good evening. in mexico, president obama just finished a major news conference after meeting with president hu jintao of china. the conclusion of the g-20 summit. some of the biggest questions were about the economy. >> if fewer folks are buying stuff in paris or berlin, that means that we're selling less stuff made in pittsburgh or cleveland. >> president obama had a lot more to say about the global economy. meanwhile, more breaking news tonight from egypt. crowds swarming around tahrir square earlier tonight after reports hosni mubarak was clinically dead. his attorney says he's in a coma. the former president was serving a life sentence in prison. now, let's go live to cairo where ben wedeman has the latest. hosni mubarak, who is said to be in a coma. what do you think is the most credible in terms of the status of hosni mubarak's health? >> well, piers, i don't think there's any question that hosni mubarak's health took a turn for the worst today. really since the 2nd of june when he was sentenced to life in prison for not stopping the killing of protesters during the revolution. clearly, he's had a very hard time adjusting to prison life. at first, it looked just like he was unhappy. but his heart has given sort of -- has suffered from it. and now of course he's been rushed to a military hospital by the nile. now, reports we're getting at this point would indicate that his condition has stabilized and he may be improving. what's interesting is really the lack of reaction from most egyptians to the news he was either dead or dying. thousands of people in tahrir square but they were protesting against what is seen as a military coup d'etat by the military forces. at the time, which is about an hour after the news came out, there were just a few journalists in front of the hospital, just a few police and soldiers on the inside. so most people are much more focused on political uproar going on in egypt right now and not so much on either the rumors of death or the death of former president hosni mubarak. >> it seems very recently, obviously over a year ago, we were covering the events tahrir square. so much hope and expectation then. a great new world in egypt. the very dispiriting sights we're seeing today suggests it hasn't gone that way at all. that the military still has this iron grip on the country. there are rival groups squabbling over leadership. it is frankly in chaos, isn't it? >> i wouldn't call it chaos. the streets of cairo are as they always are. chaotic from a traffic point of view. life does seem to go on. you could look at this situation in egypt either as a glass half full or glass half empty. on the one hand, yes, hosni mubarak was toppled, but the regime remains. most of the people who were in the government under mubarak are still there. on the half full side, there has been a fundamental change in the way egyptians look at the affairs of their country. they are engaged. they are politicized as never before. you walk down the street where oftentimes you would see people engaged in discussions about football, about other things, reading the koran. now they debate politics and they read the newspapers. so it has been very much a radical change. maybe not what everybody was hoping and expecting. piers. >> ben wedeman, thank you. here now on both of our big stories. "new york times" op-ed columnist frank burny. the president made this big speech tonight. what he said really in direct response to mitt romney. let's see this. >> well, first of all, with respect to mr. romney's advisers, i suggest he go talk to mr. romney about his advisers. i would point out that we have one president at a time and one administration at a time. >> it seemed to me, as he did, with the heckler reporter the other day, jumping in. he looks a little bit on edge, the president. a little less self-assured and calm. >> he looked really deenergized. one of the whole advantages of being the president, being the incumbent, is you get those settings. the flags behind you. the podium. the international audience. he stroed out there and the cadence of his speech was very slowed down. there was a little of hemming and hawing. he got the first question from the press and answered -- that answer went on and on. he provided this really strange tutorial on european economic dynamics. i don't think that's what he meant to do. he doesn't seem in command. >> that comment about one president at a time, one administration at a time, what did you make of that? >> well, he's talking about the thing that was in the german nurp newspaper. he seems to be trying to make some political hay over romney's advisers criticizing him in the international press. i don't understand that attack because we live in the world of the internet. everyone knows whether you publish something in a german newspaper, everybody knows what sort of criticisms are being made. everybody knows there are huge difference of opinion in this country. i don't understand this whole mini controversy. >> he went it's off his way to say, look, the reason europe matters, is obviously if the economy throughout europe collapse, then american, experts to europe, it's one of the biggest trade partners it has, they also de deteriorate. >> i think what he was trying to do was say to people, i don't have control over everything. this is a very important thing for him to establish during this campaign. he can't evade responsibility for the economy. but he has the right to make clear to people and should make clear to people that not everything rests with him. there are larger factors. there are global dynamics. this are things happening in europe he has virtually no control over. he wants voters to understand that as they assess his economic performance. >> you wrote a great piece in "the new york times." dangling on the precipice of disaster. everyone's like that tight rope walker across niagara falls. >> right. >> everyone's just dangling. maybe falling over. no one's quite sure. always seems to be this kind of chaos everywhere. >> one cliff to the next. >> yeah. what is the sensible way to move forward? what should world leaders be talking to each other about, actually doing, to stop that sense of dangling on the precipice? >> whether we're talking about the future of the euro and all these other governments that need bailouts. entitlement gets so expensive. i mean what we need to do is look five and ten years down the road and make decisions that are responsible for the future and not just expeendant for us right now. in this country, politicses are constantly talking about our children, our children, our children. what amazes and gals me is when we actually make decision, as a country. once things get to our congress. i don't see decisions made that are at all cognizant of the world our children will inherit. >> the kind of vision of a kind of america that actually america was founded on. what is the positive vision for this country? neither of the two protagonists in this election campaign seem to have that clarity of vision for a positive way forward for the country. it's all very negative already. >> it's all very negative. it's all about what's happening tomorrow or what happened yesterday. i think if one of these gentlemen articulates the vision you're talking about, makes a credible case for having the path to that vision and convinces people he has whatever it takes, if there is anything you can do, to break the logjam of congress, that's the man who will win this election. right now neither of them can do this. >> mitt romney's body language perhaps emboldened by a month of pretty good news for him as president obama's slightly hit the skids in terms of his own successful path to re-election. we've watched him today. watch a bit of this. looks like he's got his gander up as we would say back home in britain. >> when i was governor,chw schwarzenegger, fellow republican, came to my state. me was trying to poach jobs from my state to go to california. had a picture of him in a t-shirt flexing his muscles. said, come to california. what am i to do? i put billboards up in his state. it had me in a t-shirt flexing my muscles. it said smaller muscles but much lower tax, come to massachusetts. >> i laughed at that. because to see him in such a relaxed way. very controlled, very safe. only talking to certain media. now you're beginning to see a slightly more confident mitt romney. dare i say human. >> i don't know relaxed is always his best mode. i was just laughing when i saw that because i can imagine the bumper sticker, let me flex my smaller muscles. mitt romney is not so good with metaphor. i think we've learned that. >> obviously the polls say it's pretty close. is this going to be a really aggressive tightly forged contest? >> i do. we could be proven wrong. right now, we have an economy that seems to be improving incrementally. it's very vague. in that uncertainty, you have i think the recipe for a nail biter of an election. >> what about this whole vp issue? this discrepancy about rubio. mitt romney says he was. something's going down. i don't think mitt romney would say he was. if he wasn't taking him seriously as eye a contender? >> i'm going out on a limb and saying i'm pretty sure rubio is not the choice. he doesn't have an enormous amount of experience. coming out of 2008 with all the questions raised about sarah palin he not sarah palin. they have to veer toward a candidate of whom they can say with great certainty this person's ready to take over the presidency day two if that somehow happened. i don't think rubio's going to be the guy. i don't think the romney campaign wants to say that now because they've got a problem with latino voters and you don't want to say to those voters we've taken this latino thoroughbred off the table really, really quickly. >> look on the outside, president obama's track record. he hasn't been bold enough in many areas. you could also say if you're looking at it objectively he put millions of people into health care. he brought in gay marriage. endorsed that publicly. he's just helped, now, the youth of illegal immigrants. he's done some pretty radical stuff. which of course may vote against him. which is the irony of taking these positions on these hot issues. is that in the end they may not be vote winners for president obama. >> the question about those hot issues, in all those issues you were going through, basically identifying some of his strongest constituencies. reaching out to women. to gay americans. to latinos. the question is how is this playing with swing voters. the question bigger than that, political analysts argue about till the cows come home is do you win elections by really motivating and getting your core voters in the greatest numbers to the polls or do you win it with those swing voters who some analysts think are a little mythical. >> or romney's base with these particular hot button issues. that's the question at the moment. coming up, jerry sandusky's wife takes the stand to defend her husband. will sandusky himself test few tomorrow? 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>> i think it's general hospital. actually it could be all my children. >> jerry sandusky's defense attorney early today. the sandusky trial is our other big story. dottie took the stand today and said she didn't witness any abuse but she told the court children often slept over at the house and her husband would go downstairs to tell them good night. joining me now is the former chief of the manhattan d.a. sex crimes unit. and psychologist dr. janet taylor. welcome back. i found that little performance by sandusky's attorney pretty disturbing actually. it's not really a laughing matter this, is it? >> no, i absolutely agree. when i heard about that today, i found the back and forth totally inappropriate. you know, it's like he doesn't get this either. just like jerry sandusky doesn't get this. even if you believe all those victims are lying and his client is falsely accused, this is one serious matter. what are we fooling around with and making comparisons to soap opera? entirely in bad taste. all my children? bad taste. >> inappropriate. dottie sandusky's the fascinating part of this story. no one's really sure what she knew if anything. whether she was willfully blind. whether she jen had no idea what was going on. based on what happened today, what is your take on her involvement? >> i think she's a sweet old lady. she's been married to him for 46 years. stand by your man. a good contrast to if there were two sides to him that potentially he kept her in the dark and had this sweet woman who believes everything he said. and you could see where he had this portrayal as this dotting husband. >> i'm surprised the prosecution didn't go harder. the cross examination seemed relatively soft. was that a deliberate strategy? is there a danger if you go too hard you alienate a jury? >> absolutely. i wasn't surprised at all at that strategy. i think they expect there are a number of jurors who feel very sympathetic for dottie sandusky. the wool was pulled over her eyes. and that even if she saw certain things, that she's repressed them, she just couldn't deal with them. i think they made a smart move in doing it exactly the way they did. >> the defense part of the clinical psychologist who said he diagnosed him with histrionic personality disorder. they feel uncomfortable or unappreciated if they're not the center of attention. two, are often inappropriately seductive. three, they're likely to embarrass friends by excessive displays of emotion. i mean, call me stupid, but this seemed like the greatest excuse i've ever heard. some weird disorder we've never heard of. >> he had a relationship with his wife for 46 years. help was married. personality disorders are the extreme end of the personality traits we all have. i think it's still no excuse for bad behavior. for criminal behavior. he could have a personality disorder. i happen to disagree with this diagnosis. he still has to stand on trial for what he's been accused of, personality disorder or not. >> have you ever heard of this in all your time work in the sex crimes area? >> i had never heard of it. i looked it up. i wonder how they apply to jerry sandusky. about being the center of attention. and acting inappropriately sexually with people. in public. that's what -- not what this case is about. it's about inappropriate sexual behavior in private, in showers and in basement bedrooms. >> typically with this, it's usually peer to peer. i think to mesh that in with what he is accused of in terms of inappropriate behavior, adult to child, to young man, i think is inexcusable. >> what i find absolutely baffling is the fact that -- of course he was having showers with these boys. all guys or older having showers with naked boys of 12 or 13? i've never heard of this before. other than some sexually abusive way. have you? >> i've never heard of it. i do know if you're a coach and the players -- and you come off the field and it's been a hot day, everybody might get in a big group shower and be physically in a big room. but i've never heard of doing that with little boys like that, number one. number two, the coach is down on one end and the kids are down at the other end and they're not touching each other. you've got jerry sandusky showering alone with him, rubbing -- by what he says happened, rubbing up on them, playing soaping games, tickling them. >> i've got three sons who played a lot of sports. if i'd heard any teacher had done that kind of thing, i would have been absolutely enraged and taken immediate action. the collective silence of everybody around these boys is equally baffling. another strange thing has happened. nbc news, we remember, did this interview with bob costas. and the prosecution has now subpoenaed what we didn't see at the time. i don't know why we didn't see this. because it's incredibly significant i think. let's watch a little bit of the interview that didn't air on nbc. >> -- come forward, many more young people who would come forward and say that my methods and, and what i had done for them made a very positive impact on their life. and i didn't go around seeking out every young person for sexual needs that i've helped. there are many that i didn't have -- i hardly had any contact with who i have helped in many, many ways. >> both shaking your heads. nbc i think later played this on some of their affiliates. certainly when you hear that for the first time, as i did last night, you are shocked, because it appeared to be a confession, doesn't it? >> it sounds incriminating. sounds as if he's saying for all the young men i came into contact with, there are some i didn't touch inappropriately. the fact is, if he touched one, that's one too many. it just is denial and manipulation. it's mind boggling. >> as the former prosecutor, i listen to a statement like that and i'm ready to jump down his throat with cross examination -- >> there are rumors swirling that in a last throw of the dice, they're going to put sandusky on the stand. would you do that if you were in that position? >> i think it depends how they've seen the says go in. we think the case went in for the prosecution very strong. that he almost has no choice but to put him on the stand and give it a shot and hope he can hang the jury with one person. but if mr. amendola has a little bit of an odd take on this case if he seems to think he did a really good job on cross and with these character witnesses and