes. there's still -- i think that young black men are an endangered species for the most part. you know, i had to tell my son and my son and i have had some problems in the not too long ago with guns. i used to worry every night -- >> him actually using a gun? >> yes. well, a gun went off accidentally. it was his best friend. >> what do you say to him? >> well, please son, be careful. and check in with me. let me know where you're going. let me know where you are. call me. at least now he doesn't live nearby. so at least call me two, three times a week just to say i'm okay. you know. because i'm scared for him. >> when you have a country that has elected an african-american president, this incredible change moment in the nation's history. when that happens, it's hard to say that boys like trayvon martin, your son, or other young black teenager boys can't make great lives of themselves. isn't it? >> it's hard to say that. it's hard to say. it's harder to see. it's harder to witness. it's harder to experience. >> so when you say we need to put ourselves into their shoes, put me into their shoes. >> all right. in chicago, for instance, i have a lot of family that lives there. still today they are shooting kids, ten a day. my little cousins, my second cousins, had to move her three grandsons to another state for fear that they would not make it into college. and now they can play outside, ride their bikes and do things like that. it's bad. chicago is one city that if you want to look at stats of kids being murdered in the streets, and nothing being done about it. and i mean, in a lot of the shootings are kids shooting kids. and right now my foundation is doing an initiative to -- for the gun laws to get that to address that situation. because that shouldn't be able to happen. >> i mean, it is a desperate situation. i think the family of trayvon martin, heart goes out to them. >> these are people that work hard. have raised a beautiful child. and everything i could see, and i'm a pretty good judge of character. he seems to be a lovely, lovely boy. a sweet boy. he had some skittles and a tea in his hand for christ's sake. and to try to -- it took a month for them to, like, sully his character. >> that is the position that i think is causing the family such angst. i understand that. you know, took them three days to identify. and taken a month for any details to emerge. you would have thought with such helpful information to the case, somebody would have said this earlier than a month later. >> i agree. >> i think that is one of the reasons it's become such a huge story. >> well, a lot of big stars and big people are really pissed off about this. i really feel strongly about our children. and their safety. this is children of every color. we're concerned about children's safety. on that video you showed a clip of, on 48 hours notice people like angela bassett and loretta devine -- >> your purpose is to do what? 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>> we're talking about big things here, folks. >> that was an ad from ron paul taking a shot at all the etch a sketch uproar. now taking on obama care. front and center in front of the supreme court. ron paul is leer to talk health politics and keeping america great. welcome back. >> thank you. nice to be with you. >> i'd like to thank you for having me in your attack ad. a great personal honor. >> we're going to make you famous. >> let's talk about health care. because i come from a country where everybody gets free health care. i don't understand why all you republicans are so exorcised about a president who wants more americans to get health care. >> tell me what free means. i've never heard of anything being free. it means somebody gets something from somebody else and the government uses force to transfer a service or a good or money from one to another. that's coercion and that's a mandate. it's a dictate. it undermines the concept of freedom and undermines the concept of what america is all about. this is all new for us. last 30 years or so that we've decided that we had to have the government doing this. and the quality of medical care is going down and the cost is going up. and we don't -- we're going to get our lines. we've heard about the long lines in britain and canada to get the medical care. but it's free. as you say. you're kidding yourself if you think it's free. >> what -- let me throw a country like switzerland at you. because they have a health care program. it's just not dissimilar to what obama care is suggesting and it's been very successful. >> well, we've had a successful system here, too, before the government got involved. i don't know enough about switzerland to critique it. but i would say that one thing they don't hav