here in new york city. great to have you visiting us. >> pleasure to be here. >> and john is a political comedian, will cain and fdorian nice to have each and every when of you. >> good morning. >> interesting to think it's been a month since trayvon martin killed. >> and two weeks since white people heard about it. >> the story was not that well-known in the media. >> on social media it was making the rounds and finally everyone else picked it up about two weeks ago. >> of course it's our starting point, thousands are expected to make their way to san sford, florida. honoring trayvon martin, and the rally will begin at 4:00 p.m. outside the first united methodist church and the crowds are going to make their way to the civic center which is roughly a half mile away and that's where the city's going to hold a town hall. there are reports that trayvon's parents are expected to speak there, that march comes right after a candlelight vigil held yesterday for martin. there were songs and prayers and more calls for justice. these tributes taking part in cities across the country. churchgoers traded in their sunday best for hoodies. reverend jackson addressed a standing room only congregation yesterday in florida, today live from sanford. nice to see you, sir, thank you for talking with us. we're going to get to the referred janckson in a moment. he's had a chance to sit down and talk to the family members. reverend jackson, can i ask you what you've had a chance to discuss with trayvon's parents, now a month since his killing? you know what? i'm going to stop you there, reverend, because we're having some audio problems. technical difficulties, as they like to say. we'll see if we can fix the techal difficulties and get right to the reverend jackson. it's been interesting to me to see the number of marches this has spawned across the nation and i wonder what the strategy is, a month in, as they continue to pressure for calls for justice, you know, what the next step is going to be. >> well t see, it seems like th many different cries for justice. it is my fervent hope that reverend jackson is, aside from using this as an occasion to get a community mobilized and pursue voter registration which i think is a very patriotic response to this tragedy we've heard disturbing group from the modern black panthers who put a bounty out on zimmerman's head. if there's ever been a chance to appeal for non-violent messages this would be a time to bring back dr. king's message of nonviolence. >> reverend jackson i hope you can hear me. >> i can. >> you just heard john say a moment ago he was hopeful would come out of the marches and the message that the marches give you an opportunity to deliver. what is your point as you continue to address the crowds assembled, in florida or else where? >> i think one point is the man that killed trayvon looked over him, with the gun in his hand and was able to walk away free, like the man who killed emmitt till three weeks later and this is justice delayed, justice denied is humiliatinhumiliating. second, not only should he face a process which he has not faced but the stand your point law shouis an insentive for vigilanteism. given the growing violence in the country there must be revived commitment to revival of battle and assault weapons. we've become much too violent and trigger happy in this country. >> there's a group called the new black panthers that actually are not really related to the original black panthers from civil rights days, the southern poverty law center calls them a hate group. they've offered a bounty for the capture of george zimmerman, that's a horrible development in the case. are you calling for peace and calm and for no retribution or retaliation? >> well, i think finding him is unlikely. he's probably very much in the protection of police. it's the recommission, the civil rights commission giving a real sense of where race relations are in the country and may dust off the report, i thought the president's statement was helpful and sensitive. i thought the department of justice is sensitive. in the meantime the killer is still on the loose and his very absence from a process sends a message of pain that will not go away, won't make these demonstrations get bigger here and around the world. >> dorian you had a question. >> good morning, reverend jackson. yesterday you mentioned trayvon martin was a martyr. what larger systemic issues his case raises for due process of law, for racial profiling, for a range of issues that i think people, that resonate with people as they turn out to marches and vigils across the country. >> you know that for too long, under the rug has put the impact of racial profiling and the criminal justice system. i have three sons. congressman jesse jackson jr., in a car on graduation, stand spread eagle, embarrassed, whon dering what did he do, university of virginia law, grew up in charlottesville, same experience, jonathan, mba, a&t northwestern school of business, same experience. the death of trayvon is painful, but more common than felt to be, and i think that now may be a chance to pull the cover off of just these gaps. we take the biggest hit in the home. the number one in infant mortality, nun one in short life expectancy, number one in unemployment. some focused on the african-american president who is a signal and high profile athletes with you beneath the very near of progress is a hole that is being ignored for too long. >> you had an opportunity to talk to trayvon's parents? what have they told you? you spoke to them last night. how are they doing and what have they updated you on? >> you know, they have lots of pain. it's their baby but amazing strength. every time they hear that tape and finally hear the shot, that shot is on their baby so they feel that intensity, and yet they have a greater sense of social consciousness in terms of this could be a transformative moment to adress the trayvon martins of the country who have been shot and falsely imprisoned in the same way. you think about it, the kid was drug tested and alcohol tested, but the killer was not. how humiliating can that be? that is so typical. that's why in this state, 16% black population, 49% jail population african-american. alabama, 30% black, prison 70% black. and prison labor, this whole dynamic of using blacks as fodder in the prison industrial complex, all of this stuff is coming out, it would not have come out had this not illuminated the darkness. >> reverend jesse jackson, thank you for your time, sir. nice to see you. john, i don't think he answered your question the call for retribution and retaliation for george zimmerman. >> i'm hoping we hear it. i've been disappointed how many friends of mine that describe themselves as liberal are using violent language. >> it's disturbing the bounty on a human being's head. it's sick. >> the opposite of everything dr. king stood for. i hope cooler heads prevail. >> we'll get to talk to natalie jackson, the attorney for trayvon martin's framily and craig sonner, criminal justice attorney and sanford's city manager nor than bona parte jr. first, christine romans has the headlines. >> good morning, president obama and more than 50 world leaders are in soul, south korea for the 2012 summit. the president sent a clear warning to north korea. >> there will be no rewards for provocati provocations. those days are over. >> the president is urging iran and north korea to have the courage to suspend their nuclear weapons programs instead of following "a road to isolation and economic distress." afghan officials say the u.s. paid $50,000 to the families of each villager killed in a shooting rampage and $11,000 to those who were wounded. army staff sergeant robert bales is charged with murdering 17 afghanville annualers, includ r afghanville villagers, and karilyn bales speaking publicly for the first time in an interview with nbc. >> he loves children. he's like a big kid himself. >> he is accused of killing nine children. >> right. >> innocent children. >> it's unbelievable to me. i have no idea what happened, but he would not -- he loves children and we would not do that. >> bales is charged with 17 counts of murder. he could get the death penalty. u.s. military investigators say bales left his base in rural afghanistan twice to carry out the massacres. pope benedict xvi arrives in cuba on his first trip to spanish speaking latin america. the country was owe fficially a atheist state in the 1990s. he asked mexican catholics to boldly promote peace across the country. later in the popemobile he even put on a sombrero. the crowd went wild. >> happy "hunger gamds" and may the odds be forever in their favor. the box office took in a record $155 million in its opening weekend, it's the third biggest opening ever and the best by a movie that's not a sequel, if you add in the nearly 60 million "the hunger games" made outside of this country, they had nearly $215 million and 39% of movie-goers were under the age of 18. >> and may the odds be always in your favor. i saw it last night. it's a little violent for kids, i wouldn't bring a youngish teenish. >> would you make them read the book first? for a pre-teen make them read the book first. >> the books are much more violent. >> reading versus watching really gives thaw distance. thanks, appreciate it. still ahead on "early start" a health care showdown happening in the high court with the decision coming in the thick of an election year. this more than mike dewine, one of the attorneys who is suing the federal government. and a national anthem, hashtag fail, plays a song from the movie borat, the lyrics not so great, in their big moment and we'll leave you with the play list, curtis mayfield. you're watching "early start." >> i put the same song on my list. ♪ [ male announcer ] we know you don't wait until the end of the quarter to think about your money... ♪ ...that right now, you want to know where you are, and where you'd like to be. we know you'd like to see the same information your advisor does so you can get a deeper understanding of what's going on with your portfolio. we know all this because we asked you, and what we heard helped us create pnc wealth insight, a smarter way to work with your pnc advisor, so you can make better decisions and live achievement. ♪ i'm going to jackson, i'm gonna mess around ♪ ♪ yeah i'm going to jackson, look out jackson town ♪ got to love a little johnny cash in the morning, off of mike dewine's play list, it's called "jackson" obviously. you can see our entire list on cnn.com/startingpoint. in less than three hours the supreme court will hear arguments on at fordable care act, the bill signed into law two years ago by president obama. 26 states are challenging the law and arguments are scheduled over the next three days. first up today, should the case be heard at all or wait until 2015 after the individual mandate portion takes into effect. the obama administration feels good about their chances on this case. >> we're confident it will be upheld. you had democratic and republican jurorists held it in two decisions. >> republicans are hoping for a different outcome. >> the process was bad, the substapts gone over like a lead balloon. the vice president whispered to the president when he signed the bill two years this is a big f-ing deal and now it's a big f-ing mess for the country a whole. >> kind of too early for that talk. >> just par for the course. >> on cable, apparently. >> i hate when lindsay graham gets ghetto. >> glad he didn't use the whole word. let's get to mike dewine, attorney general of ohio, one of the states suing in this case. >> good to be back. >> thanks for your musical choice. two thumbs up for you. so obviously today is in the big picture about whether or not the court should take up this case. what do you think will happen here? >> here we are, waiting for a couple years and the lower courts have made their decisions and they've kind have been all over the place. now it's where we knew it would get, the united states supreme court. >> you could wait, though. you could have skipped and let it go into effect and then suing after that. why not wait until i think it's 2015? >> i don't think this is in anyone's interest to have the matter continue on. the obama administration finally figured that out as well so everybody's on board. the supreme court needs to decide this and we need to figure out where we're going as a country. >> let's walk everybody through, through sort of what will be the biggest argument which i think will be tomorrow which we'll get to the individual mandate really the most controversial part of the bill. the argument is whether or not congress can make laws and for those who support, they think that is the individual mandate constitutional is the big question there. people who want to uphold it would say congress is regulating commerce and people who want to strike the law in case of insurance if there's no purchase, there's no actual commerce happening, and then people's answer to that who would like to uphold the law say if you're not buying, that still counts as an action to the cost of some $60 billion or so. that's a very rough outline of how that would go. why do you think in your mind it's so clear this does not fall under the jurisdiction of congress, sir? >> well, if this is upheld, if congress can do this, there's really no limit to what congress can do. this would be the furthest stretching of the congress clause we've ever seen in over our 200-year history of this country. if congress can compel you and me and everyone who is watching to buy a particular product, in this case, health insurance, there's no limit to what they can compel you to do under the guise that this is regulating interstate commerce. what we have is a situation where people are doing nothing. they're not engaging interstate commerce, they're not buying anything. they're sitting back and doing nothing and congress is coming along, the president's coming along and saying well, but that really is engaging in interstate commerce, and so what's troubling i think is that the obama administration in their arguments so far have really not delineated any limit to this power. there's just no limit to what they could do in the future, a future congress, a future president can do. it's about liberty, it's about state's rights. it's about fundamental relationship between the federal government and the state government, and the federal government and the people, and their liberties. >> lenny curry is with us, of course the chairman of the florida republican party and your state, of course, has peaed in on this lawsuit as well and i'm curious to know what the strategy is when you look at all the other things that congress actually does mandate. if the neary is as we heard from mr. dewine, where does it end you have to buy, jeff toobin was saying cars have to be made with seatbelts. you have to get medicare, medicaid, you have to pay your taxes, those are mandated federally. will cain is shaking his head no. why am i wrong? >> philosophically a bigger request he, requiring someone to purchase a service or product by virtue of the fact they're alive and breathing, is the federal government beginning to control what is produced and consumed and republicans believe free enterprise is the best way forward. free enterprise is what lifted more people out of poverty in the history of the world than any other economic program in the way that folks operate. so this philosophically it's about the constitution, but fife of soically, do we believe government should control goods, services and production or free enterprise and individuals and businesses. >> go back to our last question to mike dewine before i lose him. what is the biggest challenge, today, tomorrow, wednesday? >> the big day probably is tomorrow, the individual mandate, that is where the focus has been but the court, you know, could make a decision not to really hear the case at all. i don't think they're going to. the obama administration wants this heard and the states want it heard. i think tomorrow the individual mandate where most of the discussion has been, that's where the action is and where game will be. >> the world will be watching closely, the supreme court negotiating over health care. thank you, we appreciate your time, mike dewine the ohio attorney general. ahead on "starting point," trayvon martin's parents attorney joins us. a big gold medal winner but not playing the real version, borat's version. how do you like her face? 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if your bank takes more money than a stranger, you need an ally. ally bank. no nonsense. just people sense. ♪ the national anthem of kazhakstan, that's our "get real" except it wasn't the real an they will. a member received a gold medal at the arab championships in kuwait, had her hand standing listening to the national anthem and realizes it's not the real national anthem. someone had played the wrong anthem, they played borat's version. in borat's version he boasts about the, it's a parody, boasts about cleanliness, i'm being careful of the nation ed process "daily dose" -- i can't get into the lyrics because they're crazy. they downloaded it from the web and kazhakstan has called it a scandal, i should point out it was across the board the are on shooting schmps also got wrong the serbian national anthem, eventually they redid the entire ceremony with the correct anthems but that is as you said sad but funny but not funny. >> still upset over borat. >> they got the serbian national anthem wrong as well? >> yes, so it was just poorly done on all fronts apparently. moving on, still ahead on "starting point," the attorney for trayvon martin's family will join us life, talk about what the family is looking for, one month since trayvon was killed. rick santorum, he night need a miracle to win the nomination but stepping up his attacks on mitt romney, saying he's the worst republican to pick, ever. you're watching "starting point." we'll talk about that, straight ahead. ♪ [ male announcer ] for our families... our neighbors... and our communities... america's beverage companies have created a wide range of new choices. developing smaller portion sizes and more low- & no-calorie beverages... adding clear calorie labels so you know exactly what you're choosing... and in schools, replacing full-calorie soft drinks with lower-calorie options. with more choices and fewer calories, america's beverage companies are delivering. ♪ i love this song, lenny curry i love that song, will smith "just the two of us." other stories to get to first this morning, christine has that. >>