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morning. >> good morning, soledad, new video into cnn, homes entirely up in flames overnight in colorado, colorado springs. 32,000 people are on the run. the fire now roaring and unchecked and spread to 6200 acres and only 5% contained. the largest of the fires in that state is the high park fire, burning since june 9th. that fire has destroyed 257 homes, just epic fires in colorado. the only way back home by boat, debby now downgraded to a tropical depression, but still dumping a dangerous amount of rain over florida. 25 inches has come down in some areas around the coast. people are starting to come back to homes that are a total loss. >> the water was up this high. on the doors, everything inside the garage was floating. everything -- there was a walkway in the center and everything was stacked on the side. the water came up to crash down in on itself. >> the storm is expected to bring rains for another day as it heads to the atlantic. rob marciano has the latest on the storm. >> tropical depression so it weakened a little bit but the strength has never been an issue. the heaviest flooded areas across northern tier, most of the streamers left over from debby will be across central and southern florida. 10 plus, and in some cases 20 inches of rain across the northern part of the pen nis la. the expected track is it will move out to sea and maybe become a tropical storm once again but we'll be done with it soon. the heat the other big story, temperatures up over 100 degrees again and today that heat will be making its way off to the east a little bit, highs well over 100 creeping eastward towards the east coast. this is not good news for firefighters struggling with heat again in colorado. >> thanks, rob. two of washington's veteran lions each turning back primary challenges, 78-year-old orrin hatch won the republican senate primary and defeated dan lodgen quist, hatch is trying for a seventh term in the senate. in new york, charlie rangel also celebrating a primary victory this morning. he held off opponents to keep the dream of a 22nd term of congress in alive. it was thought the 82-year-old's career might be over because of a censure by house colleagues but charlie rangel made it. queen elizabeth has shaken the hand of former ira commander mcguinness, the queen's cousin was killed in an irish republican army attack. that handshake is the latest step in the road to peace and it is history right there. hollywood's finest paying tribute to the great nora ephron, she died after a battle of leukemia, she was dominated three times for an oscar. >> i love you get cold when it's 71 degrees out and it takes you an hour and a half to order a sandwich and you get a crinkle above your nose when you're look at me like i'm nuts. i can still smell your perfume on my clothes and i love you're the last person i want to talk to -- >> crystal released a statement, she was a brilliant writer and humorist, being her harry to meg's sally will always have a special place in my heart. i was lucky to get to say her words. she was 71, a brilliant writer. >> yes, she was. christine, thank you. supreme court is set to rule on the president's health care law tomorrow and the house is holding a contempt of congress vote against eric holder as these issues reach a boiling point, the president and mitt romney are statistically in a dead heat. the president leading mitt romney by three points, 47 to 43%. the lead within the margin of error. it's essentially unchanged from a poll back in may. maryland's democratic congressman chris van hollen joins us this morning. thanks for talking with us. >> great to be with you. >> thank you very much. a lot of conversation this week has been on what the supreme court ruled on, which was immigration. when i was talking to carlos gutierrez, his consistent message was forget about mitt romney, let's talk about what obama has done or hasn't done maybe is a better way of doing it. doesn't he have a point, immigration reform, there was an opportunity, was not done. when you look at the record number of people being deported, that's something the president has done. isn't this on immigration kind of a mixed bag for the president snd. >> i don't think so, soledad. the president did say he was going to make sure he enforced the law with respect to people here illegally. he did that. but he also said he was going to push very hard to make sure that the dreamers, young people who were brought here of no fault of their own, have an opportunity of a good life here in the united states and can contribute to our country as they want to do. the president tried to do that as you know. we were able to pass a dream act out of the house of representatives when the democrats were the majority. it was blocked by republicans in the united states senate. so the president made an effort on the dream act and as you know, if we can't get the dream act through congress, it's going to be very difficult to get something more comprehensive through the congress. so to hear our republican colleagues complain that the president hasn't put forward a total comprehensive plan when republicans wouldn't support the dream act, i think raises real questions of credibility on the republican side. >> i'm not sure it's exactly a complaint as much as it is it could have been done and wasn't done. here's what carlos gutierrez told me yesterday. >> i see this as one big mess throughout the country and the reason that we're in this mess is because the president has failed to provide leadership. what's going to happen now, soledad, it's going to get worse because we don't have that leadership. all states are going to start splintering and keep on splintering the country into different immigration laws when what we should have is leadership to have one national immigration policy which is exactly what governor romney wants to do. >> you're specifically talking about the dream act but what he's talking about, there was an opportunity early on and it was not done. could have been done and wasn't done. >> well, soledad, it could not have been done. and the point is, if you couldn't get the dream act passed, if you couldn't even pass a bill that said for those students who were graduating from our high schools from those individuals who have served in our military, for them we're going to make sure that they are not deported. they were brought here through no fault. if you can't get that passed, republicans in the senate, how can you talk about doing comprehensive immigration reform? it's interesting to hear mitt romney on the campaign trail, we know what his policy was, clearly stated in the primary, self-deportation, make life absolutely miserable for everybody here, including the dreamers, including these kids. so they'll self-deport. that has been the republican solution. again, if you can't get republicans to agree on the dream act, it is just nonsense to talk about republicans agreeing to comprehensive immigration reform -- >> there was a point when the democrats controlled both houses, right? i think there was a missed opportunity. i get you're talking about the dream act and you're absolutely right about that. if you go back the first year and the window in which there was an opportunity and the president decided instead to focus on something else. >> soledad, he did focus on the economy, there's no doubt about that. when the president was sworn in, the economy was falling through the floor as you know, we were losing over 800,000 jobs every month. the first order of business was to pass the recovery bill, which the nonpartisan congressional budget office has said saved up to 3 million jobs in 2010 and has helped bolster a very fragile economy. we need to keep working. i don't think there's any surprise that the president was focused on jobs and the economy as he should be. what i'm saying with respect to the dream act, the last time the democrats were in control of the house and the senate, we did pass the dream act out of the house and a republican filibuster in the senate blocked it. we had a majority of votes in the united states senate but republicans used the obstructionist tactics as they've done with issue on jobs with the issues on a whole range of other important matters to the american people, they use their ability to block and obstruct things in the senate to block the dream act. yes, when the democrats were in the majority, we did pass the dream act out of the house. it was blocked in the senate. just like mitch mckoj, the current senate leader helped block the mccain/kennedy presencive bill and back then the parties were able to get together and president bush was supportive of that effort. that bill too was ultimately blocked by republicans in the senate. so they talk a great game, soledad but the reality is when it comes to doing the work of putting something together, all you have is poisonous rhetoric. >> let's talk about health care, going to be ruled on by the supreme court most likely tomorrow. what if the law is struck down as unconstitutional. what happens? what's plan b? >> first of all, we'll now know within 24 hours what the supreme court will rule and everybody is obviously anxiously anticipating that. i'm quite confident that the court will not strike down the whole bill. and -- >> what if they do? >> well, i don't think they will. i think we can wait and see. the big issue will be if they were to somehow strike down a portion of it, and again, i think there's a better than 50% chance they will not strike down a portion that they will uphold it all, the issue then will be the fact that our republican colleagues have said their first order of business will be to try to repeal legislatively the remainder, things that are left, things that would probably be like the provisions that allow kids to remain on their parents insurance policies until they are 26. make sure that we close the prescription drug doughnut hole soz seniors don't have to pay exorbitant amounts. if the court does not strike those provisions down, that they will move rapidly to knock them all out. in that scenario, we would be working hard to protect the elements that remain. i want to stress the fact that like the top lawyer during the reagan administration, the solicitor general of the reagan administration has said in his view that the entire law is constitutional under the congressional powers of the commerce clause and i agree. >> we will know tomorrow, won't we? >> we will know. >> chris van hollen, nice to see you sir. appreciate it. we'll talk to republican senator ron johnson, he'll join us live. ahead this morning, from the boom of the housing bubble to a complete bust, the biggest city yet on the verge of bankruptcy. and fear it could invite chaos on the street. quiet please, a plan to silence the grunting women on the tennis court. all, none or some, going to continue to talk about the questions 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house gop leaders will discuss whether to let student loan interest rates double or to extend the current rate cut. the senate says it already has an agreement. congress has until sunday to act. stockton california expected to file bankruptcy at any moment, becoming the largest city in u.s. history to file chapter 9. the city is $700 million in debt. mediation with its creditors failed late last night. u.s. stock futures are flat right now, we're watching for news from the european summit meeting in brussels, also, durable goods orders will give us a fresh look at the health of the american economy. soledad? >> christine, thanks very much. tomorrow the supreme court will rule on president obama's health care law, they could uphold or strike down the entire law or only rule or certain provisions. the most con tept shouse part is the individual mandate that would require all americans to have insurance or face a penalty. dr. sanjay gupta a correspondent and worked in the white house during the clinton administration, thanks for being here in person. can a law survive if they strike down the individual mandate, which is the section everybody is looking at and most focused on? >> both republicans and democrats say it can survive. there's 450 other provisions. we're obviously paying attention to this one. from a pragmatic sense, it's a little bit hard to see how that works. part of it is the pragmatic, you bring more money with the mandate because more people are forced to buy health care insurance and that money was supposed to offset the cost for people who were chronically ill or going to the hospital for some sort of illness. i don't know how it works for the hospitals, the states that have to do it, it's going to be hard. >> if in fact they strike down the individual mandate, they might also have to strike down the provision about preexisting conditions, that's very expensive and also the provision that looks at funding for elderly people, also very expensive, right? they are connected? >> they are connected because it's really chasing the money. i've asked a lot of people about that very thing, can you have the preexisting nondiscriminatory clause without the mandate. both people say, yeah, we would like to keep that. that's something that popular, we don't want to get rid of that regardless of the mandate. >> the issue is, there's also precedent for this which a lot of people don't realize, not at the federal level but state level, since the 1990s, we have a map to show how many states have tried some sort of health care reform. let me zero in on kentucky and tell you in 1994, exactly what you just described happened in kentucky. you cannot discriminate on people based on preexisting conditions and there was no mandate. what they found happened as you might expect was that everybody's premiums went up. people in kentucky who have nothing to do with this, i'm sured and not paying attention to the whole law, they saw the premiums go up by 40%, again to help pay for people who are getting their insurance without discrimination. >> that's kind of metaphor for health care, isn't it? if you have a bunch of people, what's the number of people who are without insurance? >> it varies but anywhere up to 50 million. >> 50 million people without insurance, those who have health insurance, were underwriting them because at some point they show up in the system, usually in an emergency room. >> you can put a price tag on that. $56 billion they say in uncompensated care, outrageous hospital costs and higher premiums, all of that. >> if, this is a big hypothetical, the individual mandate is thrown out. >> i sit around in the locker room at the hospital and this is what we talk about. this is kind of crazy. the reality in the immediate impact there won't be much, a lot of the health care law has not been implemented. i don't think we'll see a lot of change. there will be an election between now and when most was supposed to be implemented. i talked to folks doing health care for governor romney, they say, we want to keep that nondiscriminatory clause in. we would increase competition for insurance purchase across state lines. but in the immediate, next year or two, i don't think we would notice much of a change. dr. sanjay gupta, we'll now soon. >> tomorrow. >> always great to see you, appreciate it. >> still ahead, loud mouthed tennis players be warned. women's tennis has a new plan to silence those who grunt on the court. don't miss our get real up next. here's our starting point team walking in, margaret hoover and will cain. here's will's playlist. 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